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European Heroin Discussion v We like noise, it's our choice (v.17)

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yes its the mix of drugs that does me in - took me about an hour to post that utter bollox laqst night but i think its more honest to leave it as it is and it would be impossible to rectify in the state i was in. i never have problems sleeping on gear unless it has an over high content of caffeine but then blue wil always pass me out - i just have to make sure i clear up b4 i relax in to my mega gouch. Must me strong gear as i bought 2g's on sat and still have about 1/2g left and it holds you for hours probably 12 or so.

Got enough for a sesh tonight and a smoke innthe morning plus x4 oxy's left then back on a rapid 'done detox before i get some dosh in a couple of weeks tho i still have 30 quid or so that i will use when it all gets too much but the methadone detox is a piece of piss start on 70 this time as the gear was stronger and by the time i get more cash i will be down to 5-10mgs with no tollerance..........something to look forward to plus i like a break as i really dont like having a habit . gets boring and the high is vastly weakend.

what are people paying for proper gear - honestly !!
 
Yes but I have had IV morphine and that kept me awake, just like smoking gear, so not so sure about the caffeine reason for keeping you awake :\

Was in hospital btw, got over 130 mg IV from waking up, where I got 30mg very quickly. Then got through 100mg with one of those machines which gives it to you when you press a button. Was lush! %)
 
it maybe that your body is in such a deep state of relaxation that it doesnt feel the need to sleep - I could smoke all night long if i wanted just light up each time i come out of a gouch - could be histamine realese irratating you ive scratched my self to blood in the past but normally after a time off the gear, same as staying up, i stay awake long time if i havent used for a few weeks/moth

btw those self medicating machines have a limit on them so you can only use a certain amount over a period of time - to stop OD's obv. 100mgs of morhine would hardly touch the sides with the habit i have right now....trying telling that to a doc tho!
 
Yeah I believe it was 2mg every 5 minutes. So no rush but bloody hell I was mellow. Had got off subutex 3 months before, so I had low tolerance, but just blagged for more! I had the best fag when I was allowed out.

Well whatever the reason it can always be defeated with a Valium or two.

@ cornishman I had a mate all his veins were gone, he had to go to hospital for heart problems, he needed to be given medication IV. He said the used some machine to find a vein and somehow get a IV needle set up. So what they used for him I guess. Sorry can't be more precise, but can't remember fully, but it can be done!

Stupidly he stopped treatment, died half year later as blood clot went to his brain :|
 
Ay Up Chaps and Chapettes;

Its been a long time since I last posted here, although last few weeks Ive been back, spying on y'all ;)
So last time I posted around Oct, I'd just met a local hookup which saved me a 6 hour round trip if I wanted to score, tho instead of buying a Q it was just bags. Was a little worried about using daily again as a result of this local connect; well I was right to be worried. He also sells white which I hadnt touched for YEARS before meeting him. Alas, what started out as a once or twice weekly treat soon turned into a daily routine, which got worse when I separated from my mrs and moved into a shared house. So yeah, I was spending avg £50 a night on dark and light though work was steady so I had the dough, coupled with the fact I found (yes, genuinely found) some thing/s which turned out to be worth £2500, but that's another story. I'd kinda forgotten what having a daily habit was like, scoring every day, and now a crack habit too, something new to me.
To cut a long story short I've been doing that for months, fucking stupidity. I was happy enough scoring a Q of nice gear once a month and having a couple weeks clean in between, but I had to fuck it up. The one saving grace though, despite coming very close to finishing for good, me and the mrs went away for a weekend last week, got on like a house on fire and re kindled our romance, and have been inseparable since, which also meant I've not used anything for a week and a half, till tonight.

I also gave up smoking 3 weeks ago, after some 18 years, which I am thrilled about and was beginning to doubt I'd ever do. Had the worst chest infection ever and so just stopped cold turkey one night, and havent looked back. Dare say its been easy. But the shite I'm coughing up every day tho still, yuck! Kinda satisfying and motivating tho.

