anavar end of cycle

If you're competing in a drug-tested show, you could use them to "stay on gear" for as long as possible before the show. I don't see why you would use anavar if you're not tested. Just stick to your other stuff.
 
nolys said:
Just wondering do you guys think 100 10mg vars would be any use or worth buying for the end of a cycle and if so, the best way to use them?
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No. It would be waste of money. Anavar is only worth it if you are a woman or can afford at least 100mg ED for 8 weeks, and even then you got to have lean enough body. I wouldn't call it a "bodybuilding" steroid, it's a "bodypolishing" steroid. You are better off spending your money on other steroids.
 
Fair enough thanks for the replys, I'm just really looking for an oral that will supply some decent lean gains and solidify what I've gained from this cycle. Was thinking m-sten or sdrol but couldn't aquire them, then my source suggested anavar...

Any other ideas?

Edit - he suggested winstrol for a dry lean bulk I suppose so he doesn't really know what he's talking about... + I can't take winstrol.

In case anyones interested in the injury I had at the start of my cycle, I seen a physio who said blunt trauma caused my shoulder to pop out years ago which has damaged cartilage, dropped my shoulder blade down 3cm compared to the other side. On top of that my chest is overdeveloped compared to my back causing the front of my shoulder joint to wedge down on the tendons, muscle and cartilage further.
I get an mri in 8-10 weeks to see if I need surgery on the cartilage, start pyhsiotherapy in 8 weeks, and in the meantime I've been told to train my chest and back to a 1:2 ratio.
 
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nolys said:
Fair enough thanks for the replys, I'm just really looking for an oral that will supply some decent lean gains and solidify what I've gained from this cycle. Was thinking m-sten or sdrol but couldn't aquire them, then my source suggested anavar...

Any other ideas?

Edit - he suggested winstrol for a dry lean bulk I suppose so he doesn't really know what he's talking about... + I can't take winstrol.

In case anyones interested in the injury I had at the start of my cycle, I seen a physio who said blunt trauma caused my shoulder to pop out years ago which has damaged cartilage, dropped my shoulder blade down 3cm compared to the other side. On top of that my chest is overdeveloped compared to my back causing the front of my shoulder joint to wedge down on the tendons, muscle and cartilage further.
I get an mri in 8-10 weeks to see if I need surgery on the cartilage, start pyhsiotherapy in 8 weeks, and in the meantime I've been told to train my chest and back to a 1:2 ratio.
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Did I not mention you were over emphasising your chest a few weeks back nolys...???? lol


To answer your original post:

I think your trying to apply a contest body-building pharmacological methodology to your cycles too soon... (I'm unsure but is this your first proper cycle that has not turned out to be bunk gear)?
Your not a pre-contest body-builder you shouldn't be looking at orals, especially at the end of cycle approaching PCT.. Why spike estrogen just before your trying to get rid of it..?

In defence of your mate/supplier, Winstrol/Anavar is recommended end of cycle prior to a competition.. ONLY Your not approaching a comp, your gonna be on PCT soon, big difference.....
 
Genetic Freak said:
Did I not mention you were over emphasising your chest a few weeks back nolys...???? lol


To answer your original post:

I think your trying to apply a contest body-building pharmacological methodology to your cycles too soon... (I'm unsure but is this your first proper cycle that has not turned out to be bunk gear)?
Your not a pre-contest body-builder you shouldn't be looking at orals, especially at the end of cycle approaching PCT.. Why spike estrogen just before your trying to get rid of it..?

In defence of your mate/supplier, Winstrol/Anavar is recommended end of cycle prior to a competition.. ONLY Your not approaching a comp, your gonna be on PCT soon, big difference.....
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About the chest... Yeah I overtrain it, ever since I was about 16 I have been fixated on having a higher max bench press than everyone around me, I'm only maxing at 305 or so at the moment I want that to be at 315 by end cycle. I'm gonna do what my physio says I've been stupid to this point overtraining chest...

Yeah its first proper cycle but I fucking love it, this is my new lifestyle, I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear, I feel healthier, bigger, stronger, confidence is through the roof.
I was contemplating sdrol or m-sten because of the lack of aromatisation to estro, same with anavar which I knew to be very mild on the hpta (with some people even using to bridge to pct).
You threw me off the idea of using npp so I was going to run an oral with a low or no estro conversion. Fission mailed there though I can't get anything decent lol. Dbol winny or anavar are my only choices and none fit the goal...

I just want to make the most of what I can whilst I'm on before I have a 6 month wait for another cycle...
 
nolys said:
About the chest... Yeah I overtrain it, ever since I was about 16 I have been fixated on having a higher max bench press than everyone around me, I'm only maxing at 305 or so at the moment I want that to be at 315 by end cycle. I'm gonna do what my physio says I've been stupid to this point overtraining chest...

