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Sun and Moon Libra Rising Aries. I also am interested in native astrology...I am a Raven. Both seem to match quite well with eachother.
 
I'll make it simple for everyone:

Leos are the absolute best.

Cancers are stalkers.

Scorpios are GREAT in bed.

Pisces are completely mad.
 
^hahaha I like it.

Seriously can SOMEONE who is serious about astrology tell me about what they have experienced with the precession, and if it affects anything - like do people take it into account already? Or are people using out-of-touch star charts? Discourse please :)
 
The "precession of the poles" causes the various positions of the sun to drift slowly in a 25,000 year cycle. The Astrologic calender was set about 3,000 years ago in ancient Greek times, which has allowed the Zodiac to shift by about 1 and 1/2 signs/houses/constellations since that time. So currently the Vernal equinox is in Pisces when it used to be in Aries, and it will soon slip into Aquarius in a century or so. This is what is meant by the song, "This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius". Likewise, we no longer have the tropic of Cancer on our Earthly globe, as it is now the tropic of Gemini, and it will soon be the tropic of Taurus. Likewise we no longer have the tropic of Capricorn since it is now the tropic of Sagittarius, soon to be the tropic of Scorpio.
Astrologers have thown up their hands at this musical chairs of the heavens, and they have decided to ignore the precession of the poles phenomenon, so that they have kept the "houses" as they were 3,000 years ago, so you are still a Libra even if the actual stars of the sun you were born under were Virgo!
I think it just goes to show what total nonsense Astrology is in the first place
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Does this answer your question?

Wouldn't they have changed the name and stars sign to fit the month, atleast.. Even if they didn't change the "traits"..
 
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As an interesting aside, Libra wasn't even a separate constellation until Roman times; before that, Libra was the claws of Scorpius. In fact, Libra's named stars all still refer to scorpion parts; the Arabs never split it off from the Greek constellation, and the Arabic names have carried over into English.
 
I bought an awesome telescope a while ago. its a celestron nexstar 8 SE. I have some amazing views of planets, moon, sun (with filters) and have taken some pretty cool photos with my mounted nikon d7000...
 
That shift in signs means very little in the means of interpreting a chart.

Look into secondary progressions, your personal planets will 'progress' through the chart with time.. they will all change signs two or three times over the course of a life; this is different to transits. The sun progressing into another sign/house marks a defining change in that person's expression of personality.

Its just fun, you guys are too serious.. :P
 
Astrological Genealogy/ Family Tree

Has anyone ever heard of a similar concept before? I tried goggling it but had no luck. Basically, if we traced back our families astrological information as far as we could is it likely at all that their could be some kind of pattern or information to be learned from them so that we may use it to break negative cycles of energy? I know if we look hard enough we can find patterns in anything, which gives the pattern, existent or not, an actual meaning. Finding a pattern by looking this hard is not what I am talking about in doing something like this. The format to follow for Astrological Genealogy has already came and went, was once here but now has faded from the wisdom of man. It is my opinion that the Mayans and many other civilizations had a much more advanced wisdom of the Heavens and even math. What is everyone's take on this? Has it already been done? Thanks ^.^
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
^hahaha I like it.

Seriously can SOMEONE who is serious about astrology tell me about what they have experienced with the precession, and if it affects anything - like do people take it into account already? Or are people using out-of-touch star charts? Discourse please :)
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I've been more or less apprenticing with an experienced astrologer for 2 years now. Short answer: no, the precession does not matter.

Astrology was formed in antiquity and most people prefer not to mess with the system as it is because we don't know 100% how they came up with what they did. Besides, it still works as is. No one is really using Ophiuchus. The scientific recalibration is irrelevant to the tradition of astrology.

I mean, when the Sun is in Gemini it's actually over the constellation Taurus. There are a lot of irregularities, but that's because astrology does not precisely follow cosmology.
 
There is one thing that bugs the hell out of me about astrology...

