Help Needed - Bad Experience and haven't been same since

[Bulldogs1]

Hi, this is kind of a long story but any advice at all would be appreciated:

2 months ago I was taking a diet pilled called Ripped Juice by Betancourt Nutrition as well as smoking marijuana every other day. I went out on a Friday night and drank a bunch of beer. Woke up on Saturday super hungover (typical college occurrence) and took my diet pill and threw in a lip of tobacco in the morning, which I do every so often. About 45 minutes after that I decided to smoke because I was really bored.

Immediately I got hit with this terrible panic attack (which I never get) and haven't been the same since. I started to get milder panic attacks for the next week and a half, and the doctor gave me a prescription for Ativan although I only took it a few times since the panic attacks subsided. During this time I wasn't sleeping, and was having very vivid dreams. Got very bad depression during these first 2 weeks as well.

I thought that maybe I was overtraining in the gym and probably undereating, and all the "activities" between Friday night and Saturday morning set my nervous system over the edge or something. So I took a week off the gym and started having heart palpations at night when I went to bed. A week later I decided to ease back into the gym and the palpations got milder. I am a low testosterone patient so I had my doctor run some labs to check how my levels were doing. My testosterone was slightly lower than it was last time I had it checked on the current medication (HCG), but my cortisol was through the roof (it's usually high but not this much). My doctor stopped the HCG after that, which I'd been taking it for 4 months.

After being back a week at the gym, I still thought it might be overtraining so I took another week off and still didn't help me with my symptoms.

Ever since the initial panic attack, my anxiety's worsened, I still have heart palpations, and I can't use any substance (tobacco, weed,alcohol) without feeling really panicky and anxious. My tolerance for all these things disappeared after that first panic attack. For a few weeks sugary, salty, and large meals were making me panicky as well. My chronic fatigue seems to have come back and I just don't feel the same. I stopped drinking alcohol and caffeine and smoking for a month and it didn't help.

Can anyone offer me any suggestions? Or know what's going on with me? I'm currently going to begin a 2-week break from hard physical activity and see where that takes me.

 

[TCMVegas]

The following footwork would let people possibly give insight.

Ingredients:

N Acetyl Tyrosine

N Acetyl Tyrosine is more bioavailable then tyrosine with a higher absorption rate. This leads to a lower dosage to receive the benefits of L-Tyrosine. Tyrosine is an amino acid required for the production of epinephrine and norepinephrine (adrenal hormones) as well as dopamine.*

N Methyltyramine

Tyramine has been used in fat loss/energy products in the past because of its ability to slow the rate monoamine oxidase (enzymes that metabolize adrenal hormones). It’s methylated counterpart promotes superior adrenal effects.*

Citrus Aurantium

Citrus aurantium has been used for a long time in fat loss products because of its synephrine content which is shown to have lipolytic (fat loss) activity. Citrus aurantium was one of the first original proposed replacements for ephedra because it contained ingredients that were beta agonists and promoted thermogenesis. It contains Tyramine metabolites: N-methyltyramine, octopamine and synephrine.*

Green Coffee Bean (Chlorogenic Acid)

The hype surrounding Green Coffee Bean is really a result of its chlorogenic acid content which is responsible for all the fat loss claims. Chlorogenic acid helps reduce glucose absorption in the body thereby leading your body to tap into its fat stores for fuel.*

Rauwolscine HCl

Rauwolscine targets visceral fat (fat that is stored in the ‘stubborn areas’ ex- buttocks, stomach and waist). It also acts as a central nervous system stimulant with out the side effects normally associated with strong stimulants (ex- no crash or jitters).*

Also, trouble sleeping and panic attacks would be very likely side effects of a stimulant in the first place, not necessarily neurological changes from a bad weed high, which was probably just getting sketched out from stims.

That product seems to be targeted around NE/DA precursors, which will be metabolized to epinepherine and cause side effects. Not to mention the caffeine and MAOI... sounds like a sketchy legal stimulant.

This is probably suited to BDD, not ADD. At the very least, with ADD's unfortunately-lowering standards, you should be telling BLers what chemicals you actually took...

 

[sekio]

add -> bdd

 

[Bulldogs1]

add -> bdd

Got it, thanks. But can anyone offer any suggestions? Maybe something I can take to "reset" me?