Yeah its first proper cycle but I fucking love it, this is my new lifestyle, I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear, I feel healthier, bigger, stronger, confidence is through the roof.
I was contemplating sdrol or m-sten because of the lack of aromatisation to estro, same with anavar which I knew to be very mild on the hpta (with some people even using to bridge to pct).
You threw me off the idea of using npp so I was going to run an oral with a low or no estro conversion. Fission mailed there though I can't get anything decent lol. Dbol winny or anavar are my only choices and none fit the goal...

I just want to make the most of what I can whilst I'm on before I have a 6 month wait for another cycle...
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People who use Anavar to bridge to PCT are fucking idiot juice heads. The only time you bridge shit is if you blast and cruise.

True, but you not anywhere close to being a bodybuilder in precontest shape so orals at the end of a cycle is pointless. Run them at the start instead of shutting yourself down hard right before PCT. Genetic Freak makes a good point, dont apply a contest body-building pharmacological methodology to your cycles too soon. It's a waste in the early stages.

Considering your injury, you really shouldn't even be on gear or working your upper body.
 
-Guido- said:
People who use Anavar to bridge to PCT are fucking idiot juice heads. The only time you bridge shit is if you blast and cruise.

True, but you not anywhere close to being a bodybuilder in precontest shape so orals at the end of a cycle is pointless. Run them at the start instead of shutting yourself down hard right before PCT. Genetic Freak makes a good point, dont apply a contest body-building pharmacological methodology to your cycles too soon. It's a waste in the early stages.

Considering your injury, you really shouldn't even be on gear or working your upper body.
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You suggested m-sten to me a few times in previous threads, imo I think adding an oral like sdrol or msten would cause less shutdown that using deca like a lot choose to go for on a first cycle? I do understand where you are coming from though I've decided against it after GFs post. It does make sense.

My physio knows I'm on gear and has no problem with it, he said as long as I stayed away from things such as stanzolol I should be fine. He suggested training back:chest on a 2:1 ratio to rebalance the joint in the meantime but said to keep lifting he had no problem with it. My therapy (unless I need surgery for the cartilige) will involve heavy lifting exersizes anyway to restore the strength in my back. Otherwise I would never regain balance
 
nolys said:
About the chest... Yeah I overtrain it, ever since I was about 16 I have been fixated on having a higher max bench press than everyone around me, I'm only maxing at 305 or so at the moment I want that to be at 315 by end cycle. I'm gonna do what my physio says I've been stupid to this point overtraining chest...

Yeah its first proper cycle but I fucking love it, this is my new lifestyle, I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear, I feel healthier, bigger, stronger, confidence is through the roof.
I was contemplating sdrol or m-sten because of the lack of aromatisation to estro, same with anavar which I knew to be very mild on the hpta (with some people even using to bridge to pct).
You threw me off the idea of using npp so I was going to run an oral with a low or no estro conversion. Fission mailed there though I can't get anything decent lol. Dbol winny or anavar are my only choices and none fit the goal...

I just want to make the most of what I can whilst I'm on before I have a 6 month wait for another cycle...
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I want that to be at 315 by end cycle

Forget it for now nolys, it doesn't matter, lifting correctly acquiring correct symmetry and proportion does... The sooner you build-up your upper back, scapula and, rear delts the stronger your chest will be anyway..!!! (did you not know this)..??

I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear,

Why do you think we're all on nolys..? lol Its difficult, but you have to show restraint at this point, banging in twice the compounds for twice the gains doesn't work.. Unless your a Pro with genetics most of us just don't have..... The best thing you can do is stick on 500mg Test-E (or less) for the next few cycles, and spend your money on FOOD, not orals......
 
fission mailed? did you really just make a mgs 2 reference? :P
I have a fucked up shoulder from an injury years ago. I was making good gains on bench and then boom, intense sharp pain years ago. hasn't been right sense. be careful and speedy recovery man.
 
Genetic Freak said:
I want that to be at 315 by end cycle

Forget it for now nolys, it doesn't matter, lifting correctly acquiring correct symmetry and proportion does... The sooner you build-up your upper back, scapula and, rear delts the stronger your chest will be anyway..!!! (did you not know this)..??

