Captain.Heroin
Bluelight Crew
^ this, to a T
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Why is the high from meth so subtle (few questions about meth high)
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^ this, to a T
True that, the kpins and whatnot sort of kill the high. I don't find anything at all subtle about methamp, by any roa. I only indulge very occasionally, as I've seen what it does to people, and besides, I can't friggin shut up for 12 hours after a fat shot, I must be so bloody annoying lol
I used to get pissed when I was a tweaker hanging out with h junkies. They'd get all quiet and I didn't have anyone to talk to... 
then I switched to h and hated the tweakers cuz they wouldn't shut up lol. Funny how that works out.
then I switched to h and hated the tweakers cuz they wouldn't shut up lol. Funny how that works out.
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
^The clonazepam isn't as much to blame as the quetiapine is. It is a DAR antagonist, so it sort of defeats the point(HAH - a pun, get it?)
That's what I was thinking. Seroquel is a dopamine antagonist, well most antipsychotics are to some degree.
heuheuheuheu...
ya...didn't think about the quetiapine...fuck...that's what you use when you start feeling like there's people out to get you to kill your meth psychosis lol...the benzos just kinda chill you out...they don't kill it...
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
You have negated the majority of the side effects by consuming a antipsychotic.
I would be vary weary of your body temperature though....
I would be vary weary of your body temperature though....
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
^Yeah.
For future reference, taking antipsychotics on high dose stimulants is dangerous.
For future reference, taking antipsychotics on high dose stimulants is dangerous.
lifeisflyingaway
Ex-Bluelighter
Ugh you guys don't read, i didn't take the seroquel till 10 hours after the meth!!!!!!!
I'm not sure of the half life of seroquel, your dosing schedule, how long you been using it, etc
Venrak
Bluelight Crew
^This.
Derschieber
Bluelighter
What's with all this over-the-top coplicated medicating...really, it's just absurd...how hard can it really be not to use meth when you're on some other funky medication...surely it's either or...I don't pretend to understand why you take these other meds...to help with Depression? Withdrawal? Sorry if I missed this info somewhere...I'm thinking either you have these types of issues, which aren't going away whilst smoking meth, or you don't have a need for the meds, so why take them...
There are all kinds of situations in life when smoking meth is a dumb idea...seems to be your difficulty is in accepting the fact that you're one of those periods now. Maybe try putting it away until there's a good (at least better) time to use it...
Something about all this juggling various tablets and dosages etc...trying to somehow have your cake and eat it...if it gets so complicated, just cut all the shit out until you're good and fine...then maybe you enjoy whatever benefits you hope to get out of smoking meth or whatever...
I'm sure it will still be there for you at some later point in time...
There are all kinds of situations in life when smoking meth is a dumb idea...seems to be your difficulty is in accepting the fact that you're one of those periods now. Maybe try putting it away until there's a good (at least better) time to use it...
Something about all this juggling various tablets and dosages etc...trying to somehow have your cake and eat it...if it gets so complicated, just cut all the shit out until you're good and fine...then maybe you enjoy whatever benefits you hope to get out of smoking meth or whatever...
I'm sure it will still be there for you at some later point in time...
Wow this is surprising. Either I have lost my mind completely or you guys need some educating on this topic. Not sure which?
I use Seroquel to end my meth binge with excellent effect. It kills stimulants including the SNS stimulation with brutal effect. Its quite magical in this respect. I could be on a massive meth dose and take as little as 150mg of Seroquel and when it kicks in the cancellation of the stim is almost instantaneous enabling relief and immediate sleep. It is also used for stim overdoses in hospital due to this ability.
I have backed up this activity with proper research as well
I would be very interested in hearing why this is dangerous. Granted i am referring to Seroquel only, others may have differing results. I however dont see how using this drug class to block and negate stimulants can be an issue in any way beyond the standard risks associated with this drug that could represent in any usage scernario.