On topic, the gear has been fairly consistently alright in Nottinum, have had very few complaints. But out the blue just before xmas though, I scored as usual one eve and fuck me if it wasn't the best gear I think I've ever had. Didnt look unusual, on the jimmy it melted dark black and didnt chase perfectly, leaving little bits of ash and dark trails. Ive noticed this a few times with some of the better gear I've had-it dont run quite as well, praps cos there less cut in it. Anyway, it was also dead harsh and so bitter, couldnt smoke more than one line at a time. Thought it was shite initially. But then I thought 'Fuck me that brought me down quickly off the stone', and next thing Im out. It normally takes a lot to make me gouch but I was nodding like a mofo, periodically waking to the sound of the jimmy hitting the floor, leaning sideways and all kinds of shit. This on top of me 50ml meth that morning too. Plus the lovely gack that accumulated on my teeth and on the tooter too, proper rancid fishy oil. Didnt even finish my tray that night, from 2 bags-got home from work the next day and had another toot and was gouched after maybe 3 lines. Unbelievable. Went to pick up 12 bags later that night for xmas, fuckin danced on :X Well, not bashed, reckon it was just mixed with another weaker gear, could still taste it and it was still well above average, but diluted none the less :(

Since then Ive barely been able to stop thinkin bout that gear, wishing it was always available. Wonder how that batch slipped through the net, right down to the shotters? If only they knew, Id pay fuckin quadrouple at least for gear like that.

Thats about it for me, I could go on due to 1st stone smoked for couple weeks, but will chill. Hello to you all, good to see you posting JSpun loved that story about you and ur mate and the 2 hookers in ur truck outside that strip joint! And hello to Mr Brimz, Pinky, Strungout, Max, Ructs (where are you?), Charlie, Louie etc etc & anyone else!

Peace

PS Great to hear Kkat is coming outta the nick very soon, good for her :)
 
Cornish
Does anyone know what they do with prisoners on death row who are junkies. Sentenced to death via lethal injection, but have no veins?

I gotta a story- there was a man sentenced to death by lethal injection- cant remember his mane but he dressed like a clown and lured his victims in- killed alot of kids. Anyway, for his execution he had shit veins- an IV was stated but inflitrated. Usually they use a cocktail of Na Pentahol (to put them out, I forget what else and potassium to stop there heart. Well potassium causes phlebitis (burns peoples veins anyway- but they get it in high concentration in lethal injections). Anyway his IV infiltrated, he was in excruciating pain, they got another one in and got the job done- used by human rights groups as an example of the inhumanity of lethal injection. But he wasny a junkie, just shit access.

Wcote sounds like some kind of ultrasound- IV nurses use it routinely. By the way, it has been documented that people in severe pain can get to sleep when pain is managed, same with people with habits getting right, people without, caffeine or not, might nod but usally experience insomnia- this is a classic phenomena

Blondin I envy you mate

Papaversom Good to here from you, I got into a different type of white this time- methamphetamines. But its a trip, during this run, I got dope that left residue, seemed like shit but gotta be a good gouch, and gear, the classic, light trail, no residue, and the good shit around here has a nice floral taste on the foil.

Anyway, glad you liked my story, shouldn't be naive, but they probaly were whores, blondy did leave a little wet spot on my jeans before our party was interupted quite abruptly- they probaly were hoes but I like to think that, this is back in 95'... they did just want to chill and... well probaly naive... Atleast I'm sure they wanted to get high.

By the way, my friend that was with me, Mattias, died of an overdose back in 2003.

Hey Papaversom sounds like you were on a good one. Wish I gotta hold of some coke, found out were the open air for crack was but somehow stayed away- thats another story. Is that fish oil taste a sign of quality? Here its floral and bitter medicine- signs of good dope. Vinegartaste is secondary, sweet sickly shit that burns your throught is the worst.

Papaversom
 
Lucky you didn't die


Potency was lower than I'd initially thought, probably because I was benzo's up to the eyeballs when I tried it.

