Exactly, yeah. I've heard reports about it and experienced it myself, to some extent. Most people recommend against snorting it for that reason!
I have to warn you that you probably won't enjoy it very much. There's an interesting dichotomy between MPA and EPH. My collation of a lot of different opinions on the subject has led me to believe that very few people enjoy both. The majority of fans of one are diametrically opposed to the other. It's fascinating really!
Edit: on an unrelated note, I'm completely off the MPA for today and I feel like my IQ has gone up a good 20 points as a result. It really isn't an intellectual stimulant at all. I'm currently studying for a masters in computer science so this discovery is going to have serious implications for my work ethic in future.
I wonder if cross tolerance plays a part in this, i did the usual unfamiliar RC thing with this EPH- small test to make sure nothing untoward happened and it didn't so i tried a greater amount insufflated and then a few days later a fairly substantial IV dose of EPH dissolved in propylene glycol and water, it refused to dissolve otherwise but maybe I'm just impatient and anti stirring and still very few big effects.
A bit of stim jitteriness in my stomach (kinda like feeling nervous? i'm sure you know what i mean) and a bit of vasoconstriction but no rush or euphoria or even any desire to do anything. I mostly just feel a bit sick and a pretty annoying rise in body temperature.
Whether the lack of euphoria was to do with pretty heavy AMT session that I endured this weekend, i say endured because hallucinogens do not agree with my brain and thus i'm still rebuilding any of the monoamines i used up over the weekend or not but either way I prefer MPA over EPH unless i'm missing some sort of game changing ROA for EPH
I haven't had any of this for just over a year, after using it weekly (sometimes daily) for the better part of a year.
I found it way too habit forming, and the smell was too much.
And the vasoconstriction.
And the jaw clenching
Urgh...this stuff is bad news. Any reports of hospitalisations/deaths from it yet? Or long term health issues?
I'm yet to hear of any serious adverse events from MPA use which don't mention interactions or the general effects of long term use of stims, theres been a few mentions in this and the previous megathread of a bit of psychosis if its used irresponsibly and I read somewhere, can't remember where, that someone went to the emergency room following a weekend of binging on MPA and MDPV but after some symptomatic treatment (I'd imagine benzo and vital monitoring) were ok.
As for long term there has been some musings of cardiac issues relating to serotonin agonism but there is no literature to back that up with. Other than that i'd say its again just the usual long term stimulant issues that arise from vasoconstriction and increased heart rate/blood pressure.
I had six months without taking this and had a few lines at the weekend. I'd forgotten how bad the urinary retention due to vasoconstriction could be. I seem to suffer this far more than any of my friends and by the end of the session it becomes extremely uncomfortable, especially as a few beers tend to be consumed over the evening. I don't get such bad effects from any other stimulant, it is in a league of its own. Can anybody recommend anything to reduce these effects?
This seems to be a very subjective symptom, MPA if anything leads to me urinating more often and very rarely makes it difficult, the lack of research into stimulant induced urinary retention is most likely due to the fact most peoples response is "stop taking stimulants". MDMA leaves me pretty much unable to pee and i've found that pushing or trying to force urine out is counterproductive, try taking a deep breath and relaxing to let it flow out instead of getting annoyed or trying to force it.
Alpha blockers have shown some promise in helping with urinary retention but usually with other primary causes, plus as far as i know they are prescription only but there are some plants and supplements out there that do the same general thing.
As a little after note in the interest of looking out for people it may be worth mentioning it to a GP with or without saying its stimulant induced so they can check theres nothing else that might be lurking under the surface that is merely being exacerbated by the stimulant use.
Anyone tried the brown stuff? seems impure but produces excellent effects...
Brown MPA!? obviously not asking for vendor info but did they say anything about why its brown? also where are you getting it from geographically ? Brown MPA sounds shifty at best.
It really isn't an intellectual stimulant at all.
Well nothing like a bit of disagreement to stir up debate
I guess the cognitive effects of a drug are going to vary pretty dramatically by the nature of how different brains are from each other. Personally i've found taking MPA for a lengthy period does leave me a little bit mentally slow, thats not to say i'm incapable of studying but simpler things like word recall and working out pretty easy maths seems harder and more laboured whereas my focus on things is improved.
I'll happily write a 1500 word essay on something unrelated to my actual studies even if it requires no mental power at all but when it comes to the task of actually using my brain to write about something mentally challenging such as my current actual study for my degree my brain seems to be lagging behind and wikipedia is much more heavily relied upon (checking the references of course
so i guess i will have to agree with Machete that as a motivating tool its very useful and if you already have all the information in your head and only have a limited amount of time to write it up (as i found when i forgot about an essay until the night before) then MPA has its uses, read: makes you type like a cracked out secretary.
But for actually challenging mental situations it seems like it slows you down more than anything, i certainly wouldn't risk it for an exam or inspection or any other time limited high stress cognitively trying situations.
Again just personal experience, i also tend to get a bit moody on MPA and have very little time for people who are doing things wrong so maybe its to do with patience and cognitive function... you may be able to tell this isn't my area of expertise (yet) but at least I'm trying
. Anyway i will stop flooding this page now, i should probably start replying to several posts in one reply :/