I'm a Cancer. If you look up (or know offhand) the "characteristics" of a Cancer, I fit them nearly to a T: thrifty, socially conservative, home-focused, sentimental, thin-skinned, and fiercely loyal. However, move on over to the Eastern Hemisphere, and I also "fit" the description of the Year of the Sheep ("Earth Sheep" specifically) type just as well. To wit:

EARTH SHEEP - 1859, 1919, 1979

This is type of Sheep is optimistic and more self-reliant. In spite of his strong attachments to the domestic scene and devoted loyalty to family members, he will still try to maintain a certain degree of independence.

Earth as his element makes him conservative and careful. He won't like to waste money but he won't be counting the pennies either. But being a Sheep, he will still find it difficult to deny himself. What may appear as luxuries to other people will be bare necessities to him.

However, just as he plays hard, the Earth Sheep will work hard. He can take his responsibilities seriously and will go out of his way to help his friends. It is unlikely that he will ever turn his back on someone in trouble.

Although he may be more adept at concealing his emotions, this particular Sheep is also prone to being neurotic and ultradefensive when criticized.
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http://www.chinavoc.com/zodiac/goat/five.asp

Simply put, they can't both be right, not least because in that whole year there are all 12 signs of the Western Zodiac, none of which have any supposed resemblance to Cancers. Therefore, both must be in error.
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
that's the point about the whole thing - PARTS is the operative word. All your objections and "proofs" prove are that almost all of us directly have SOMETHING in common.
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Most mainstream astrology is based on where your Sun is. The Sun is you personally, your ego, your core personality. It's typical that the mainstream only focuses on where the Sun is, since our world is so ego driven.

You have to consider a person's whole birth chart. That's where the commonalities between all people start to break down and you can see people's individual "blueprints" more clearly.
 
Cafeastrology will tell you where every single planet was exactly when you were born.

Sun is your ego
Mercury is your mind
Venus is your expression (female)
Earth is the Earth
Mars is your energy (male)
Jupiter is the father (sexual reproductive organs)
Saturn is the physical (the teacher, satan)
Chiron (the wounded healer, almost the size of pluto orbiting our sun)
Uranus (the christ? Changes things)
Neptune (the spirit, and also dreams)
Pluto (sub conscious, deep emotion)


I have been studying astrology for about 4 years.

Aries rules the head
Taurus rules the throat/mouth
Gemini the lungs and nose, also hands
cancer rules the breasplate (it is a self protective sign)
Leo the heart and arms
Virgo the abdominal region, intestines, the lower lobes of the liver, the spleen, the duodenum, and the sympathetic nervous system.
abdominal region, intestines, the lower lobes of the liver, the spleen, the duodenum, and the sympathetic nervous system.
Libra rules the kidneys, the lumbar region of the spine, the skin, the ureters, which are the tiny ducts running between the kidneys and the bladder, and the vaso-motor system.
Scorpio Nose and throat problems?, hernias, piles, bladder disorders, and problems with the reproductive organs are the most common Scorpio illnesses.
Sagittarius rules the region of the body directly surrounding the hips, the sacral region of the spine, the coccygeal vertebrae, the femur, the ileum, the iliac arteries, and the sciatic nerves.
Capricorn rule over the knees, the skin, the joints, and the hair.
Pisces rules the feet, the toes and the fibrin of the blood.

there is more that the first 6 signs, but the last 6 signs are the ones in the southern hemisphere, while the other signs are in the light. The last 6 signs were quoted from some ask yahoo page.
 
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I am a Taurus with Venus conjunct my Sun. Mercury, Moon, and Jupiter are all in Gemini. Mars is in Cancer opposite to my Saturn, Uranus, Neptune which are all conjunct. Mars being in cancer is also in it's fall, meaning it's weakest place. So my masculinity is affected immensely. Luckily my Sun is trine the Saturn, Uranus, Neptune conjunct softening the harder edges in my chart.

If anyone would like insight into their birth chart, you can PM your bday so as not to hijack this thread.

Basically I incarnated here on earth about 3,000 years ago for the first time, from my home star system which is located in the Pleiades (Pleyades), more specifically the star of Electra.

The sign that you are born under, will be the sign that you are every single time you incarnate. Most people are reincarnating because they have become blinded by materialism, and thus require more life times to learn the lessons they were meant to learn, but ignore them. It is like being punched in the face telling you to stop doing something, but you do it anyways. This is the main thing holding people back IMO.
 
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