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Screenplays.

I always wondered how you direct the action in words or portray how the visual side should look using words.

Does it work like this?:

Character 1: Look out!

A helicopter then crashes into the top of the tunnel and sparks and shit fly all into the camera bouncing around, the camera wobbles on impact.

Cuts back to inside the train.

Character 1: Don't shoot.

A bullet is fired at Character 1 and it goes all slow and stuff and zooms into the bullet until it penetrates Character 1's skull all slow like and there are bone smashing sounds and it looks well cool with big long strings of blood spraying from the impact area.

Or is the visual side left down to the director to interpret?
 
It's hard work, but it is enjoyable once I get into a bit of a swing, I had to do a bit of research for this part though that I just wrote as it was the dialogue for a 999 call and wanted to get the operators side correct, this site was quite helpful with that.

I definitely need to read more screenplays though, I just spent 2 hours of almost uninterrupted writing and thinking and got about 10 pages down, which in screenplay terms is 10 minutes of screen time, so not too bad I guess. It's gonna be a long way to get it finished, the first draft even, and then drafting it at least 3 more times after that to perfect it.

Have you written screenplays before? any chance you fancy sharing some of your work. I'll give you a glimpse of mine when I finish the first draft, I don't want to give too much away before the first draft is finished as it will change so much between then and the finished product.

I definitely need to read a lot more screenplays of films in a similar genre to the one I'm writing, and some just by great writers so I can get some more influence other than trying to do it without looking at other work, I don't want to steal their work, but just be inspired by it maybe, kind of like how bands say who their inspirations are and stuff.

Yeah tis defo hard to get into at first, my ex was trying to write one recently and was pretty cool to look through that from an editor's perspective rather than a writer's. Reading more is good but I know what ya mean about the influences, I always get worried about that when I'm doing owt creative, which isn't as often as I'd like it to be to be honest.

I will happily share if I find any I wrote, I studied film at college for two years so did a fair bit of writing in that vein, you're actually making me wanna start writing one again but I'm shite with ideas, just like writing. Me and aforementioned ex keep saying we should collaborate on something as she's an ideas girl n I'm more...write-y. Would defo love to see your first draft aye, so get cracking :D

edit: Tend to have 'stage directions' and what not, Ben, but a lot of it can be left up to interpretation, otherwise you're kinda writing a book. Is hard to get into the knack of it tho
 
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It's a bit of both Ben, there is a generally accepted format for all screenplays, and you are not meant to get too much into detail about the action, but still write enough in the descriptions to give the reader a clear view of what you want to happen in the film. I'm using special screenplay writing software so it makes it a lot easier to write than doing it straight onto MSWord.

It's fun, but can be hard to show the visual aspects with a script that has so much dialogue, the latter parts of the script will have less dialogue, the dialogue will mostly be voiceovered with the psychotic mugz walking around the city in a messed up state, so I'll have to describe what mugz is seeing through his voiceover dialogue.

Each new scene generally gets a bit more of an introduction as to the visual aspect too.

Yeah tis defo hard to get into at first, my ex was trying to write one recently and was pretty cool to look through that from an editor's perspective rather than a writer's. Reading more is good but I know what ya mean about the influences, I always get worried about that when I'm doing owt creative, which isn't as often as I'd like it to be to be honest.

I will happily share if I find any I wrote, I studied film at college for two years so did a fair bit of writing in that vein, you're actually making me wanna start writing one again but I'm shite with ideas, just like writing. Me and aforementioned ex keep saying we should collaborate on something as she's an ideas girl n I'm more...write-y. Would defo love to see your first draft aye, so get cracking :D

I'm not sure I want anyone to see the whole lot until the second draft is done to be honest, as the first draft will have a lot of errors, but I am gonna set aside between 2-5 hours a day now for writing, so I should be able to get a first draft done pretty soon, then I'll show you the second draft, as long as you don't go steal it from me and sell it ;)
 
Oh right that's interesting. The director really has a lot of influence on the final visual impact and style of the film then.

