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New (or relatively new) RCs - Feels somewhere inbetween

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oSpherical said:
For those of you interested in Benzos, I have it on good authority that there will be 3 new Benzodiazepine analogues coming out soon.

According to a vendor:
  1. A legal Valium analgoue
  2. A derivative of Pyrazolam with added hypnotic/sedative properties to coincide with its unparalleled anxilytic properties
  3. An Alpha 5 selective benzodiazepine (so almost identical to alcohol)

It looks like vendors are starting to stray from the stimulant path, which could lead to some interesting results. Etizolam has been the "go to" chemical for far too long now, so it'd be interesting if these analogues turned out to be on par.
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my dick=hard
my brain=april fool
 
oooh that does sound nice. Wish something like a carbamate analogue would come along. Get so jealous of those yanks and their carisopradol.
 
what was anyones take on 5-meo dalt? anything like amt? duration short? i dont get it when people say u can eat on it and it makes u feel lethargic :/
 
and out of all the new cannbanoids which are the most nicest , easy going ones? its a shame i never tried the jwh series :/ i love my weed too
 
Bare_head said:
what was anyones take on 5-meo dalt? anything like amt? duration short? i dont get it when people say u can eat on it and it makes u feel lethargic :/
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colour enhancement and anxiety....thats all i got from 5meo-dalt

maybe like the very first few minutes of an AMT trip....but unlike AMT there is no reward for putting your self through the initial roughness

5meo-dalt is the only psychedelic that made me want to clean [ a fruitless exercise as i was camping in some woods at the time ]

i often consider getting more as the duration makes it a convienent choice....but deep down i know i didnt enjoy it so i dont bother

back to baseline after 6 hours [ donbt know what doses as i was just eyeballing and snorting, i was aiming for 50mg or under though, dont think i was far off that ]

never tried smoking because of the anxiety.....yeah you can eat on it, i didnt get the 'munchies' but it didnt surpress my ampetite, if you see tasty food you'll probably want it

lethargic ? not for me quite the opposite

sucuse the appaling spelling....think i'm 60% retatrd today

oh....and the time dilation...omfg....never felt time pass so slowly...it was a long six hours the relief when it wore off was probably the highlight of that day...
only tried it once as one of mates got chest pains on it so i got the fear and chucked it on the fire
 
backroll said:
It's brutally strong mate! Blew me away! Also I have found it to be the most addictive one so far.

Found myself getting through a g in a few days easily 8( Which I guess makes sense if you found it short acting as well
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Ah shit, just had my third smoke thisevening of this. Might thave to put it away before I do the same, was three days with the g of 5fakb48!
 
I can honestly say I've never tried a single synthetic cannabinoid, despite them repeatedly piquing my interest! Are they really worth it? Are the subjective effects sufficiently different from weed to make them worthwhile?

Also, I know Ethylphenidate hardly counts as "new", I've found that with a few runs/mini-binges that you start to get a feel for it and it becomes a much more pleasant experience. I have 1/2g arrived today, and a couple of 20mg doses, tempered by 2 etizolam and a strong beer (Silly to mix CNS depressants I know...:\), has got me in a very pleasant state of mind, moderately stimulated with minimal side effects, lovely.

Anyone else found that extensive trial and error you can reach a mighty fine sweet spot with regards to doses and sensible combinations?
 
i find it interesting htat 5meo-dalt is still haunting this thread really... its been available at least for a couple of years so i hardly think it counts as a new RC... but hey what do i know

mrcientist... i think a lot of people are the opposite with this chem, in that after a few good times it just loses its magic fast. even after you get the whole idea of mixing it wiht alcohol or depressants it still seems to fall out of favor. never having tried it i can only speculate so im glad you like it and it works for you
 
I had some 5F-AKB-48 too, incredibly short, quite potent, nothing that made it stand out from cannabis.

"Crackabis" comes to mind. Much too short-lived.
 
Any idea what the most benign/'safest' RC cannabinoid is, in terms of health impact (lung irritation, heart), excessive lingering mental cloudiness and other unwanted side effects?

Even though I live Amsterdam and have easy access to a nice variety of hash and weed I'd like to test out some synthetics, but only the ones with a 'safer' & more proven profile. I imagine that the JWH-081 and -122 are good bets, but surely there must be better?
 
lurching said:
Even though I [...] have easy access to a nice variety of hash and weed I'd like to test out some synthetics[.......] I imagine that the JWH-081 and -122 are good bets, but surely there must be better?
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hash would be better, and has a better and more proven safety profile. I know you know this. But just saying.
 
Transform said:
I had some 5F-AKB-48 too, incredibly short, quite potent, nothing that made it stand out from cannabis.

"Crackabis" comes to mind. Much too short-lived.
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Agreed. Some of us struggle to acquire actual cannabis at a price below "fukkininsanepisstakegettafuck" prices though. Plus, was a freebie that got left here so not complaining. Seemed decent enough if it's cheap though. I'm sure better alternatives are available but can't keep up with all these synthetics really.
 
Mailmonkey said:
hash would be better, and has a better and more proven safety profile. I know you know this. But just saying.
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Definitely has the most proven safety profile, yeah. I should probably get a decent vaporizer (with balloons!) and stop the spliffs. That'll patch me irritated lungs and lacklustre cardio shape up. And each hash has a different cannibinoid content so I'll likely have enough variation with just that. Still..

backroll said:
currently that would be sts-135. ie. it seems less intense than t'others
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Maybe subjectively less intense, but not necessarily safer. This looks to be an obscure, relatively un-researched one.
 
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lurching said:
Maybe subjectively less intense, but not necessarily safer. This looks to be an obscure, relatively un-researched one.
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Aren't they all now since the ban? :\

Never thought I'd say it but am actually somewhat nostalgic for some of the ol' Doc Huffman's Numerals. At least some of the JWH series had some actual research behind them... sort of. Although, to be fair, there have been a few decent ones I've sampled here and there since too. Surprisingly good occasionally. Although I get totally lost with the nomenclature so fuck knows what any of 'em were 8)

I'd stick to weed/hash if easily available at reasonable cost, personally. None of the synthetics I've tried come close really. Is kinda like somebody crystallised a cannabis plant then shattered it into a gazillion unequal pieces then sold the bits on to vendors. We're mostly down to the scrapings at the bottom of the baggie now, methinks.
 
5F-AKB-48

I bought a g of this a month ago and have been stoned almost every waking hour for the whole 4 weeks. I don't think I've got through a 3rd of it yet. Incredible value imo! Vaping it off foil with no cannabis tolerance at the beginning.

Getting a tad bored of being stoned so often, and the munchies are beginning to piss me off. But I'm recovering from surgery on my spine so it's not like I have much to do with my time at the moment anyways.
 
Albion said:
Nor-t(quite)-Mephedrone =D
There's a thread on it here. Looks like it's never really been commercially synthed before.
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But now someone put it on the map, and I've been asking myself if some of the batches of meph who were offered in recent months which were described as 'a bit peculiar but almost pre-ban' or some similar line in fact have been this stuff.
 
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