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need some tips for first lsd experinece

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amook

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Hi.
Iam going to try LSD next week . but iam nervous about it . which i understand its normal . but most of these nervousness and anxiety comes from my experiences with weed . used to smoke cannabis for long time but 2 years ago i had intense panic attack over it .
since then whenever i somke too much i get anxitey . and it affected me in away that I think all psychedelics will give me panic attacks . but i want to try lsd so bad at the same time.

my biggest fear is not from when iam high on lsd but from the first 30 min after you take the hit. and all the negative thinking untill it hits me. i fear i build up stress and lsd trigger the panic attack, (or maybe it do opposite and kill all the anxieties.
i search alot about its visual effects and dont think that will scare me. so my question is how do u cope with first 30 min and also is panic attack from lsd same as weed ? or is it compeletly different and easy to deal with

cheers
 
I would suggest starting with a very low dose and working your way up over a number of months until you find comfortable territory. That way you will learn the landscape and become a master of tripping rather than letting the chemical become the master of you. A lot of it is about learning to let go, being able to have negative thoughts, learn from them and move on. The biggest enemy you have is your trepidation and working up slowly will allow you to conquer it.

Also be aware of setting. Make sure you are in a comfortable environment around people you trust and can let yourself go in front of. If there aren't any people in your life like that, consider tripping on your own until you know the landscape. For some people, this is much easier, for some it's a mad idea. Ask yourself which camp you fall into.
 
thanks for the reply . i was thinking about taking low dose too but again i heard it from some of my friends who tried it they say you dont feel it if you for example take half a blotter. but i dont know . maybe for first time i dont suppose to feel anything like weed . so for a first timer how much is low dose ? is half okay or should i go lower ?
 
They might not feel it but you are different. What's better? Having a trip that's so mild that you hardly feel it. Then next time you up your dose with the confidence that it's not going to be too much. Or taking too much for your personal circumstances/neurochemistry, not being able to handle it and tainting any further experiences with the fear of another difficult trip.

No doubt it won't be long before someone turns up here telling you to take a super large dose (the implication being that (s)he must be super tough and impressive to be behaving that way themselves). Ignore it though. The best piece of advice that anyone is ever going to give you about psychedelics is this: Know, trust, and love your self. Be confident enough with your own decisions not to be swayed by peer pressure. Prepare mentally before and take the time after to integrate any lessons before tripping again.
 
I find low doses to be considerably more anxiogenic than 'normal' dosages when using psychedelics. I find the panic attack state to be much easier to deal with on LSD than on marijuana. On LSD, you can be moved from a bad headspace to a good one pretty quickly.

But I say this a lot - it might seem like a strange theory, but i honestly believe that the dosage, especially for the first time tripping, should be an average dose within the normal range of common experience. For mushrooms, the first time tripper should take the most common amount, which I would say is probably 1/8th. With LSD, it's hard to know exact dosage but generally you want to take the amount that the average person is taking of that batch. Few people tend to over or underdo it but there is usually a certain amount of tab or tabs that provides the intended results, ask around.

I feel that dosing too low gives a limbo-type effect.

For example, on a given batch of LSD i can get very different results with dosage. If i take 1/2 a tab for instance, then I will basically feel the uncomfortable and edgy come up feelings basically up until i start coming down. Whereas 1-2 tabs will give me a short come up and a long plateau (which is where the goodness is felt). There's no breakthrough happening on the 1/2 tab dose and therefore the drug feels like more of an adrenergic stimulant at that amount. It's like waiting for something to happen, on edge for hours. The same goes for DMT and mushrooms, take too little and it's all slope, no plateau. I also think that many people sort of use psychedelics in this way purposely as more of just a change from the usual, but low dosages are in no way psychedelic to me, just different and weird.

Anyway, don't let your reaction to marijuana have any effect on how you feel about LSD. They are quite different. The fact is that if you are interested in LSD to the point of planning out an experience, which you have clearly given thought to since it is still a week away (which will give time for excitement to build) and you have a good setting where you cannot be bothered by weather, people, or electronic devices, then the chances of having a really good experience are very high. I just wouldn't want it to be ruined by the slope-game.

And as for visuals, don't expect them. They are a side effect that come with certain intense emotional states while tripping and aren't necessarily experienced by everybody.