Quite important to get a decent one that understands what the screenplay is trying to portray then.

The collaboration between director and writer is very important going on what you have said.
 
hence why a lot of writers direct their own films, I don't think I'll try and direct this film, but I will want to be on set as a consultant for the making of it when it gets that far if it does.
 
It's a bit of both Ben, there is a generally accepted format for all screenplays, and you are not meant to get too much into detail about the action, but still write enough in the descriptions to give the reader a clear view of what you want to happen in the film. I'm using special screenplay writing software so it makes it a lot easier to write than doing it straight onto MSWord.

It's fun, but can be hard to show the visual aspects with a script that has so much dialogue, the latter parts of the script will have less dialogue, the dialogue will mostly be voiceovered with the psychotic mugz walking around the city in a messed up state, so I'll have to describe what mugz is seeing through his voiceover dialogue.

Each new scene generally gets a bit more of an introduction as to the visual aspect too.



I'm not sure I want anyone to see the whole lot until the second draft is done to be honest, as the first draft will have a lot of errors, but I am gonna set aside between 2-5 hours a day now for writing, so I should be able to get a first draft done pretty soon, then I'll show you the second draft, as long as you don't go steal it from me and sell it ;)

I'll try not to ;) I think the way screenplays are written helps a lot with the whole developing ideas and sorting out your thoughts thing, but maybe that's because I'm dyspraxic and have huge problems with that aspect of life. Definitely a good skill to have, has helped me a lot even tho I'm not in media at the moment. Debating it though.
 
Ah yeah that's a point, I've never done owt autobiographical; the parts of my life that are the most interesting are the ones I don't remember. Fiction is a mission, aye.
 
I imagine writing pure fiction would be harder.

Fiction is a mission, aye.

From my extremely limited knowledge and zero experience of such things (just voicing this to keep the convo going really) I've never attempted to write a novel or a screenplay but I would say don't you have a lot more freedom to express emotions and what characters are thinking and have an unlimited amount of time to describe what you should visualise with a novel than you do with a screenplay which a lot is left to the director to get actors to express such things using facial expressions and tone of voice etc.?

Just a thought.
 
From my extremely limited knowledge and zero experience of such things (just voicing this to keep the convo going really) I've never attempted to write a novel or a screenplay but I would say don't you have a lot more freedom to express emotions and what characters are thinking and have an unlimited amount of time to describe what you should visualise with a novel than you do with a screenplay which a lot is left to the director to get actors to express such things using facial expressions and tone of voice etc.?

Just a thought.

There's two sides to it, I guess. On the one hand you do have the license to go into detail with a novel and whatnot, but with a screenplay, the conciseness of it can actually be just as detailed, in a weird way. That's a shit way of putting it, I dunno if I'm getting across what I mean, but yeah a lot can be left to the director too, it's hard to say as I've only worked on small projects. That's why you get a lot of directors who write their own shit as Mugzy said, I suppose.
 
Hard day at the office.

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Nice haha juicy
 
That's a problem I will have to deal with when it's finished, I try not to think about that too much at the moment, there is a cool website http://www.kickstarter.com/ for trying to get funding for indie films and other projects, I'm gonna take it to channel 4 first though.

Ok - let's say you've got an audience with the Commissioning Editor.. you've got 15 seconds to sell this movie.
Give us your pitch.
 
Ok - let's say you've got an audience with the Commissioning Editor.. you've got 15 seconds to sell this movie.
Give us your pitch.

I'd say read the trip report that comes along with the movie and imagine it on the big screen, It's a tragic story of accidental psychosis amongst a young couple experimenting dangerously with legal highs and research chemicals. The internal monologue of a psychotic male trying to do the best he can under difficult circumstances.

Or something like that, dunno, haven't though about pitching it yet.
 
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