Ah but this is Ubuntu with Cinnamon. Gotta 
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I've not tried getting fancy with desktop effects as they'd probably leave me pooter a-puffin' and a-pantin' too much. Although used 'em occasionally on an older pooter of similar spec so maybe not. I tend to go through lil bursts of customising the shit outta my Linux installs and not had one of those bursts since getting this new poot yet. I see you share my fondness for translucent windows too 
In speediness news, still early to tell really but things do seem to be running a bit smoother since switching to Cinnamon. Stuff opens and closes faster without all the wheezing and freezing that was kinda annoying with Unity. So far so good. A change for the better methinks.
In speediness news, still early to tell really but things do seem to be running a bit smoother since switching to Cinnamon. Stuff opens and closes faster without all the wheezing and freezing that was kinda annoying with Unity. So far so good. A change for the better methinks.
knock
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I think you win on the minimalism front Ceres, no doubt about that. Is that Rat or whatever that decoration-free window manager is called?
BecomingJulie
Bluelight Crew
AfterStep is a bit like Window Maker, isn't it? I like W.M. It's pretty nippy on older hardware, and can run GTK and KDE software with the appropriate libraries installed. My laptop has stock Ubuntu, which means Unity. The launcher down the LHS reminds me a lot of the W.M. dock. It's a bit heavier on resources than I'd like, though; fine on a core i3 (20215.28 BogoMIPS / 4 processors), but it struggled when I tried it on an older 2 GHz, 32-bit box.
Some knock Unity, but I'm prepared to give it a chance; for sure there's room for improvement, but I have faith in the developers to deliver. I guess some people are so used to the way the Windows user interface works, with the start button down the bottom LH corner, they can't handle anything a bit different. I've been around computers for long enough to have seen several different ways of doing the same thing, so don't find it daunting. Anyway, the shell still works the same as way as it ever did
Some knock Unity, but I'm prepared to give it a chance; for sure there's room for improvement, but I have faith in the developers to deliver. I guess some people are so used to the way the Windows user interface works, with the start button down the bottom LH corner, they can't handle anything a bit different. I've been around computers for long enough to have seen several different ways of doing the same thing, so don't find it daunting. Anyway, the shell still works the same as way as it ever did
Heh, someone who remembers Slackware! That was my preferred Distro back in the day. The coolest distro to be into. Didn't like Debian personally or that RedHat shite.
Now using Ubuntu (!)
swampdragon
Bluelighter
I find that Unity 2D is okay.. the fancy default one is way too much for my machine. I used to have transparent windows and mess around with themes and shit, but frankly can't be arsed these days. Cinnamon does look quite pretty, though.
I remember it too, but not that fondly..
^ Not tried the 2D version. Actually, installing Cinnamon is more or less the only thing I've done so far other than general updates. Not bothered with me usual personalisation so far... possibly only due to lack of stims, mind
Ouch. I'll have you know I've used Linux far more than I've ever used Windoze, young fella-ess me lass. Tried most of the major distros and several of the more obscure ones and always did like to fiddle 'bout with settings so it's certainly not the fact that I can't bear having the Start button (or equivalent) anywhere but in the bottom left corner. It's just that Unity rapes me memory usage (or whatever) so is slow as fuck on my pooter. That and I just don't particularly like it. I'm sure it'll get better over time but so far I'm unimpressed. Well, on a relatively low-spec pooter anyway. Maybe it's smoother and less of a faff with higher-spec.
In Slackware news, is one of the distros I've always liked but can also be a bit of a faff. Not tried any of the recent updates, mind. I do like some of the Slack variants though - ZenWalk is one I got on with particularly well.
Ouch. I'll have you know I've used Linux far more than I've ever used Windoze, young fella-ess me lass. Tried most of the major distros and several of the more obscure ones and always did like to fiddle 'bout with settings so it's certainly not the fact that I can't bear having the Start button (or equivalent) anywhere but in the bottom left corner. It's just that Unity rapes me memory usage (or whatever) so is slow as fuck on my pooter. That and I just don't particularly like it. I'm sure it'll get better over time but so far I'm unimpressed. Well, on a relatively low-spec pooter anyway. Maybe it's smoother and less of a faff with higher-spec.
In Slackware news, is one of the distros I've always liked but can also be a bit of a faff. Not tried any of the recent updates, mind. I do like some of the Slack variants though - ZenWalk is one I got on with particularly well.
BecomingJulie
Bluelight Crew
Resource-hogging is a legitimate criticism of Unity.
I chose Ubuntu to get the lappy going with minimal effort. Debian needs a lot of tweaking and upgrading, the stable version is too far behind the bleeding edge for most desk / laptops. (Ideal for servers, though!) Gentoo even more so; maybe I'm just getting old. Next thing it'll be a sit-down shower, a Zimmer frame, a stairlift ..... and an Apple Mac
I chose Ubuntu to get the lappy going with minimal effort. Debian needs a lot of tweaking and upgrading, the stable version is too far behind the bleeding edge for most desk / laptops. (Ideal for servers, though!) Gentoo even more so; maybe I'm just getting old. Next thing it'll be a sit-down shower, a Zimmer frame, a stairlift ..... and an Apple Mac
Have never really gotten into Debian stuffs really. Seem to be popular amongst the True Believers though so will probably try sometime. Gentoo stuffs are usually quality but can be heavy on the resources. Most've the ones I've tried have been primarily aimed at Live installs but have always raped me resources so have usually tried to install 'em properly. Usually worth it but a bit of a faff for Linux noobs. Usually involve pretty top-notch softwarez though
BecomingJulie
Bluelight Crew
Debian and Gentoo I'd rate as so similar that, if you're already used to one, then the other will have little to offer you.
