The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - Hit #12 - Oh look, it's MXE o'clock

[choco1ate]

Just an observation: over the past year or so, anytime I wondered if I should try MXE, all I had to do is read the last few posts on the most current thread to find plenty of reasons not to. Nope, don't think I need to get myself hooked on the "philosopher's heroin".

i doubt whoever called it that has tried heroin. mxe isnt all that bad, its just the bad aspects that get discussed here. at least thats how i see it

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Dude I've done Opana, Morphine (plugged), Opium, and lots of other opiates.

MXE is nothing like those, sure, there is a strong urge to use it if you have a batch laying around but w/d symptoms are not that bad (just "man I wish I could do more of my stash"). It's easy to stop as long as you don't order more than a gram or less at a time and don't order more when you ran out. Hell grams of the stuff would last me for a week, and I was sharing most of it with friends.

 

[taco bell]

i doubt whoever called it that has tried heroin. mxe isnt all that bad, its just the bad aspects that get discussed here. at least thats how i see it

I dont think in terms of its addiction potential or withdrawl potential, but it terms of as long as you have some and are doing it you're totally content with doing nothing but sitting there or lying in bed, but as opposed to just sitting the feeling good like heroin without anything really going through your mind other than how amazing you feel,with mxe you're sitting there feeling amazing flying through space with tons of insite and hilarious ideas and whatnot going through your mind, your always thinking on it. At least thats my take on the name philosophers heroinl, I mean for years and years Ketamines been called psychadelic heroin so I think the name kind of fits.

But yea trying to compare how addictive mxe is compared to heroin dosent work at all. You run out of mxe is like aw shucks, damn I sure would like to do some more, o well just gotta wait to get more, whereas running out of heroin when you're addicted to is downright miserable.

 

[vortech]

There is so much talk of MXE being strongly addictive like coke, amphetamines, or even heroin, but I really put the addictive qualities in its own unique category, even different enough from ketamine addiction. The fact that there is no physical withdrawl automatically separates it from anything physically addictive, but I think one thing that we are overlooking in the discussion is any anti-addictive properties that it may carry. IME a break after a moderate binge offers its own reward in the form of a fresh feeling of clarity, context, perspective and appreciation for life (after the initial 'flat' mental feeling I typically get for the first few days of a break). I'm really appreciating feeling fully 're-associated' with a clear head after almost a week break. Alas, having a clear head eventually gets boring too, so I don't doubt I will want to experiment again. Another thing to note about MXE addiction is the ceiling to the positive effects. After hitting it too much it just doesn't work the same way anymore, even at high doses which helps lose the fiendish quality over time. I consider myself to have a very addictive personality, but I still take my regular breaks when I feel the most desired effects weaken.
On the other hand, the very inexpensive wholesale price strengthens addiction potential IME.

 

[HofmannBlotter]

What is everyone's opinion on MXE and it having a side effect of high blood pressure? I read a UK study today that looked at two groups of 3 participants on MXE and they presented with tachycardia of 130-150 and had systolic blood pressure between 150-190. These are very high figures. Has anyone tested their own blood pressure while on MXE?

Yes I tested myself with a device placed in my wrist. I did it 15 minutes after insufflated a 5mg dose (I can feel that dose so). Blood pressure was 18/6 (EU metric) and Heart rate was at 125 BPM for 20 minutes.
Both pressure and heart rate lowered shortly after (Heart rate was about 70 - 80 BPM).

There is a good thread here talking about Serotonin Syndrome with Methoxetamine use, pretty scary I must admit :

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/563915-suspected-serotonin-syndrome-from-methoxetamine-use

 

[petzy]

Well I've heard numerous reports of lower potency MXE doing the rounds recently, and I wanted experience reports from those who've tried it. Are the effects qualitatively the same as "normal" MXE, simply taking higher dosaging for it to take effect? Or is the effect also different?

