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Grindylow

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I had my first pill about a year ago, and have done pills maybe 10 times since then. Each time has been wonderful - incredible euphoria, loved-up to the max etc. However, this doesn't appear to be the case with pure MDMA, for some seemingly inexplicable reason. Last night was the third time I've had MDMA crystals. The first two times I didn't come up at all, but the guy I buy weed off sells amazing weed, so I thought his MDMA would also be great. I decided to buy a gram on Tuesday, third time lucky, right? A friend of mine bought half of the gram off my on Tuesday and she split that with 2 other friends (all three are more experienced with pills and MDMA than I) and they had it that night. Yesterday morning I got a text off her saying that it was amazing, some of the best MDMA she's ever had!

So last night I went out with my friend and split my half gram with him since he had no money, we did it pretty exactly so I had 250mg. I snorted all of it, and about 15 minutes after snorting it I started to feel very slight come-up signs, so I got pretty excited! 10 minutes later I was completely back at baseline, where I remained for the rest of the night. My friend, however, was off his face. He said it was better than any pills or MDMA he's ever had.

Does anybody have any ideas as to why it never affects me? I am average weight and I am not on any medication.
 
Grindylow said:
the guy I buy weed off sells amazing weed, so I thought his MDMA would also be great.
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This isn't a reliable assessment. You simply will have to get a test kit and test your product before anyone can answer your question.
 
Yeah, the guy who used to sell me some of the dankest NW homegrown white widow/trainwreck/afghani sold me some of the WORST pills I've had in my life. Straight TFMPP.. it's absolutely the worst drug I've ever taken. Test kits can be found in my signature, they are rather cheap for the amount of tests you get.

Snorting is not a very efficient way to dose either, 250mg is a very large amount for pure MDMA... if you would have taken that orally you likely would have been a bit too high. I've certainly never dosed a quarter gram at once, and don't plan to.
 
When I first started using MDMA all I ever did was snort it because I thought it was the best method over eating it. I have slowly found out that it really isn't. When you snort some of the powder gets stuck in your nose so you don't get the full effect until you snort more to push it thru so to speak.

Your best bet would be to try and eat it and then snort some after.
 
Thanks for the replies guys. I know it's stupid to judge the quality of a dealer's MDMA by the quality of their weed, but it seems it was MDMA. As I said, four of my friends who are much more experienced with MDMA than I am had some out of the same bag and thought it was some of the best they've ever had, although three of them had a lower dose than I had. This isn't the first time this has happened either, while the second time I got it it was bunk shit, the first time I got it I split it with a few friends, everyone came up except me.
 
I ate it the first time, nothing!

I want to just accept that MDMA just isn't the drug for me, but the curiosity as to why it only works for me in pill form is killing me!
 
As others have said, don't snort it, it's a waste. And if you still feel nothing after bombing some then I'm afraid it might be fake. Another theory could be that you're just not used to pure MDMA, back when I first tried pure MDMA after doing Ecstasy for years it didn't feel as good either, it still had me gurning, but it felt like there was something missing. My only guess is that the E pills in the 90's had more than just MDMA in them, like MDA or speed which went a long way to making those pills so much better. Another thing is Safrole Oil is more tightly regulated than it was in the 90's so MDMA has to be made from a different starting chemical, maybe that effects the high?
 
Folley said:
If it works in a pill but doesn't work as the powder, the powder is obviously not pure MDMA.
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Surely there's something to be said for the fact that all his friends were fucked though? It probably wasn't completely pure but that doesn't explain why he was the only one who didn't feel anything.
 
I used to do "E" at raves. Some of it surely contained an amphetamine of some kind or another. I assumed it was MDMA but eventually when pure MDMA hit the scene, it didn't work on me. Well, it did sort of... I would get high for about 20 minutes and then it would end, but it didn't compare to the all-night rolls I used to have. I can do pure MDMA now but only if I use a "carrier" like MDA, which leads me to believe that all those pills I originally did weren't straight MDMA.

So there are a few possibilities here:
1) The crystals you took were crap and your friends just don't know what they're talking about.
2) The pills you originally took over the past year didn't have pure MDMA in them, but contained other substances, and you either weren't even doing MDMA or you can't process pure MDMA by itself in the first place.
3) The MDMA you have done has made your brain more susceptible to down-regulation, and now when you dose you get no response (the desensitization phenomenon).

For me, my relationship with MDMA at this point is probably partly to do with #2 and #3. If I take MDMA with a "carrier" like MDA (which I haven't done before prior to once this past year), the MDMA gets activated, but if I take MDMA alone it does nothing.

