Does Taking Stimulants Exacerbate Benzo Withdrawals?

[xxpurplehazexx]

I'm curious as I currently take dexedrine and klonopin. I'd like to taper off both of them at some point. Opinions/experiences/speculations welcome, just let me know which please :D

 

[Tony Williams]

I'm curious as I currently take dexedrine and klonopin. I'd like to taper off both of them at some point. Opinions/experiences/speculations welcome, just let me know which please :D

No dosing info, habit info given or reason of use. Will assume mod amount of both and both used 1 yr. I will assume the Dex is ADHD and Klon aniexty/sleep. - This is made up but your reason would vary.

Why do you wanna kick BOTH all of a sudden?

Now Amphetamines aren't rattle addictive. When you STOP them you condown, you might exp wd's but you don't wind up rattling in the corner of your dull, dark room asking for it to stop so tapers are many mental. Some will come heree saying there arent wds or they arent really adduictive but still without Concerta (MPH) or ETH (weaker rit like) my syptoms are focus, bordom, concentration, cravings.

BENZOS MUST be treated CAREFULLY again assuming 1mg morn 2mg 6pm+ of Clonazapam (Kpin). You'd take 10% off the daily or make the doses lower.

Now your Q. MOST of your wds with benzos uif you use a stim you are rolling a loaded dice with your life.

I assume.

UPON WAKING
10mg DEX (not sure on dex mg in gen)
1mg kpin

DINNER/noon
10mg DEX

EVENING
10MG DEX
0.5mg KPIN

NEAR BED
1.5mg KPIN

Now if you come off stims alot of what benzos do are less needed so

UPON WAKING
5mg DEX (not sure on dex mg in gen)
1mg kpin

DINNER/noon
5mg DEX

EVENING
5MG DEX
0.5mg KPIN

NEAR BED
1mg KPIN

Then stop DEX

UPON WAKING
CAFFINE from coffee if needed
1mg kpin

DINNER/noon
CAFFINE from coffee if needed

EVENING
Green tea, chamoline

NEAR BED
1mg KPIN

and its 2mg morn and night just taper but if you COLD TURKEY and suffer shakes its its likelets say a COCAINE OD and then you add DEX if you get me

My MGs may be out yiu may cold turkey the DEX and use a taper pan on klon or swao to Diaz,

 

[xxpurplehazexx]

^^ I don't take nearly that much dexedrine, but anyway. No, I don't necessarily want to kick both at the same time. I was just wondering if it would be really stupid to try tapering off the benzo while on stimulants. I guess you answered my question. It sounded like a bad idea anyway. I take around 15mg dexedrine and 1.5mg klonopin. I rarely ever take klonopin in the morning, only at night.

 

[JarBag]

1. Are you sure you're going to have kpin withdrawals? How long have you been taking it?

2. I don't think it would exacerbate symptoms per se, don't quote me, but I imagine it wouldn't help at all. I'd definitely only stop one at a time too. But you didn't say you were trying to do both at a time.. But a good idea like you thought to not. (accidental rhyme)

 

[BlueHues]

@Tony Williams, whats up you crazy fuck......always enjoy a good TW rant!

I can't cite any scientific evidence, but I think it's fairly safe to assume that using amphetamines in the midst of benzo withdrawal can't help things.....

I'm no doctor, but benzo withdrawal can cause seizures which I think has something to do with your brain getting "over-excited"?!

Anyway, any CNS stimulant probably could lower the seizure threshold considerably, and even if you didn't have a seizure I imagine it would be "panic attack city" to use any stimulant while in benzo WD....

Of course, if you're taking Dexedrine as prescribed and have a tolerance, it might change things a bit.....IDK...Sure someone who actually knows WTF they're talking about will chime in....

 

[Ninae]

Yes. DON'T TOUCH STIMS DURING BENZO WITHDRAWAL. Unless you're on a similar downer like Lyrica, I guess.

I once had two cups of coffee while in light benzo withdrawal and started getting weak heart cramps and cold sweats (along with high blood pressure and strong, rapid, irregular heartbeat) just like you can get before a heart attack. I think I was seriously close to one but didn't feel I could call a doctor or anything, because it seemed so silly. Luckily, it passed, but caffeine is a weak stimulant. I don't even know how long into the benzo withdrawal you have to wait until you can take stimulants again (without the help of benzos or similar Gaba-agonists).

But this is one of the most important topics that can be brought up as it can be really life-threatening, unlike most ways drugs can be taken. No drug overdose has come close to ending my life apart from a stupidly high stimulant overdose that even benzos couldn't touch. Apart from that only benzo withdrawal, or even worse benzo withdrawal with stimulants, have brought me close to death. Practically the height of stupidity, but not really known to everyone with little experience with these drugs (though multi-drug use is risky in many ways).

 

[xxpurplehazexx]

1. Are you sure you're going to have kpin withdrawals? How long have you been taking it?

2. I don't think it would exacerbate symptoms per se, don't quote me, but I imagine it wouldn't help at all. I'd definitely only stop one at a time too. But you didn't say you were trying to do both at a time.. But a good idea like you thought to not. (accidental rhyme)

I have been taking adderall/dexedrine and klonopin everyday for 3 1/2 years. I started taking them at the same time, so I'm 100% certain I'll have benzo withdrawals. I take the stimulants for ADD/depression and the benzo for anxiety/sleep. I also take an SSRI.

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

I've heard that stimulants can help opiate withdrawal but you're liable to go into seizures if you take them during withdrawal of a gabaergic substance.

 

[JarBag]

What did your doctor say about the weening? Is (s)he helping?

 

[Swimmingdancer]

I think it depends on the specific stimulant, the person and the dose. A lot of people find caffeine horrible during benzo WD. But I've heard a fair number of people say they actually found dextroamphetamine helpful during benzo WD. Since you're already on the dextroamphetamine and presumably taking the same dose every day it might be ok to taper the clonazepam while continuing to take the dextroamphetamine. I would definitely talk to your doctor about it - is your doctor aware that you would like to taper off both these meds?

(Also this is just based on the experiences of others I've talked to, I have not taken Dexedrine while tapering/WD-ing from benzos myself).

 

[dopemaster]

I cant come off uppers or coke comfortably without coke so Id say it would make benzo wd worse.

 

[pasha]

For me they definitely make benzodiazepine withdrawal worst, much worst actually. The CNS stimulation from amphetamines massively increases the fight/flight mode of benzodiazepine withdrawal. Stimulants are also anxiogenic substances, and one thing that benzodiazepine withdrawal doesn't crave is anxiety.

The seizure threshold is also fragile during benzodiazepine withdrawal, so taking amphetamines which can lower the seizure threshold could be potentially dangerous.