Thanks

Take this with a grain of salt as I can't be sure if my tolerance just suddenly did skyrocket or I had low quality MXE.
My perceived differences:

My fiending for multiple doses per day had been higher.
The peak seemed to be 'altered', more extreme. A common theme was having had found 'the answer' for a few seconds or transcendence seemed to be imminent. (or death in a neat panic attack ...)
I sometimes suffered from amnesia. E.g. watching football and suddenly realizing that the match had been over and having no idea what happened.

Apart from that, the stuff felt pretty much like MXE always felt. Holing was perfectly possible the first few times, I did always have my MXE bloating etc.

 

[DroneLore]

ive only ever bought bad mxe once. every batch ive gotten has had the same potency, regardless of texture

 

[phew]

Have any of you tried typing while on MXE? It feels like you're being controlled, like a puppet.

Great presentation of this on reddit, comment if you can:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Drugs/comments/1bova1/want_to_know_what_its_like_to_think_on_mxe/

* i'm sitting in my room and i go "Whoa mxe is fucking confusing. What? the fuck. Yes, what the fuck with a period. Not a question mark in this darkness, in this confusing stream of bits of information from my finger tips. But. If you're reading this, know that I have spoken out loud, all that you have read.

* That might be a bit organic, but MXE wants me to tell you (I'm alone and) that I'm a human being who has taken MXE. And if you want to know what it's like to be on MXE, then go backward, yes, that's correct, go backward, it almost feels automatic. Read what I've said out loud, as if, you were just learning the English language. Because, the person, who typed this out wants you all to know that, while he was typing this all out he was saying these words in a monotone voice. It was very strange. In fact, if you read this, you are reading, a person's, personal, methoxetamine typing trip.

* The person who was tripping on this MXE, happens to be (and that rhymes) somewhat intelligent but lazy, so they were in a automated stupor at the time they wrote this. This is chilling. This is schizophrenic. In fact, like the beginning of Lolita, sound that out: SCHIZ. O. PHRENIC. One. Two. ThreeFour. Read all of this out loud, because, the person who typed this out was tripping very hard on MXE! Exclamation mark. In fact, this post, the person thinks, will be so accurate in describing the effects of this substance that many people on the internet will agree with what has been presented here. They will all agree that this is one of the most accurate representations of the MXE mindstate in front of a computer. You are privileged to read this.

* You don't understand. This is beyond a trip report, this is a one to one connection with someone tripping on MXE. You can actually go through the trip with them by reading this out loud and typing it out at the same time. That's what they were doing while they were high on MXE, so why don't you do it too? They were me. I am doing this. Oh my god, this will enlighten so many people about what MXE is like... in language form. Type this out as you read it. And you will realize how dissociated the person who wrote this was. This text is imbued, that means, it is brimming with the life of the person who wrote this.

* THIS TEXT IS ALIVE, YOU CAN FEEL IT. I AM ALIVE AND I AM ON MXE AND I WROTE THIS SO THAT YOU COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING TO ME. I WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MXE WAS LIKE. SO TYPE THIS OUT WITH ME AND READ IT OUT LOUD LIKE A QUIET ROBOT.

* This text is one of the most organic, most telling things you will ever see about this curious substance called: MXE. Remember. To read this, you must go back, to the beginning. Of the text. And read this all out loud, as you type this. As if, it was you. In fact, here is something I'm going to tell you: type out: "As if, it was you." Then, backspace the little "you" and replace that with "YOU." The person who wrote this was high on MXE, and felt like the MXE was controlling him. Everything that you have read here, was heard, no, was spoken out loud by the person who typed it! Exclamation mark!

* The person on MXE found this to be the most intense mind-controlling experience he has ever had, he doesn't even understand why he is talking about himself in the third-person. The dash in the previous sentence was said out loud. I am on MXE. If you are typing this like me, then you are on MXE. MXE makes me type out that I am on MXE. And, while I type that, I also say that, in a... kind of, stuttering, voice. A record of my trip. I don't know how this happened, but this is a beautiful experience, because I feel like I'm observing a chemical author. A chemical author. Imagine that. Crazy.

