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What is the least inebriating psychedelic?

Saucy

Saucy

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From personal experience, I would have to say 2C-I and 25I, equally, but for slightly different reasons. I tend to view both of these more as hallucinogenic stimulants than true psychedelics. I haven't really found any activity that they render impossible. In fact, they seem to increase performance for some activities.

As specific examples, I found that the time dilation and perceptual changes from low-to-moderate doses of 2C-I make it easier to quickly navigate mogul runs in skiing events, while low doses of 25I can enhance verbal fluency and the perceived flow and objective rate of my writing. Even racing in time-trial events in a 430hp stripped-down track car seemed to pose no problems whatsoever on these drugs (which makes me feel like the notion everyone seems to advocate that it is unsafe for anyone to ever drive on any psychedelic is a little silly).

Different drugs affect people in different ways, of course, so I am curious what the thoughts of fellow bluelighters on this issue are. Thanks in advance for the responses!
 
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Obviouly dose is the most important factor here, but assuming a medium dose, I supposed you can compare, Mentally, I feel straight on 2c-i, but the morphing, shapeshifting visuals, and lack of depth perception I get make it somewhat difficult to do much physically. Lsd feels the most lucid to me, even in pretty strong doses. 2c-c is probably the worst though. I don't even want to stand up.
 
Yeah Acid is quite notable in this regard. When playing FIFA (I know, I know.. But it's better than Call of Duty yeah?) on the PS3, which I'm usually horrible at, I suddenly and out of the blue had the most elaborate and insane tactics. I was making goals beyond the 16m area and so on. Might seem a bit odd as a story, but if you know how bad I am at FIFA then you'll understand why it springs to mind.

25i is quite good too in this regard. No one ever notices me being on it, not even when I sat next to my dad on the sofa and was watching that Simpsons episode where Homer goes into a trip.

Haven't taken it, but 2C-D seems like a contender too I think?
 
I would have to add DOC to this the list. I find my flow of thought and reasoning is actually better while on DOC.
 
RUSHDAFUNK said:
I would have to add DOC to this the list. I find my flow of thought and reasoning is actually better while on DOC.
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As far as enhancement of mental faculties, I would have to agree with you that DOC tops my list. It is, however, distinctly more psychedelic than the iodine-substituted phenethylamines / amphetamines, so I wouldn't say that it is less inebriating overall.
 
Of those I've tried I'd say:

25I-NBOMe - this felt the most clear-headed of the bunch at times, but at other times it could get pretty mentally intense and leave me in these weird mechanical thought loops.

DOC - I've only consumed it once, what was meant to be 4mg (though I'm unsure if it was really that much based on it being rather mild) and it was also very clear-headed. It was quite stimulating, both mentally and physically, but it didn't bring about much in the way of psychedelic thought patterns or feeling altered mentally. It almost felt like it just brought out an enhanced version of my day, rather than bringing about the sort of trip I expected.

3C-P - Taken at 40mg I found this incredibly mentally stimulating, to the point that I spent the whole night writing. I found that while I could feel I was tripping, and had the lovely body high that was somewhat reminiscent of 2C-B, there was not a hint of feeling "fucked up" or mind-fucked in any way, completely clear-headed, almost more clear-headed than being sober.

2C-B would be a runner up, since it doesn't make you feel particularly messed up either, but due to how intense the empathy and such can get there's definitely potential for feeling pretty inebriated, even if you're not tripping that hard.
 
The first psychedelic I had was 4-HO-MET and I didn't really find it inebriating after the initial couple of hours of tripping balls. I felt like everything was enhanced perception, sounds were crisper and clearer. I felt like my field of view was expanded, I could see more, like the corner of my vision had moved further away and I could focus on multiple things in my view simultaneously. I remember lighting a cigarette and as I lit it, time slowed down and I could hear the click and spark as the flame ignited and the crunching sound of the tobacco burning away as I cupped my hands to light it. As I took my hands away because I'd lit it fine, my field of view opened up again. Lights were brighter but not overly intense, they seemed to light the world up a lot better (it was middle of the night in a park) yet when you focused on them you could still see the bulb inside the casing way up the pole, the light wasn't blinding or disorientating at all.

This is all a couple of hours after the part where I was still having my mind blown by my first psychedelic experience however and I've not done 4-HO-MET again.

I'm a noob... I've only had one other trip which was a combo of 4-HO-DiPT and 4-HO-MIPT, which was a rather stoning experience for the first few hours and after it, I was forced outside but the perception changes were definitely not an enhancement, suffice to say I did not enjoy being outside. Although I remember sound being enhanced, it was confused. The sound of someone opening a car door a few meteres down a street sounded like someone opening a door less than a meter behind me. I guess it wasn't inebriating, but it was confusing at the least.
 
gymstud said:
Seems clear to me no offence
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None taken, and I do get more or less what people think it is, but I honestly think it's kinda subjective. Do you by inebriating mean the capacity to act normal when required? Or how clear your headspace is? How lucid your thoughts are? How in control of your motor functions you are? I find it hard to describe exactly what an inebriating psychedelic is. Now, when combining alcohol and acid on a festival, that's what I would as an inebriating psychedelic experience. ;)
 
No idea what this means. All psychedelics are inebriating or they wouldn't be active. More lucid psychedelics? The 2Cs. More out-of-body psychedelics? LSD, the tryptamines.
 
I took it as the least intoxicating as per the dictionary, which is kinda an oxymoron in the context of altering consciousness. Generally I'm not "fucked up" on any psych, so in the end I think they all apply save for Iboga, Ayahausca and DMT.

morningloryseed: Psychoactive =! inebriating. People use inebriating in context of being drunk, and a lot of drugs clearly differ from that experience. I don't think psychedelics, entactogens or stimulants are inebriating at all, but things alcohol, dissociatives and opiates are.
 
I admit I am not going by a dictionary, but inebriating to me means a softening of ego, inhibition of protective behaviors, allowing the mind to see past one's schemas and preconceived notions. This could very much apply to intoxicants like alcohol (beer glasses) but it could easily be applied to MDMA, LSD, and other psychedelics too.
 
I'm a non-native speaker, so you're probably right I suppose. Though I would put it as dissolution of boundaries because I find alcohol to be ego hardening rather than softening, it's always "oh look at me being drunk doing funny stuff". In a way psychedelics are too, because YOU are special because YOU experience these things.

Anyway, not much sense discussing definition because it's all just semantics. The OP seems to mean cognitive enhancement (or whatever term comes closer) anyway, which doesn't really have to mean that it's the least intoxicating.
 
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