In reality there's no way for us to tell you whether it's your body or the batch of MDMA you took. The only real ways to know are to get your crystals tested or next time be more sure that what you're getting is the real deal.
 
Grindylow said:
Thanks for the replies guys. I know it's stupid to judge the quality of a dealer's MDMA by the quality of their weed, but it seems it was MDMA. As I said, four of my friends who are much more experienced with MDMA than I am had some out of the same bag and thought it was some of the best they've ever had, although three of them had a lower dose than I had. This isn't the first time this has happened either, while the second time I got it it was bunk shit, the first time I got it I split it with a few friends, everyone came up except me.
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If u judged a dudes MDMA based on his other drugs then every thug in the hood would have great MDMA yet MDMA is non existent in the hood.
 
Foreigner said:
I used to do "E" at raves. Some of it surely contained an amphetamine of some kind or another. I assumed it was MDMA but eventually when pure MDMA hit the scene, it didn't work on me. Well, it did sort of... I would get high for about 20 minutes and then it would end, but it didn't compare to the all-night rolls I used to have. I can do pure MDMA now but only if I use a "carrier" like MDA, which leads me to believe that all those pills I originally did weren't straight MDMA.

So there are a few possibilities here:
1) The crystals you took were crap and your friends just don't know what they're talking about.
2) The pills you originally took over the past year didn't have pure MDMA in them, but contained other substances, and you either weren't even doing MDMA or you can't process pure MDMA by itself in the first place.
3) The MDMA you have done has made your brain more susceptible to down-regulation, and now when you dose you get no response (the desensitization phenomenon).

For me, my relationship with MDMA at this point is probably partly to do with #2 and #3. If I take MDMA with a "carrier" like MDA (which I haven't done before prior to once this past year), the MDMA gets activated, but if I take MDMA alone it does nothing.

In reality there's no way for us to tell you whether it's your body or the batch of MDMA you took. The only real ways to know are to get your crystals tested or next time be more sure that what you're getting is the real deal.
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Im kind of the same way, i dont really notice a roll without something. Caffeine, weed, speed <-- if i got one of these i notice the roll.
 
Fasting might help.. A friend of mine can't roll with food in his stomach. He get's the pupils and gurning, but no euphoria or anything.. But fast for 8 hours and BOOM rolling balls.. He has rolled 5 times from the same batch.. 3 great fasted rolls and 2 non existent rolls after eating dinner.
 
Foreigner said:
I used to do "E" at raves. Some of it surely contained an amphetamine of some kind or another. I assumed it was MDMA but eventually when pure MDMA hit the scene, it didn't work on me. Well, it did sort of... I would get high for about 20 minutes and then it would end, but it didn't compare to the all-night rolls I used to have. I can do pure MDMA now but only if I use a "carrier" like MDA, which leads me to believe that all those pills I originally did weren't straight MDMA.

So there are a few possibilities here:
1) The crystals you took were crap and your friends just don't know what they're talking about.
2) The pills you originally took over the past year didn't have pure MDMA in them, but contained other substances, and you either weren't even doing MDMA or you can't process pure MDMA by itself in the first place.
3) The MDMA you have done has made your brain more susceptible to down-regulation, and now when you dose you get no response (the desensitization phenomenon).

For me, my relationship with MDMA at this point is probably partly to do with #2 and #3. If I take MDMA with a "carrier" like MDA (which I haven't done before prior to once this past year), the MDMA gets activated, but if I take MDMA alone it does nothing.

In reality there's no way for us to tell you whether it's your body or the batch of MDMA you took. The only real ways to know are to get your crystals tested or next time be more sure that what you're getting is the real deal.
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I'd say that 2 and 3 seem like the most accurate. It's not uncommon for dealers to pass off methamphetamine as MDMA actually. It's entirely possible you got something stronger and you're desensitized to the comparatively weak MDMA. The possibility of downregulation is also a good point. Do you do serotonergic drugs (psychedelics, DXM, tramadol) or dopaminergic drugs (coke, meth/amphetamines) often?
 
Thanks everyone for your suggestions.

@Foreigner - what other drugs do you think might help complement it? I have no way of obtaining MDA. Do you think cannabis or alcohol would help? Obviously it's subjective to the person, but in general.

@heerutosen - that sounds exactly like me. Huge eyes, grinding my teeth but mentally at baseline.

@dingophone - I don't use any dopaminergic drugs. I've done 2c-e twice and LSD once, they're the only drugs I've used apart from MDMA/pills and weed.
 
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