I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear,

Why do you think we're all on nolys..? lol Its difficult, but you have to show restraint at this point, banging in twice the compounds for twice the gains doesn't work.. Unless your a Pro with genetics most of us just don't have..... The best thing you can do is stick on 500mg Test-E (or less) for the next few cycles, and spend your money on FOOD, not orals......
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At this point I'm more concerned about strength gains, I've packed on 30lbs of body weight since the start of my cycle, just want that last press... Though I agree I'm going to just focus on my injury now, give my connective tissue a rest, thinking about it, I don't know how anything hasn't ripped or torn yet, I've been overloading my muscles, especially chest every week. I know my joints can keep up with the gains...
Well next cycle I'm going to bump to 600mg test I don't see an extra 100mg as too much of a problem, maybe with a 4 week prop kickstart. I say this now, but I'm sure my young impatient self will get to a point 6 months down the line and decide to throw in deca or eq... I'm sure I will post up a thread outlining my cycle and I hope there are still people here to give me advice.

My idiot friend got fake gear a few months ago so he's decided to do 14 weeks of
1-6 50mg dbol
1-14 t400 @ 800mg
1-14 deca @ 500mg

Serotonin101 said:
fission mailed? did you really just make a mgs 2 reference? :P
I have a fucked up shoulder from an injury years ago. I was making good gains on bench and then boom, intense sharp pain years ago. hasn't been right sense. be careful and speedy recovery man.
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Yes I did just make a mgs 2 referance I'm glad somebody realised lol...
Have you been to a physio to get it checked up mate? My injury has slowly eased off but the physio said there is still a fair amount of internal damage wether I can feel it or not.

Come to think of it, I might have a legit reason to use deca next time round ;) lol
 
I had it looked at by a sports physician. said something about overtraining and damaging the rotator cuff and some other tissues inside. luckily it was my right shoulder as I write and beat off left handed. that was about 5 years ago but I still feel the strength of my connective tissues and muscles there strengthen more slowly compared to my left side or maybe I need to check my symmetry on my bench more... hmmm.

colonel cambell: I hear it's amazing when the famous purple stuffed worm in flap-jaw space with the tuning fork does a raw blink on Hara-Kiri Rock. I need scissors! 61!
 
Yep same story here mate rotar cuff damage...

Actually, I am in really bad shape
financially. I pay money to my ex-wife as part of
our divorce settlement, among other bills... I just
had no choice but to make you pay for lunch the
other day. I'm really sorry.
 
nolys said:
You suggested m-sten to me a few times in previous threads, imo I think adding an oral like sdrol or msten would cause less shutdown that using deca like a lot choose to go for on a first cycle? I do understand where you are coming from though I've decided against it after GFs post. It does make sense.

My physio knows I'm on gear and has no problem with it, he said as long as I stayed away from things such as stanzolol I should be fine. He suggested training back:chest on a 2:1 ratio to rebalance the joint in the meantime but said to keep lifting he had no problem with it. My therapy (unless I need surgery for the cartilige) will involve heavy lifting exersizes anyway to restore the strength in my back. Otherwise I would never regain balance
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Oh wow. If your doctor is cool with it and giving you advice then do continue bro. I had clue you were seeing someone.
 
Genetic Freak said:
I want that to be at 315 by end cycle

Forget it for now nolys, it doesn't matter, lifting correctly acquiring correct symmetry and proportion does... The sooner you build-up your upper back, scapula and, rear delts the stronger your chest will be anyway..!!! (did you not know this)..??

I will live like this until the day I die. Life is so much better on gear,

Why do you think we're all on nolys..? lol Its difficult, but you have to show restraint at this point, banging in twice the compounds for twice the gains doesn't work.. Unless your a Pro with genetics most of us just don't have..... The best thing you can do is stick on 500mg Test-E (or less) for the next few cycles, and spend your money on FOOD, not orals......
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Aye. I blast and crusie but I made the mistake a while back of taking a shitload of orals and wasn't pleased with the results. More compounds does not mean more gains at an early level. Pick one or two orals you like to use at different times, a favorite ester of Test, and after one or two cycles, another injectable. Keep it simple.
 
-Guido- said:
Oh wow. If your doctor is cool with it and giving you advice then do continue bro. I had clue you were seeing someone.
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This has a tone of sarcasm to it but I don't think it is sarcasm or is it? Lol

-Guido- said:
Aye. I blast and crusie but I made the mistake a while back of taking a shitload of orals and wasn't pleased with the results. More compounds does not mean more gains at an early level. Pick one or two orals you like to use at different times, a favorite ester of Test, and after one or two cycles, another injectable. Keep it simple.
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One or 2 orals and 1 injectable? That's what I was doing this cycle - dbol, test, m-sten?
 
you'd probably get better results running 25mg for however long it lasts along with your other compounds
 
All I was trying to say is that var works slowly so if you're limited by the amount you have you're better of running a lower dose for a longer time. On it's own low doses of var don't do much, but combined with other compounds var is great. This is all assuming you have real properly dosed var since.
 
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