A question about a brand Pro Trenazine (Forum rules says that's allowed, right?)

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Hey everybody
Just jumped into this discussion from a recent fascination with steroids. I have a friend that is selling "legal steroids" online and making a killing and I just wanted to know if what he is offering is indeed legal in the US, as well as safe for me.

The product is called Pro Trenazine.
Here is a description.

This is a prohormone to the veterinary drug and black-market bodybuilding steroid trenbolone. Unlike previous “tren” prohormones, this one actually converts in the body to trenbolone. Previous “tren” PHs converted to the structurally similar – but markedly weaker – steroid dienolone.

Structure: This prohormone has the same three conjugated double bonds as trenbolone, and differs from it only in that this hormone has a 17-ketone, where trenbolone has a 17b-hydroxy function. In the body this ketone will be readily hydrolysed by 17b-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1 (17b-HSD1) into the active form, trenbolone.

Here is a link.
https://helicapharm.com/pro-trenazine-gain-explosive-strength/


Thoughts?
 
This is what I got from a site selling Pro-Hormones: read into that what you will.. lol :D

Dymethazine (aka mebolazine) was brought to market by iForce Nutrition in 2009, however, despite Dymethazine being 'legal' it was largely taken off the market due to recent FDA activities. Despite this, clones of the original Dymethazine have already been brought to the market. Dymethazine and DZine are interchangeable featuring the same compound (2,17-dimethyl-5-androstan-17-ol-3,3-one-azine)

Dymethazine is an azine, two superdrol molecules attached to each other by a nitrogen atom. Stomach acid separates the two superdrol molecules from each other, after which they make their way to the androgen receptors. Dymethazine is also known as mebalozine.

Dymethazine is nearly identical to Superdrol, except it's two (as opposed to one) superdrol molecules attached to each other. Your body's stomach acid separates these two molecules prior to absorption, so it becomes a single molecule with two potential pathways. Despite this difference, Superdrol remains the more powerful compound.

The one advantage Dymethazine has over Superdrol is the lower likelihood/greater managability of side effects. Dymethazine is an incredibly potent compound and carries the same risks as any other powerful anabolic steroid or pro-hormone.

In a study, patients were administered Dymethazine for 45+ days. Liver values did not change for 50% of patients, while the other 50% noticed only modest to moderate increases in liver values. So, while Dymethazine can increase liver values, it is not as harsh as the current strong methyls currently available.

Dymethazine features 0% ability to aromatize and expresses an extremely weak androgenic activity. This means Dymethazine will produce gain with little to no liver impact and will cause no estrogen related side effects.

I used to think if things sound too good they generally are.... I'm not really up on the Pro-Hormone thing so will reserve judgement....

Here's an interesting link from Google Scholar: http://scholar.google.co.nz/scholar...drostan-3-one-azine&btnG=&as_sdt=1,5&as_sdtp=
 
Thanks for the reply. Does anybody have any first hand experience with this product or a similarly structure product?

Also, should I talk to my doctor before using this?
What should I ask him?
Will his judgment be reserved because they are "steroids"?
 
I think an endocrinologist will help you. Tren is an amazing compound itself, if used correctly. But idk about this trenazine. I heard of trenazone, but never heard of trenazine. All these PHs are quite similar.
My advice is just to seek an endocrinologist.
 
PHs interest me to a degree, though getting them in the uk is a ballsack, normally a 6 week delivery on them.
I would only ever use them with a test base though none of this pro hormone cycle nonsense bullshit... Use them for their specific traits e.g sdrol to lean bulk the end of a test cycle...
People using PH thinking their fine because their legal are just retarded. I disagree with the name “pro hormone”, it gives a biased view that these compounds are safe and the impression that they are not anabolic steroids when in reality the opposite is true.
 
Trenazine, Trenazone, Trenavar, or whatever brand name of the Trenbolone prohormone is shit. It's a waste. You need a crazy amount to actually get worthwhile results and it will only end up shutting down your libido, making you impotent, and possibly giving you progesterone induced gyno.

It's a waste. Prohormones suck. Designer steroids are better but they need to be used with Test as a base to be safe.
 
pro hormones are metabolized by the liver or broke down in the stomach into true anabolics. designer steroids are Anabolic in and of themselves from my understanding. the terms are used interchangeably but in reality they are different.
 
not necessarily all are 17aa but a lot are. prohormones are usually formulated to operate in a grey area to introduce illegal oral steroids into a legal market. before being processed by the body, they aren't as effective as they are after being processed. that's what I gained from reading on various orals. like the various "tren" Ph orals are supposed to be processed by the body forming trenbolone. then you got superdrol which is active on its own.
 
