DMT Peaceful Blackout -What happened?

[lambaa]

Two days ago, a friend of mine gave me some synthetic DMT to smoke.

I smoked it out of an ice pipe, and began hallucinating within seconds. I forgot what my friend told me about keeping it in for a bit after the hallucinations start, so I breathed it all out. That is the last thing I remember.

I woke up laying down, feeling excellent and couldn't stop smiling, letting the 'psychedelic feeling' pass over me.

My friend, who was sitting with me, said I opened my eyes about 5 minutes in, and he said something to me and I responded 'what?', then closed my eyes again and didn't open them until about 10 or 15 minutes later, when I started laying there and smiling.

I have absolutely no recollection of speaking to my friend or anything I experienced while my eyes were closed, and I felt almost like I woke up from a long, restful sleep.

Has this ever happened to anyone before, and what might have happened? Is it possible I actually did just fall asleep.....? Seems rather implausible. Or does anyone have ways of jogging memory to recollect psychedelic experiences?

Thanks!

 

[blazR]

You propably smoked "too much" DMT, broke through but can't remember.. It happens to a lot of people as far as I understand.

Try a smaller dose

(if the dose is big enough you don't have to hold it very long in the lungs, but you can achieve the same effect with a smaller dose and holding it in)

 

[johannes kreisler]

are you sure about the nature of your compound? what people call "synthetic DMT" is in fact often 5-MeO-DMT...

 

[lambaa]

are you sure about the nature of your compound? what people call "synthetic DMT" is in fact often 5-MeO-DMT...

I'm not sure. My location in the world makes it very difficult to determine exactly what it is. I've gotten some very questionable substances claiming to be something else, but I've more often than not gotten very clean substances that seem to be what they've been claimed to be. The crystals were a little yellowed in color, which I've heard regular old DMT to be.

I suppose if it was indeed 5-MeO-DMT, that might support what blazR mentioned, that I might have smoked too much. The doses were separated into gel caps and we put 1 and a half in the pipe, since they were about 2 years old and the crystals were sticking to the sides of the gel cap (couldn't get it all out).

 

[TryptamineBunny]

I dont think it was 5-meo, as you had no sign of negative effects, which I would imagine (and no more authorative than that) would be impossible with 5-meo.

The yellowing is the oxidation effect of the white crystals being exposed to air and happens very quickly, it is not an indicator of old age.

Must be quite odd having no recollection of an extreme psychedelic experience, have not encountered this myself. If I were you I would take interest in any 'integration' thoughts you may have over the coming days, perhaps making detailed notes about profound thoughts etc. It is this phase where all the beneficial aspects take place, and such efforts may reveal some of the lost memories in unusual ways.

 

[Solipsis]

Of what nature were the hallucinations?

I personally don't really get very negative effects from 5-MeO-DMT so it's not impossible and it is not like you can tell by the color.

Whichever one it was, as is said this is typical for taking too much.

 

[lamanogaucha]

I'm in China as well. 5-MeO-DMT is far more "commonly" found than DMT due to the fact that the former is legal while the latter is not. I speculate that what you took was 5-MeO-DMT, as the risks of getting caught for illegally importing, producing, distributing or consuming DMT are much too high (i.e. a very long or permanent prison sentence, or a swiftly carried out death sentence, depending on the amount of material involved and/or to whom it was distributed).

My advice -- and I strongly suggest that you heed it -- is that you stay 100% clear of anyone that offers you DMT for free or for sale. If you choose to use psychedelics in the PRC -- even the legal ones (and most are) -- keep it entirely to yourself and perhaps one or two people that you literally trust with your life. Further, do not import such drugs, as that is illegal; your purchases of legal psychedelics should be from local laboratories only, and it would be prudent to always keep such purchases at 1 gram or less in order to be on the safe side. In sum, be ultra-careful -- "laowai", male or female, are not immune to the law regarding this matter. (I assume that you are not a local; if you are, all apologies, but be even more careful.)

I'm attaching an official list of all scheduled drugs in mainland China as of 2007. I got it from an all-Chinese government website, so you can rely on it. The list has expanded a bit since (e.g. 4-HO-MET appears to have been added), but it is still almost identical regarding psychedelic drugs. There is currently no "analogue act" and to my knowledge there are no plans for such in the near future.

Mods: I'm sorry for my speculation at the start of this post and for getting rather off-topic, but I think that saying all of this is very important. I hope that you agree. Cheers.

Edit: In view that users cannot post Word documents on BL, I'm here including a link to the 2005 list of scheduled drugs in mainland China. The 2007 list that I was going to attach contains only four additional entries; the latest list contains perhaps another six.

http://law.pharmnet.com.cn/topic/detail_749.html

 

[lambaa]

lamanogaucha, 非常感谢! Thanks for the document and the info, it is indeed important information. Are you in the capital?

So its looking like what I took was indeed 5-MeO-DMT, and perhaps it was a bit too much, hence the blackout. If I get the chance again, maybe a halved dose would be sufficient...

Thanks everyone.

 

[lamanogaucha]

I'm glad to be of help.

Keep in mind that we are only *speculating* about the material being 5-MeO-DMT, and that speculation (i.e. drug identification) is in fact not kosher on BL. That said, you should get back to Solipsis regarding the nature of the hallucinations you experienced (if you can remember). This could help in "determining" if the material was 5-MeO-DMT or DMT. Either way, since this was not something you purchased and/or tested, I suggest, in the interest of harm reduction and legal compliance, that you no longer use it if offered again.

I'm usually in the interior. Are you local or "waiguoren"?

 

[amanitadine]

It seems rather premature to assume it was 5- MeO just because you blacked out. I black out half the time I smoke DMT, and the other half is either pretty fractals and whatnot, or a complete" breakthrough". I'd say I actually "breakthrough" less than 25% of the time. I get plenty high on the other non black out attempts, but don't "pierce the chrysanthemum veil" to that timeless magical place.

Most importantly, how much did you smoke? 5-MeO is about ten times more potent than DMT, requiring 5-10 mg for a full experience, versus 50-100 mg for DMT. 5-MeO has a pronounced "fear" about it as well, albeit still an amazing substance. I've heard 5-MeO described as the "power" and DMT as the "glory" which is quite apt IMO.