I would have thought after nearly killing yourself a while back you might practise Harm Reduction .
 
I don't know if your taking the piss or not tbh . Look it's serious biznizz is Heroin so maybe not a good thread to be joking in . I have no problem qith you mate .
I'm just trying to look out for you as sometimes your attitude to dangerous drugs comes across as very Reckless .

I'm just trying to spread a bit of Harm Reduction that's all .
 
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Retrospective analysis of most recent batch of heroin (first Thai smack I try)

I have to say that although this stuff is obviously an inferior synth to Cambodian smack, which has no smell and is rock-hard and pure white, whereas this stuff has a vinegary smell (incidating acetic acid synth by-product wasn't fully washed out) and a very slight beige hue, sort of like very good white MDMA pills. Also the rock (came in rock form) was much softer than the Cambodian stuff. Brittle almost, easily crushed between the finger-tips.

But the high of this stuff, regardless of the lower strength and (perhaps because of) the less refined nature of the smack, was the best I have ever had from heroin. I seriously have to say, oh my fucking God.
Reminiscent of tar heroin - extremely well-rounded, pronounced body-stone with quite heavy histamine release (which is again an indicator of impurities in the heroin, morphine being the obvious culprit) with an almost psychedelic headspace with minor tactile and visual hallucinations. Extremely pronounced euphoria, and rather than deadening/dulling my emotions the way heroin usually does I became far more positive, extroverted and affectionate. The high was very, very long-lasting, again making me think of Tar heroin, which used to be my favourite prior to this. A single 50mg line had me nodding for a full 8 hours, no joke.
Injecting it gave me that lovely taste of dried flowers washing up the back of my throat which I didn't get with Cambodian gear and which, again, I associate with less refined product, but that's not at all a bad thing in my books.

This shit was, quite simply, top-fucking-notch, and I look forward to my next purchase. Rinsed a gram in five days and, 36 hours after my last dose (snorted most of it, shot up 5/6 times) I'm not experiencing the slightest hint of WDs :).

I agree ur a cunt! :p ;) Only joking...nice graphic description, if that doesn't make a fella jealous and get a gear head fiending I dont know what will. The part about the high reminds me of the first time I ever did B, back in 98 or 99 I think. My friend made a spliff at the end of a mad night out and passed it to me, when I queried the fucking peculiar taste he told me it was opium. lol. On the drive home I felt invincible, untouchable, euphoric and incredible. Fuck it'd be good to have a supply of that shit now.

How much did you pay for that gear / amount Pontifex? I've been to thailand once, to Patong with the mrs, Im guessing there isnt much H sold there, am I wrong? The locals who offered me "drugs" constantly never once mentioned heroin, only coke n weed. Not even yaba strangely. This was Patong tho; Im guessing for a Farang who wanted to score in Patong it would only likely end up in a staged bust 'n bribe, better off scoring somewhere less touristy / more rural, am I right?

The gear I had last night was pretty shite, didnt bring me down from the stone. Tho the stone was good-rock hard and good bags 3 for £22.50 weighed in at about 0.45. Gonna try to avoid scoring again for another week or two, mostly due to the fact it aint worth the money and I resent working really hard and being good at something and giving it all my effort to do a top notch job, only to then spend the money lining some little shotter cunts pocket, who doesnt give a fuck about his customers or doing a good job :|
 
Cornish

Anyway, glad you liked my story, shouldn't be naive, but they probaly were whores, blondy did leave a little wet spot on my jeans before our party was interupted quite abruptly- they probaly were hoes but I like to think that, this is back in 95'... they did just want to chill and... well probaly naive... Atleast I'm sure they wanted to get high.

LOL! :D Then I bet it did feel like your party ended too abruptly, just as things were hotting up and u thought ur luck was in! Nightmare
 
I am prepared to forget all about it .

it's just i've lost many people who i care about to Heroin over the last 20 years & the very first one was a lad who was using gear in Thailand in 1993.
That hit a nerve i just want you to be safe ok ?
 