What Debian is good for, is customising -- hence Ubuntu, Mint, Raspbian (just for Pi-bakers) and a bunch of variants. I wrote a notifier daemon that works with our systems at work (it listens for messages on a UDP port, originating from the Asterisk server, displays notification bubbles and can start a web browser -- this is fine in practice, as it's all on 192.168 addresses and that port is blocked both ways at the firewall, so you can't remotely RickRoll a user. Not that they'd be able to watch it anyway, our in-house system does not require Flash so it does not get installed. An incoming call to a salesperson's direct-dial in line fires off an AGI script, which sends a notification to the daemon on the recipient's workstation. The caller's details are then displayed on their screen so you can greet them by name, e.g. "Hello, Ms Montoya" straight away), and turned it into.a .deb for installing on workstations. Also made .a deb with no files, just dependencies on the standard desktop software e.g. KDE desktop, OpenOffice.org,Iceweasel web browser (based on Firefox); and a similar one for servers with some useful scripts of mine in it, to simplify box deployment.
What Debian is good for, is customising -- hence Ubuntu, Mint, Raspbian (just for Pi-bakers
) and a bunch of variants. I wrote a notifier daemon that works with our systems at work (it listens for messages on a UDP port, originating from the Asterisk server, displays notification bubbles and can start a web browser -- this is fine in practice, as it's all on 192.168 addresses and that port is blocked both ways at the firewall, so you can't remotely RickRoll a user. Not that they'd be able to watch it anyway, our in-house system does not require Flash so it does not get installed. An incoming call to a salesperson's direct-dial in line fires off an AGI script, which sends a notification to the daemon on the recipient's workstation. The caller's details are then displayed on their screen so you can greet them by name, e.g. "Hello, Ms Montoya" straight away), and turned it into.a .deb for installing on workstations. Also made .a deb with no files, just dependencies on the standard desktop software e.g. KDE desktop, OpenOffice.org,Iceweasel web browser (based on Firefox); and a similar one for servers with some useful scripts of mine in it, to simplify box deployment.
The latter paragraph means nary but nowt to me, I'm afraid 
Programming is summat yet beyond me ken. Am kinda half-hankering after learning but mostly can't be arsed. Undecided if it'd make me better at pooters or worse
EDIT: Gotta say that installing Cinnamon has maybe sped things up slightly... but more than 4-5 tabs open and it's 10m+ to switch between 'em
Programming is summat yet beyond me ken. Am kinda half-hankering after learning but mostly can't be arsed. Undecided if it'd make me better at pooters or worse
EDIT: Gotta say that installing Cinnamon has maybe sped things up slightly... but more than 4-5 tabs open and it's 10m+ to switch between 'em
tragiclemming
Bluelighter
A window manager should be responsive and keep out of the way. I prefer xfce, but e17 (enlightenment) if quite nice if you want a bit of bling.
Runs nicely on atom powered netbooks
Runs nicely on atom powered netbooks
Roger Fedora? Bwahahahahahahaahah
In desktop/WM thingy news, think I might have to experiment a bit more to see if I can find one that doesn't slow down as much when using FF with a few tabs open. Cinnamon seems to be fine for most things I do but still struggles a bit when FF is being used more than at bare minimum. Although not really sure why it would. Might be more that FF is the problem so might have a fiddle about with other browsers. Am so used to FF I tend to find alternatives annoy me though. Methinks I need a stim session sometime soon - can happily spend hours on end faffing about getting the "perfect" set-up when suitably chemically enhanced
In desktop/WM thingy news, think I might have to experiment a bit more to see if I can find one that doesn't slow down as much when using FF with a few tabs open. Cinnamon seems to be fine for most things I do but still struggles a bit when FF is being used more than at bare minimum. Although not really sure why it would. Might be more that FF is the problem so might have a fiddle about with other browsers. Am so used to FF I tend to find alternatives annoy me though. Methinks I need a stim session sometime soon - can happily spend hours on end faffing about getting the "perfect" set-up when suitably chemically enhanced
1024
Bluelighter
Running Debian testing over here, found it more stable than ubuntu which is bleeding edge, can get apps from sid (the unstable branch) but doubt i will. Shammy if you want to get into programming try bash scripting, it's what all the files in /etc are written in. It's not a full blown programming enviorment, like c++ or java, but nice to play with.
I might give that a go, Squeegee. Don't really like Chrome but Chromium has less of the associated iffiness from memory and definitely does run quicker. Is just a matter of adapting really, I suppose. Am old so new things irk me sometimes :D
1024: That's not a bad idea actually. It's not so much that I'd like to get into programming as that I'd like to be less wary of things I stumble across - specifically when stimmed. Some of the terminology used seems specifically designed to cause paranoia so would be nice to have more of an idea of what some of it actually means to avoid said paranoia. And learning new things is always good anyway.
1024: That's not a bad idea actually. It's not so much that I'd like to get into programming as that I'd like to be less wary of things I stumble across - specifically when stimmed. Some of the terminology used seems specifically designed to cause paranoia so would be nice to have more of an idea of what some of it actually means to avoid said paranoia. And learning new things is always good anyway.
jancrow
Bluelighter
I found that chromium did bad things to my (lowish spec) ubuntu laptop and that ff was more forgiving overall. Guess your acreage could fluctuate though.