The first 30 minutes or come up phase is in my opinion best spent with eyes closed either sitting or laying down right after dropping the tab/s. You just try to clear your mind - that is a good approach. The come up phase has a lot to do with the nature of the rest of your trip, so it's best just to go in with very little on your mind. I think that using distractions sort of defeats the purpose of tripping in general but for me i like the more thoughtful and 'magical' aspects of psychedelics so it may be different for others. Best way to think about it is, I like to meditate for the come up and open my eyes to a whole new world. Concentrating on how and when it is going to kick in isn't conducive to the experience, and the come up doesn't even need to be experienced if certain methods are used.
 
Pay a lot of attention to your set and setting, maybe even approach it with some rituals. You might think "rituals? what the hell are they worth to me?" but trust me, it is a way to program yourself in a psychological way.
Mind you, I don't mean that you should be a control freak about everything because that can be part of the problem. Be considerate about your preparations, and let it all go as soon as you start. Make that transition by actions that are meaningful to you. For example: clean up before you trip. A tidy space can bring peace of mind. And it can be very symbolic, whether that is your intention or not. Do you understand what I'm getting at? There are many more things you can do, and it matters only partially what they are, but it works better if it has your full attention and that of your intentions... one of the more important things is that you tell yourself that it matters to you.

While you pay so much attention to your intentions you can convince yourself to have faith. Everything will be fine, because when it comes down to it when you get your set and setting right you are safe, just like I assume you are when you don't trip. There is nothing to worry about, you are needlessly confusing yourself and driving yourself into panic - many people are that way. But a lot of people don't see it because they distract theirselves from morning to evening.
Techniques that can work not to get worked up can be based on Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The principles are not extremely difficult: when you feel yourself becoming anxious or getting other negative feelings, you evaluate whether they have any real basis. When you see that they don't you move on. When you see that some things do, you accept them or note that you can take the time to work on that. But stressing about the fact that you have not put it behind you, or that you cannot change it instantaneously is futile. It will get you nowhere. Either see that you can calmly work on things when there is time, or accept that you cannot change anything about it. Ignoring it and leaving it to stew in doubt, that can pent up inside you. Let it out. Let it go.

Yes there are plenty of pitfalls before you get the hang of this, but you can take it easy by starting with very low doses and working your way up (as is mentioned before) or by practicing meditation or mindfulness exercises. Low doses can be anxiogenic, but part of that can certainly be the uncertain feelings that come with the limbo between tripping and not tripping. It shows that you are basically uncomfortable with being on your own doing nothing. In most cases the issues are the same issues that arise with people who just started with meditation.

Learning to be at peace with yourself is the key, because tripping on LSD can bring things to the surface that can make you either more at peace or more awkward and anxious. It is a form of involuntary meditation, at least part of it. I can attest to that after having meditated for a week on a Zen retreat. It was very similar to an LSD experience.
 
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""The principles are not extremely difficult: when you feel yourself becoming anxious or getting other negative feelings, you evaluate whether they have any real basis ...""
Iv done this for weed. for 2 years and still get anxious on weed . these Techniques definitly helped me to deal with anxitey on weed but never eliminated it .
but iv learnt from other post and people that this technique will work with lsd since when u are on lsd its easier to distract your thoughts . is it something that you are agree with?

and about set and setting , we are going to take it in Snowdonia wales near mountains and lakes (Very beautiful place) with couple of friends and one of them is also first timer . (i wish i could do it alone for the first time but i think its not a good idea for someone with my conditions)
 
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Hey man don't worry. Get yourself in an environment that's comfortable to you. Have some buddy's that you've known for awhile and can trust. Those nervous thoughts are all in your head. Trust me acid will be ok if you let it be ok. That's it. The only problem I could see is coming down, especially if it's your first experience with psychedelics the come down can be a little unpleasant. Anxiety and a feeling of...insignificance I want to say, maybe a little sorrow. I haven't seen it often but just in case, get a benzo such as xanax, you can even use seroquel or trazedone. Just something to relax you IF needed. Good luck you'll have fun.
 
amook said:
Hi.
Iam going to try LSD next week . but iam nervous about it . which i understand its normal . but most of these nervousness and anxiety comes from my experiences with weed . used to smoke cannabis for long time but 2 years ago i had intense panic attack over it .
since then whenever i somke too much i get anxitey . and it affected me in away that I think all psychedelics will give me panic attacks . but i want to try lsd so bad at the same time.