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Glad that's all sorted hate seeing two good lads having the off ♥
Brimz , how's the books son ? As for gear these sides pretty sure it's close to whst our young blondins getting £200 a baller , still quality over quantity.
 
Just on too the 2nd one buddy . Bit harder to get in2 but i'll make an effort as i'm sure it's up my street .
Always good to see you about . I'll shoot you a pm when i finished them .
 
@jspun with tar you need to burn the gear in a pile on the foil slowly so it bubbles and all the acetic acid will boil off tilt slighly when the it starts stopping to boil and the will start to run - if you do it carefully you wont waste any gear just the aa
 
Blondin
@jspun with tar you need to burn the gear in a pile on the foil slowly so it bubbles and all the acetic acid will boil off tilt slighly when the it starts stopping to boil and the will start to run - if you do it carefully you wont waste any gear just the aa

Hey thanks for the advice my man, I'd like to say that I'm done for good...been taking methadone pills every few days and "tapering" but after all these years... well you know the score...could be hooking up the day before next. So anyway, This run I got hard tar, whitch is usually more cut but was nice and floral, got soft tar that you had to put in the freezer, but it was the brown powder, that you have to blow on, that had the acetic taste- never thought of boiling it off and always impatient to get high, back in the bad old days, was a sign of quality, but good advice in the hopefully unlikely but probably likely chance I hook up more dope. Would be nice to get rid of it...kinda leaves an acrid taste in the back of your throat and feel it in your lungs so thanks for the advice!%)

Ponti I admit, I'm jealous. The relaxed euphoria that you mention drew me to opiates. They turned me from an introvert to an extrovert. Anyrate, that floral taste you describe- wonder if the flowers taste similar out here. I have had opium- it was delicious, like some connesieur product, floral, nutty, and hard to decribe, been a long time just remember it tasting heavenly and feeling that I had been transported to heaven- in on of the heavenly dreams. But good mexican tar has a distinct subtle floral taste albeit mixed with bitter medicine taste.

Anyway, I'm guessing the gear is from Burma, wondering if the Cambodian gear comes from the same country, maybe produced by a different separitist insurrgent army. I know that gear production has been ramping up in the region, but I don't think that much is produced in Chiang Mai and throughout the North West like the good old days.

Hey Brimz is right, careful dude... benzos plus low tolerance plus the needle with SE Asian dope- dangerous combo, but I wont beat a dead horse, your still alive and it was a good story, the floral taste in the back of your throat after fixing...makes me salivate.

Don't mean to sound like a yank kook- but I think I understand the term "taking the piss"- means fucking with someone or joking around, not being serious, right?:?
 
Hey, by the way... all the time I spend on this thread... You all think I might qualify to become a subject of her Majesty... anyone willing to sponsor me for UK citizenship?
 
Don't mean to sound like a yank kook- but I think I understand the term "taking the piss"- means fucking with someone or joking around, not being serious, right?:?

Yup.

Hey, by the way... all the time I spend on this thread... You all think I might qualify to become a subject of her Majesty... anyone willing to sponsor me for UK citizenship?

Don't get your hopes up, I live in the UK and don't even have citizenship yet ...
I think 10k posts at least.
 
Blondin

Don't mean to sound like a yank kook- but I think I understand the term "taking the piss"- means fucking with someone or joking around, not being serious, right?:?

You got it in one. Taking the piss / piss taking can mean a few similar things; joking around, insulting someone, teasing or winding someone up or taking advantage of someone; "He's taking the piss, I've been waiting 1 hour for him to turn up, he said he'd be 2 seconds!". Politer versions which mean the same thing include "Taking the biscuit", or "Taking the mickey" or "'Aving a larff / Avin a giraffe"!

We'll turn you into an English gentleman yet, JSP :)

Apparently the conservatives are gonna change the citizenship test. It'll apparently become less fact based and informal, and include more questions about our aspects of culture like Monty Python, Norman Wisdom, Harry Potter etc
 
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