Ahh right I see, ill need to research up on how that works myself to get a full understanding though. I'm assuming it degrades from 1 drug into another in the same way some RCs get around drug laws e.g. Dimethyl tramadol (I think that's what the tramadol varient was anyway, on phone and can't look it up). Gets broken down into tramdol I'm assuming that's how this also works?
 
nolys said:
I thought pro hormones were designer steroids?
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Some prohormones are designer steroids marketed as "prohormones". They don't market Epistane for example as a "designer steroid" because people would be turned off and it would attract attention of the FDA and DEA.
 
-Guido- said:
Some prohormones are designer steroids marketed as "prohormones". They don't market Epistane for example as a "designer steroid" because people would be turned off and it would attract attention of the FDA and DEA.
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I unserstand this, it gets around FDA regulation and makes n3Wb$ more likely to use thinking its not a steroid...
But, is a prohormone and a designer steroid the same thing? Or 2 different things which people get the names mixed up or market incorrectly?
 
nolys said:
I unserstand this, it gets around FDA regulation and makes n3Wb$ more likely to use thinking its not a steroid...
But, is a prohormone and a designer steroid the same thing? Or 2 different things which people get the names mixed up or market incorrectly?
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A prohormone is a compound that metabolizes to a target steroid. A designer steroid is typically a 17a oral steroid that needs no conversion. Designer steroids are marketed as prohormones. Many a dumb faggot mix up the two.
 
supplements here in the US don't have to be FDA approved or even divulge ingredients from what I remember. also prohormone I believe allows it to function in the grey area of legality where "steroid" may bring it under fire more quickly.
 
nolys said:
Well why market sdrol as a pro hormone when its actually a 17aa? Isn't there some sort of law against mislabeling supplements?
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Because if they marketed it as a 17aa designer steroid people would think it's poison. Supplements aren't FDA approved so they aren't regulated.

I could capsule rice powder, creatine, and B12 and sell it in a 90 count bottle for $75.00 and call it RP-12. On the bottle I could say it's a Anabolic Androgenic proprietary blend that causes release of HGH and IGF-1 along with a 1000% increase in Testosterone levels. And I could have Ronnie Coleman market it for me and wouldn't have to worry about any bullshit from the FDA for my claims and obvious mislabeling.

Shit I could take MPA (Methaniopropamine), an analog of Methamphetamine, totally legal here in the U.S. and market it as a thermogenic fat-loss agent called Super-Shred, when it's actually a research chemical used as a recreational stimulant by some people.

All of that shit can be done because of the fact those supplements aren't FDA Approved. They escape the scrutiny and regulations of that organization.
 
-Guido- said:
Because if they marketed it as a 17aa designer steroid people would think it's poison. Supplements aren't FDA approved so they aren't regulated.

I could capsule rice powder, creatine, and B12 and sell it in a 90 count bottle for $75.00 and call it RP-12. On the bottle I could say it's a Anabolic Androgenic proprietary blend that causes release of HGH and IGF-1 along with a 1000% increase in Testosterone levels. And I could have Ronnie Coleman market it for me and wouldn't have to worry about any bullshit from the FDA for my claims and obvious mislabeling.

Shit I could take MPA (Methaniopropamine), an analog of Methamphetamine, totally legal here in the U.S. and market it as a thermogenic fat-loss agent called Super-Shred, when it's actually a research chemical used as a recreational stimulant by some people.

All of that shit can be done because of the fact those supplements aren't FDA Approved. They escape the scrutiny and regulations of that organization.
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Please write more on the board. Questions to probe you. Surely, there are some more stickies that could be dropped -- You could just called it "Bullshit in Bodybuilding"
 
I really need to. It's sometimes hard to post about bodybuilding when you are working, training, eating, and sleeping all the time. I post a great deal on a bodybuilding board for steroid users, pro bodybuilders, and amateur bodybuilders that blast and cruise. I do my best to funnel a lot of information from there to here, although some of the information doesn't pertain to a lot of you guys because you just started out.

I would love to go deeper into the rabbit hole with bodybuilding information but due to the fact a lot of fucking idiots browse this forum, and this place fest guys under twenty who get high all the time or are addicted to some narcotic or stimulant, I'm leery on teaching people advanced stuff; Blasting and cruising, how to run Tren for a year, combining ephedrine/t3/clen/yohimbe, diuretic usage, 1+ gram weekly doses of Equipoise and self blood letting, how to suspend raws in USP oil with BB and BA, running orals for longer than recommended, 100mg+ Epistane doses, using orals like M1T/M4HN/Methyldienolone/Halotestin/Chequedrops....

It would be great to share EVERYTHING I know and have learned am still learning with everyone here who consider bodybuilding and hormone use there drug of choice; But the fucking idiots getting high at the clubs, raves, bar, or even at home constantly... If they used the information they would end up dead, in the hospital, on blood pressure medication, with liver failure, jaundice, quality of life issues stemming from improper hormone use, and other complications. Steroids and drugs don't mix. Every single steroid related death (the very small handful) always had some kind of illegal narcotic, abusable prescription, or some illegal recreational stimulant involved.

I will have to think this over today while I am at work.
 
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