In fact the results of Seroquel in for use for stimulant relief is one of its major benefits for the educated stim drug user, especially since you will completely avoid any sort of comedown completely with proper implementation.
These last few posts above have left me stunned to be honest. Help me understand. I am open to correction.
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
^I pretty much wouldn't take seroquel with meth because it would pretty much block all the effects of the meth and you wouldn't get high....
The only way I could figure it being dangerous is, If you took a huge amount of meth and took some seroquel to come down or even it out, it might block the "high feeling" but the CNS stimulation would still be there...like you're heart racing and pounding, and it might be worse to take a knock-out dose of seroquel and try to go to sleep with your heart-racing...
It's the same way with benzos....They'll make you feel a lot calmer when you're on stimulants but they won't cancel out the CNS stimulation, even though it might feel like they're causing the stimulant to completely wear-off, it's still active until it wears off on it's own....
It's bad to take "black-out doses" of anything to come down from amphetamines......If you're using a little seroquel at the end to "come down", it's probably not a big deal...
Opiates, benzos and antipsychotics can all be highly sedating and trying to cut through all that with meth can be pointless.....that's the thing
The only way I could figure it being dangerous is, If you took a huge amount of meth and took some seroquel to come down or even it out, it might block the "high feeling" but the CNS stimulation would still be there...like you're heart racing and pounding, and it might be worse to take a knock-out dose of seroquel and try to go to sleep with your heart-racing...
It's the same way with benzos....They'll make you feel a lot calmer when you're on stimulants but they won't cancel out the CNS stimulation, even though it might feel like they're causing the stimulant to completely wear-off, it's still active until it wears off on it's own....
It's bad to take "black-out doses" of anything to come down from amphetamines......If you're using a little seroquel at the end to "come down", it's probably not a big deal...
Opiates, benzos and antipsychotics can all be highly sedating and trying to cut through all that with meth can be pointless.....that's the thing
Yes certinally you would not want to combine the two if you desire to retain the effects of the stimulant. The benefit is for when the time comes to put and end to the situation and get some sleep.
Seroquel does block all or the majority of the SNS stimulation. Without that ability it would not really have any benefit at all in ending or blocking a stimulant high or avoiding comedown as the SNS stimulation is the major problem in all these situations. This drug class does work by blocking these receptors directly. It treats the source of the issue.
I will agree however that for some reason it does not work when within a very negative comedown situation and only works to completely block the effects when used while still under the direct effect of the stimulant. Not sure why or what technical factors would explaint this odd contradiction. I have however tried Seroquel into a comedown and its very unpleasant for the short time that you remain conscious. Fortunately sleep will cut this short in good time.
Benzos on the other hand have no blocking ability or any effect on the physical reduction of stimulation and rather work by masking or treating the perceived negative effects of the stimulation, very effectively no doubt.
Personally I would rather treat unwanted stimulation by blocking or resolving the source of the problem rather then treating the perceived symptoms while it continues to rampage through your system going about its nasty business in the background.
Seroquel does block all or the majority of the SNS stimulation. Without that ability it would not really have any benefit at all in ending or blocking a stimulant high or avoiding comedown as the SNS stimulation is the major problem in all these situations. This drug class does work by blocking these receptors directly. It treats the source of the issue.
I will agree however that for some reason it does not work when within a very negative comedown situation and only works to completely block the effects when used while still under the direct effect of the stimulant. Not sure why or what technical factors would explaint this odd contradiction. I have however tried Seroquel into a comedown and its very unpleasant for the short time that you remain conscious. Fortunately sleep will cut this short in good time.
Benzos on the other hand have no blocking ability or any effect on the physical reduction of stimulation and rather work by masking or treating the perceived negative effects of the stimulation, very effectively no doubt.
Personally I would rather treat unwanted stimulation by blocking or resolving the source of the problem rather then treating the perceived symptoms while it continues to rampage through your system going about its nasty business in the background.
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BlueHues
Bluelighter
^Cool, thanks for clarifying the difference. I wasn't sure....