my biggest fear is not from when iam high on lsd but from the first 30 min after you take the hit. and all the negative thinking untill it hits me. i fear i build up stress and lsd trigger the panic attack, (or maybe it do opposite and kill all the anxieties.
i search alot about its visual effects and dont think that will scare me. so my question is how do u cope with first 30 min and also is panic attack from lsd same as weed ? or is it compeletly different and easy to deal with

cheers
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It is completely normal to have these thoughts, you will shortly realize after taking your first hit that you are in a comfortable place and if you relax and let it hit you will have a good time, set and setting is key, and test kits are always recommended, clear thinking can always help with a good experience as long as you have real L.
 
amook said:
Hi.
Iam going to try LSD next week . but iam nervous about it . which i understand its normal . but most of these nervousness and anxiety comes from my experiences with weed . used to smoke cannabis for long time but 2 years ago i had intense panic attack over it .
since then whenever i somke too much i get anxitey . and it affected me in away that I think all psychedelics will give me panic attacks . but i want to try lsd so bad at the same time.

my biggest fear is not from when iam high on lsd but from the first 30 min after you take the hit. and all the negative thinking untill it hits me. i fear i build up stress and lsd trigger the panic attack, (or maybe it do opposite and kill all the anxieties.
i search alot about its visual effects and dont think that will scare me. so my question is how do u cope with first 30 min and also is panic attack from lsd same as weed ? or is it compeletly different and easy to deal with

cheers
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My favorite thing to do is put a thick warm blanket on me and call a friend who's a tripper and just tell them whats going on if I have start having a bad trip. Both of these are a good reality lifeline that can make you feel better about everything.
 
I second the phoning a friend option. Helped me on my second 2C-E trip when I started experiencing visuals 1 hour after ingestion, it usually took me at least 2 hours to experience visuals on it, so I knew this time the dose I weighed meant I was in for a nice trip.(38mgs)

With my LSD experience, I was in nature in the perfect setting on the 4th of July. It was an amazing experience. Me and a friend were tripping, the other 3 people were very drunk and my girlfriend was sober. I would say to be around people you are familiar with/trust and you should be fine. Do not try and fight the trip though, as the trip will more than likely win. We both had an amazing afterglow experience for 2 days after where everything we did just seemed so new/fresh. Being out in the hot sun the day after we tripped was amazing. Sitting in the river drinking a beer, amazing. Those 3 days were so great it is almost impossible to put into words. We both only split one tab, so I am assuming it was a 200mcg/ well dosed blotter as it came from a very reliable source. I would recommend doing it in nature, it just seems like it is so much fun being outdoors than being inside, though I never have done LSD inside. No nasty after effects or side effects while tripping either. Possibly the best trip we've ever had, even though it was not the most visual. Had we each taken one tab, it definitely would have been a lot more visual.
 
In my opinion you should take 1-2 tabs. I also experience the same thing you go through, but not anymore. I'd have panic attacks from smoking weed, and have anxiety. I love lsd, it's one of my favorite drugs.
Just have a benzo on hand in case you start tripping too hard, but don't take it before it'll just lessen your trip. Only take it if it's getting too intense for you.

My first time tripping, I took a half a tab because I was scared. I immediately loved it and wish I had taken more, but lsd doesn't work like that. You'd have to double or triple dose in order to get a stronger trip and it's not worth it money wise.
I trip alone and haven't had any bad trips. Just remember you took lsd and you will be fine, enjoy it and put a smile on that face.
 
amook said:
Hi.
Iam going to try LSD next week . but iam nervous about it . which i understand its normal . but most of these nervousness and anxiety comes from my experiences with weed . used to smoke cannabis for long time but 2 years ago i had intense panic attack over it .
since then whenever i somke too much i get anxitey . and it affected me in away that I think all psychedelics will give me panic attacks . but i want to try lsd so bad at the same time.

my biggest fear is not from when iam high on lsd but from the first 30 min after you take the hit. and all the negative thinking untill it hits me. i fear i build up stress and lsd trigger the panic attack, (or maybe it do opposite and kill all the anxieties.
i search alot about its visual effects and dont think that will scare me. so my question is how do u cope with first 30 min and also is panic attack from lsd same as weed ? or is it compeletly different and easy to deal with

cheers
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This is all completely natural and does not mean you will have a bad time. Just take one hit for starters and no more, MAKE SURE to do some research before hand on identifying real LSD ( Just because your dealer will tell you it is real does not mean that it is ), History and uses of LSD, and LSD safety, knowing the truth and doing research will insure a safer, better experience.
 
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