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Impact on LSD's potency/effects from Valium before drop?

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OK. So after having some bad experiences involving freaking out and throwing up from stress while on LSD, I decided to start taking 10mg of valium before dropping.

Yesterday I had in my possession 10 hits of supposed 150ug strength LSD.

At first I took 300ug about an hour after taking the valium and feeling its soothing effects.

On 300ug I usually get pretty vivid CEVs and OEVs, but this time not so much.

So, I decided to drop 450ug extra some hours later. This definitely boosted things, but still I wasn't achieving the state I had previously at such a dose.

Not too long after that I thought "fuck it" and took the remaining 5 hits (now a supposed total of 1500ug).

To note, this is the most LSD I've taken (assuming this was in fact 150ug per tab), yet I was left very dissatisfied.

I'm curious. Was this just shit weak acid, or did the valium massively impact the strength of the trip? Any thoughts? Any responses would be massively appreciated! :D
 
Valium will weaken the trip considerably but the fact that you dropped hours later suggests that tolerance was a factor with the extra hits being weak.
 
Save the valium/benzos for when you're actually freaking out, don't attempt a "preemptive strike," if you will. Considering that you dropped the LSD a mere hour after the valium, then yes most certainly your trip will have been dulled. If the hits weren't really at 150 micrograms either then the problem would be further compounded.
 
Chocolate-Salad said:
Valium will weaken the trip considerably but the fact that you dropped hours later suggests that tolerance was a factor with the extra hits being weak.
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I should say that I took the valium beforehand because previously when I freaked out I puked, tried to take a valium, then just puked that up instantly too.

I guess in the future I'll take the valium several hours before dropping and see what happens :)

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To everyone else, thanks for your responses! :D
 
Benzos are used to stop a trip. Taking benzos before a trip will kill the trip before it starts.

If LSD is unpleasant for you, don't take it.

Or at least, lower your dose! Do you always take 300 ug at a time? Try 100 ug, maybe then you won't freak out.
 
Did you drop on an empty stomach? I don't really get nausea from lsd but I know some people that do. Also consider the fact that purging is an important part of some trips. The come up is also where you might feel a lot of anxiety. The only time I ever get anxiety is coming up.
 
I figure in the future I'll take a valium the night before or something. Then I should feel its residual effects that'll hopefully be enough to keep my calm. The freakouts and purging are not something I want, and not something I always get, but I have PTSD so the risk of it happening is pretty high. I won't stop taking LSD though because it's by far my favourite drug!
 
My experiences with combining benzos (mainly Xanax) and LSD seem to differ greatly from the norm on bluelights. I have taken Xanax a few hours before a trip, 30 minutes before a trip, during the peak of a trip, and during the comedown (not all on the same trip %)).

IME, the combination does change aspects of the trip, but does not dull or kill the trip (NOTE: I only take .5mg - 1mg and I have a tolerance). I find that it helps to relax the trip and generally makes it more positive (in other words I like the combo). My favorite way to do it is to take the Xanax (.5mg) about 1 hour - 2 hours into the trip. This generally increases my high, but also changes it in the most pleasant way. I find it interesting that people feel that it dulls the trip because my experience tends to be the opposite. Anyway, I also enjoy taking the Xanax before the trip and don't feel like it interferes with it greatly. It can make me more tired and change what I wish to do while tripping (for example: If I take the Xanax before tripping, I'm more likely to spend my trip watching clouds instead of hiking through a forest).

I'm not sure if Valium works differently than Xanax with regards to combining it with LSD, so you need to consider that factor. Also it seems that I am an outlier on BL, so take my experiences with a grain of salt.

Good luck sorting it all out.
 
Gyrospeck said:
My experiences with combining benzos (mainly Xanax) and LSD seem to differ greatly from the norm on bluelights. I have taken Xanax a few hours before a trip, 30 minutes before a trip, during the peak of a trip, and during the comedown (not all on the same trip %)).

IME, the combination does change aspects of the trip, but does not dull or kill the trip (NOTE: I only take .5mg - 1mg and I have a tolerance). I find that it helps to relax the trip and generally makes it more positive (in other words I like the combo). My favorite way to do it is to take the Xanax (.5mg) about 1 hour - 2 hours into the trip. This generally increases my high, but also changes it in the most pleasant way. I find it interesting that people feel that it dulls the trip because my experience tends to be the opposite. Anyway, I also enjoy taking the Xanax before the trip and don't feel like it interferes with it greatly. It can make me more tired and change what I wish to do while tripping (for example: If I take the Xanax before tripping, I'm more likely to spend my trip watching clouds instead of hiking through a forest).

I'm not sure if Valium works differently than Xanax with regards to combining it with LSD, so you need to consider that factor. Also it seems that I am an outlier on BL, so take my experiences with a grain of salt.

Good luck sorting it all out.
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Thanks! :D

pofacedhoe said:
opiates and trips are the best anti anxiety combo. by far the best
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Ahhhh, I think I'll have to try that! Thanks! :)
 
Going into a trip with that mindset isn't going to help either. Why did you freak out the other time? Address that first, once your comfortable about it not happening again,drop.

IF you need to turn to the valium -Crush in a tiny bit of water (few mls) - drink it. This way its going to be absorbed a lot quicker than eating a tablet - so even if you do puke some of the valium will have worked its way into your system.
 
Bearlove said:
Going into a trip with that mindset isn't going to help either. Why did you freak out the other time? Address that first, once your comfortable about it not happening again,drop.

IF you need to turn to the valium -Crush in a tiny bit of water (few mls) - drink it. This way its going to be absorbed a lot quicker than eating a tablet - so even if you do puke some of the valium will have worked its way into your system.
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Complex PTSD like mine isn't exactly easy to address..

As well, if I was feeling sensitive to puking, the disgusting taste of crushed and diluted valium would surely make it that much more likely that I'd be sick.

Thanks for your reply though :)
 
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