* MXE is fucking intense. I'm doing this to keep myself from going schizophrenic. No, that's a lie. That's a little bit of humor for you, because, in fact, I want to take more MXE to get even MORE HIGH THAN THIS. CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT? AFTER WHAT YOU HAVE READ? LOOK at this. Seriously, I am high as holy fucking meatballs. M. M. MXE. This is good stuff. Wow. I can't believe that I typed and talked this whole thing out. This is beyond descriptive.

* This is one of the most illuminating insights into this drug that I have ever fucking experienced. This is the nature of MXE in text, I have actuallly succeeded in giving it to you. Wow. Amazing. I feel great. I said that last sentence like a robot would.

* MXE made me schizoautistic. I sounded out schizoautistic like it was a Gourmet word. A Gourmet word: Schizo - AUTISTIC. Wow. I'm on drugs and typing. This is beyond anything I've ever read on Erowid. This is fucking AMAZING. I think that when I post this online, people will immediately understand that: I GOT VERY HIGH ON MXE AND TRIED TO TELL YOU ABOUT IT. AND MXE HELPED ME TYPE THIS LETTER TO YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR READING. THANK YOU FOR COMING. THANK YOU FOR EXISTING. MXE IS FUCKING WILD. WEIRD. IT IS W, UPSIDE DOWN M. WOW. DAMn. The little n. I'm high as fuck. I have confessed to the computer overlord. I'm still sounding out everything I'm typing. Wow. This is a PLUS PLUS PLUS experience. FUCK. MUSIC. I need to turn it back on. But before I do that. Read all of this. This is MXE.

 

[lastest]

A weird thing I find about typing on MXE is my spelling goes to pot because I lose the to instinctive ability to see if words 'looks right' if you see what I mean. You know how you just know if a word is spelled rightly or wrongly just a glance before you identify exactly which letter or letters are out of place? That goes out the window, and it ends up with me trying to write phonetically. Of course the spell checker always picks it up, so I don't end up actually writing like that. Maybe I should turn it off and write a passage and see how it comes out, like some crazy Ridley Walker-esque dialect. Of course I'd have to get hold of some damn MXE in the first place. Oh sweet hexylamines, how I miss you all!

 

[bothrops]

When I'm chatting or talking on mxe I find it difficult to not try and be a smartypants and squeeze in all kinds of wordplay and cutesie expressions and figures of speech. Often modified to fit the context or to make no sense at all.
Kinda makes me think of pre-crack black people doing coke and thinking they're hot shit, putting rhymes in their daily speech and blowing homies minds with the cleverness.

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

I've never noticed anything particularly strange about typing on MXE, but I do sometimes find myself googling words (especially ones that I usually wouldn't use) to double-check or verify their meaning or if it makes sense what I'm saying contextually.

 

[Beefy]

I had such an intense MXE experience last night compared to the first time i did it (a few months ago). I thought it was going to be ok, so my first line was a sort of a big bump. And it was weird because i didn't feel anything for like 20 minutes or so. I even ate cause i was hungry, and after i finished eating it hit hit me full force. It was so strange. mxe is def. a weird drug. SOOO not like K. It took me somewhere else man

 

[Beefy]

Well I've heard numerous reports of lower potency MXE doing the rounds recently, and I wanted experience reports from those who've tried it. Are the effects qualitatively the same as "normal" MXE, simply taking higher dosaging for it to take effect? Or is the effect also different?

Thanks

I think there's some amazing MXE going around now. I really thought there was perhaps some LSD in it because it was sooooo full of colors when i closed my eyes. also audio hallucinations were VERY apparent.

 

[Morkin]

^ How much did you do & how did you do it, please?

 

[Grinders Kiefers]

I think there's some amazing MXE going around now. I really thought there was perhaps some LSD in it because it was sooooo full of colors when i closed my eyes. also audio hallucinations were VERY apparent.

There are a lot of things wrong with that statement, but I can absolutely guarantee you that there isn't any LSD in the MXE you're getting...CEVs and audio hallucinations are not uncommon with MXE, especially in higher doses.

 

[Obsidius]

^ yeah. they are guaranteed on higher dosages.



btw. for people that "lost the magic" of MXE and also K: a combination of both might start another magic. currently digging this combo and found K perfect to bump/push MXE into hole territory. dont need much of both, there seem to be a synergy going on.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Careful not to lose the magic with that combo too, or you'll really be sunk!

