Non XR Adderall/Amphetamine Salts: snorting

[Stacibar98]

Forgive me if this has been asked before.. I've seen lots of posts for Adderall XR but none for non-XR that answers my question.

I take Adderall (Non-XR) (generic, amphetamine salts) for ADHD. My Rx is for 20mg 3x/day, but I only take it 2x/day, which leaves me 90 extra 20mg pills for each 90 day refill. I like to crush the extras into a fine powder and snort it during all night study sessions, which works beautifully. Once it's in powdered form tho, I can no longer gauge how many mg's I'm ingesting and this concerns me somewhat. I've not had any negative side effects (other than shitting black water) when I do this but I would like to be safe here. Any advice on safe Adderall (not XR) use will be appreciated. And if there is a more pleasant word to use than "snorting" I would like to know that as well. Thank you.

 

[hatrix]

Well I firstly recommend not snorting it. Plugging is a much better option as for as BA goes.

Second, make sure to eat something, regardless of how much you feel you can't eat anything. Take a multivitamin, drink plenty of fluids. And finally, make sure to get some rest. It's essential.

Third, why crush all of them at once ? Just crush as needed so you know what you're ingesting.

 

[Stacibar98]

I had not thought about crushing them in increments, you make a good point. Re: snorting vs. plugging, I don't have an understanding of the BA of amphetamine salts, at all, so if there is a thread that you can point me to that explains it, I'd be grateful. Snorting just seems faster and easier to do at my desk, rather than running off to the bathroom every time I want/need another bump.

 

[hatrix]

Yea I understand the whole I can snort it faster than I can plug it, but with amphetamines it truly is worth it. There's to many binders in both IR and XR (more so XR) for intranasal to really be efficient. The binders just coat your nose, leaving no room for the actual Adderall to absorb into your mucus membranes. Then you're pretty much getting it all from the drip, which is the same as taking it orally.

I believe BAs are around as follows (couldn't find a specific thread, dead links...):

Oral: 75%

Nasal: 75%

Rectal: 95-99%

IV: 100%

Rectal is seriously a very effecient way of dosing dextroamphetamine (which makes up 75% of Adderall).

Bioavailability means how much of the actual drug is absorbed into the bloodstream. Obviously IV will always be 100%.

If you can get over using an oral syringe and plugging with it, it's well worth the much quicker onset. It hits harder and last pretty much just as long as oral IMO. Onset is literally ~15 minutes, sometimes less. Preparing a solution for plugging becomes easy and routine once you do it a couple times. I could prepare an Adderall solution for plugging in like 2-3 minutes easy. Then I'm already coming up 15 minutes later.

 

[laCster]

Lmfao when I was in highschool, I tried to crush the beads and snort them . I ended up with fucking beads in my nose lolol. It was a waste...

Crush up your addy beads, add water, and plug

 

[bronson]

^ Despite your nasally clogged misfortune, the OP is asking about the safest way to get the most out of instant release Adderall, not XR.

 

[Venrak]

And if there is a more pleasant word to use than "snorting" I would like to know that as well. Thank you.

insufflation /in·suf·fla·tion/ (-sah-fla´shun)
1. the act of blowing a powder, vapor, or gas into a body cavity.
2. finely powdered or liquid drugs carried into the respiratory passages by such devices as aerosols.

 

[Stacibar98]

^ Despite your nasally clogged misfortune, the OP is asking about the safest way to get the most out of instant release Adderall, not XR.

Correct. Thank you. Posts so far have (for the most part) been very helpful.

Ok I'm willing to try the plugging. Just need to find instructions on making the solution and I'll be set. By the way, regardless of administration method (oral, plugging, insufflation (thanks, Venrak)) is there a max dose of amphetamine salts I should be aware of, in a 24 hour period for example not to exceed a certain amount?

 

[bronson]

Check out: Official Rectal Admin./Plugging Thread
--> That should have sufficient reading to get you stated with the process safely.

As to a maximum dose, I'll leave that to someone with more stimulant experience than myself to answer. Really though, general advice says that the lowest dose you can take to achieve the desired effects is better than needlessly taking more. Tolerance rises quickly enough as is.

 

[hatrix]

Check out: Official Rectal Admin./Plugging Thread
--> That should have sufficient reading to get you stated with the process safely.

As to a maximum dose, I'll leave that to someone with more stimulant experience than myself to answer. Really though, general advice says that the lowest dose you can take to achieve the desired effects is better than needlessly taking more. Tolerance rises quickly enough as is.

Exactly as bronson said. The lowest dose you can get away with, stick to it for as long as you can. I'm serious. Increasing your dose to get a little higher will just end up wrecking your tolerance.

Plugging is pretty simple once you do it once or twice. That thread should give you all the info you need though. Just crush up your Adderall, add 2-4ml of water (I use a 5ml oral syringe, and usually use about 2-3ml), stir the solution a little bit. There's always going to be binders/fillers in the solution that don't dissolve. With IR Adderall your solution will be orange colored (at least with the 20mg IRs I get). Then lay on your side, raise knees towards your chest and plug. You don't need to lay there for very long. Seriously like 15-30 seconds and you're fine getting up and doing whatever. It's not going to leak out.

As far as a max in a 24 hour period... Honestly I only recommend dosing once, but that's just me. Redosing on adderall only seems to lengthen the duration and increase the unpleasant side effects. You most likely won't get anymore euphoria like when initially dosed, at least not near the same amount.

I've seen posts of people dosing over 200mgs before. Sounds insane to me. I have anxiety and adderall gives it to me pretty bad on the comedown sometimes (not all the time, rather random actually), and I couldn't even imagine taking anything above 40mg at once.

 

[Stacibar98]

Very helpful, thank you. Re: multiple dosing, I will have to see how long the effects last since all nighters typically keep me up for about 36 hours. Thankfully this doesn't happen often, about once a month unless it's around finals. My reasons for plugging aren't for the euphoric effects, altho it is nice when that happens. I'm a utilitarian, I suppose.

Re: dosing over 200mg, I take 40mgs orally every morning to treat actual ADHD. I know for certain I've ingested over 200mg in a 36 hour period for higher stake exams. If you are used to 40mg or less, 200 would seem insane, I agree. 200mg in one dose seems crazy to me, too but I guess people's tolerances differ. I'd be scared of over dosing, which was the whole reason I started this thread.

I'm learning a lot of valuable info guys, thanks. I feel much safer being more informed.
Stacy:D

 

[bronson]

^ Never a problem, that's the whole reason we exist in the first place, reducing harm through increasing knowledge.