I've been taking phosphatidylserine ever since but hasn't been effective either.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

What you can do is continue to exercise, eat healthfully, don't take drugs, meditate (MBSR, this is probably the most useful), and hope for the best. If you're religious I recommend getting at least mildly involved. Get a therapist to help you conquer yourself when you're feeling overwhelmed. If you must, see a psychiatrist. It may take weeks or months to feel better, and if you don't feel better whilst doing all of these things in that time-span, then see a psychiatrist. I can tell you're suffering, and will do my utmost to help.

 

[Bulldogs1]

What you can do is continue to exercise, eat healthfully, don't take drugs, meditate (MBSR, this is probably the most useful), and hope for the best. If you're religious I recommend getting at least mildly involved. Get a therapist to help you conquer yourself when you're feeling overwhelmed. If you must, see a psychiatrist. It may take weeks or months to feel better, and if you don't feel better whilst doing all of these things in that time-span, then see a psychiatrist. I can tell you're suffering, and will do my utmost to help.

This seems like more of a physiological thing, and that's why I am taking time off from exercise. I already meet with a therapist once a week, and I eat healthier than any college student you'll find.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Exercise helps with these kinds of issues. Like don't overdo it, but don't stop exercising, in my experience that makes things worse. Make sure you still at least get some gentle exercise every day. I would also avoid caffeine, nicotine, stimulating supplements, etc. Work on your sleep using techniques like sleep hygiene, meditation, etc.

Also it's not good etiquette to keep bumping your own thread, people will respond when they are able .

Sounds like an issue with your hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis. The combination of hormonal issues, hormones, drugs and stress could have come together to trigger your current state. "Resetting" it is very complicated, but I think it's really important to do (and not do) whatever you can to work on it soon before it becomes a vicious circle that reinforces itself. Have you noticed any changes since stopping the human chorionic gonadotropin? Do you have a good doctor? Are you taking other drugs right now?

It's really not as simple as just taking a drug to fix yourself sadly. I think a multi-pronged approach is necessary, including a lot of little lifestyle and diet changes (and avoiding anything that may make it worse). I have severe chronic fatigue but I am female, but maybe I can still be of some help if you want.

 

[Bulldogs1]

Exercise helps with these kinds of issues. Like don't overdo it, but don't stop exercising, in my experience that makes things worse. Make sure you still at least get some gentle exercise every day. I would also avoid caffeine, nicotine, stimulating supplements, etc. Work on your sleep using techniques like sleep hygiene, meditation, etc.

Also it's not good etiquette to keep bumping your own thread, people will respond when they are able .

Sounds like an issue with your hypothalamic–pituitary–adrenal axis. The combination of hormonal issues, hormones, drugs and stress could have come together to trigger your current state. "Resetting" it is very complicated, but I think it's really important to do (and not do) whatever you can to work on it soon before it becomes a vicious circle that reinforces itself. Have you noticed any changes since stopping the human chorionic gonadotropin? Do you have a good doctor? Are you taking other drugs right now?

It's really not as simple as just taking a drug to fix yourself sadly. I think a multi-pronged approach is necessary, including a lot of little lifestyle and diet changes (and avoiding anything that may make it worse). I have severe chronic fatigue but I am female, but maybe I can still be of some help if you want.

Planning on still doing light exercise, just going to the gym and shooting hoops but no weightlifting, which is my main form of exercise and kind of my passion.

No changes after stopping the HCG except more fatigued, but I also stopped caffeine at roughly the same time. I have a new doctor, integrative type, and I meet with him in a week and a half for the first time. Heard a lot of good stuff about him. I've seen endocrinologists and naturopaths and no one has been able to help me, but others online have suggested other things affecting my immune system thus affecting cortisol which would lower my testosterone.

Not taking any other drugs right now.

 

[Swimmingdancer]

Honestly seeing an integrative physician has been one of the best health care decisions I've ever made. If you have a good one, you get the best of Western medicine, the best (and usually most evidence-based) "alternative" natural and holistic approaches, and even a little psychology thrown in, all from one practitioner (and if there are things my Dr is not able/qualified to help with she always refers me to the best people and integrates those other therapies/techniques I am using into my care). I really feel like I am in charge of my own health care now and I really like the approach of balancing the body/brain/mind/spirit as opposed to treating each organ in the body as separate and solely using Rx drugs. I really hope your new doctor works out well!

Let me know if you want to talk more or want any tips because I can really relate to the chronic fatigue and hormonal issues.