 

[Beefy]

There are a lot of things wrong with that statement, but I can absolutely guarantee you that there isn't any LSD in the MXE you're getting...CEVs and audio hallucinations are not uncommon with MXE, especially in higher doses.

Well, the first time i ordered, It seems that i had to use more to get the CEVs. But with this batch that i got, It seems that i needed to use less. But it's also strange because i think this batch might be cut. I'm not 100% sure, but the 1st batch, it seems that there were more bigger shards and this was more powdery. But it feels more potent. Hmmm, or it could also be the meds i'm on now. Something could be different than it was like 4 months ago.

^ yeah. they are guaranteed on higher dosages.



btw. for people that "lost the magic" of MXE and also K: a combination of both might start another magic. currently digging this combo and found K perfect to bump/push MXE into hole territory. dont need much of both, there seem to be a synergy going on.

Right now i'm in the possession of both, So I am able to do that, and it does add a certain fun element to it as opposed to just doing them separately. I'll try that out for kicks.

 

[Dioxy]

btw. for people that "lost the magic" of MXE and also K: a combination of both might start another magic. currently digging this combo and found K perfect to bump/push MXE into hole territory. dont need much of both, there seem to be a synergy going on.

I've been waiting for someone to comment on that combination. The only time I've done it was when I was already high so it was difficult to say what did what.

 

[Asante]

People, people! I'm very sorry to hear of the severe addiction issues and trainwrecks y'all are having with MXE but none of that is the case with me. To balance all those negative tales, here a kind of success story.

A few days ago I had my 2 year anniversary of MXE use. During that period I always had a stash of it. I use it once or twice a month, and when I use I generally do it in 1 day of repeat dosing or sometimes 2 days, with the second day typically on the third day after the first dosing. So, 1-4 days in a month, usually. On a usage day I tend to use 30mg to 210mg, in 1-8 increments of 30mg. I used sublingual at first but switched to oral use as I find it just as effective but without the enhanced dental exposure and hassle of sublingual. I sprinkle the powder on my tongue, swirl to dissolve with water and then chase with the rest of the glass. I typically use between 100mg and 1gr a month.

If I waited at least 2 weeks, that first 30mg still rocks me, and with repeat 30s I hole usually between 90-150mg total. Intervals are 1:30-2 hours typically, but often longer. On the repeat day there generally is marked tolerance, you really need to wait at least 2 weeks and preferably 3 weeks or longer.

After 2 years of use, and having waitedv a few weeks, I can still note the following effects for the first dose:

At 10mg oral it makes a great alcohol substitute on social occasions. Its like having had a couple to drink but entirely lucid and less meh. Very social and you can drop several of em without going anywhere in terms of needing to be alone because of intensity.

At 20 mg oral I get a good stoning drunk with interesting dissociative-style thinking which often is fruitful for self development.

At 30mg oral, I get an anesthetic punch with fruitful dissociative thinking thats both a challenge and thrilling. It completely disrupts your daily routine and puts you on the spot, in the chair, like a darted lion, or a kitty just back from surgery. 30mg is the sweet spot for me, the increment of choice. It can be WAY too confusing to use socially. Miracles start happening at this level if you take it in bed in dark silence.

40mg oral knocks me in the middle of next week, holy crap it can be challenging. In bed, positively miraculous.

50mg is God Level. Straight up lightning bolt to the cranium. If I take it as a first dose "God Level" generally takes the form of me holding on for dear life praying to the good Lord not to smite me. Checking my pulse thinking its out of control, but finding my heart all like "dude, whatevers got you worked up is no business of mine". Gushes of energy so strong that I have to struggle to keep calm and not break out in a panic or just scream. Behind closed eyelids it can be like looking into a lamp: bright white light all over. I really dont want this much as a first dose, its literally all I can handle and I holod on for dear life. Late in a binge though, 50mg is just the ticket to birthing universes, catching a glimpse of being the Creator, and true Divinity.