Codeine Cough Syrup Ummm WTF?

[I.C.E.N]

I just want two questions answered but you might want to read all of this so you can understand where I am coming from. You can skip to the bottom if you don't want to read all this.

Well I'm not a big time druggie or nothing the only things I have tried before was weed/alcohol that was all I was doing before and even then I tried to not do those much I probably only smoked weed around 30 times in the past 2-3 years. I only drink if I am somewhere special which is most of the time never only a few times a year. I am not the type to use things for no reason, I personally think if you are using shit all alone curled up at your house everyday you are a lonely sad personal, I'm not saying you can't do anything by yourself but damn when its 24/7 everyday by youself to me thats a sad life because the point should be getting something good out of it meaning fun, party or pain some shit not just ohhhh I think I have nothing better to do O_O

LOL anyways, Yesterday I tried DXM for the first time. I had a soar throat really bad so my doctor gave me DXM, being I have low tolerance I took half of the bottle he gave me of that cough syrup which had DXM in it. Lets rewind back really quick, the first time I took almost half the bottle but all I got was a very very slight drunk buzz that was it, this was my fault though because I did not take it at the same time I spaced it out.
So I tried half a bottle of the DXM this time downing it all at once. I started feeling that drunken buzz again thought oh its just this little buzz like before. So I go to lay down on my bed and started to fall to sleep to waste time. About 15 mintues later I remember I could tell I was feeling weird even with my eyes closed because my head felt sort of slow motion. I remember waking up and everything feeling woozy so I tried walking this time I actually had a good drunk/high feeling. Sort of felt like being drunk/high at the same time. The weird thing is for me when I'm high on weed I can't think logically for a good amount of time, when I'm drunk I can think fine. Even though dxm had me a bit messed up for some reason I could still logically think and do everything like talk/go on google search things up ect lol. The dxm def was kind of suprisingly strong for only taking a little bit of it at once. I have no doubt it will mess your ass up if you take over a bottle or 2 or 3 lol. I would never do that much because I couldn't handle it.

Okay so here is where the codeine cough syrup comes in at. I wanted to get a refill so I called the doctor and the freaking doctor decided to prescribe me codeine cough syrup which I was kind of mad about being I at least knew how to use the other bottle I had now I'll have to learn about this codeine crap.
People online was saying to take around 100mgs of codeine if you have no tolternace it will get you high. Others were saying to take more like 150mg-200mg some even said a bit higher to get a good high.
So me not knowing how strong this is decided okay 60mgs seems to low so I'll just try out 100mgs of codeine. Well I tried it and I really didn't feel much which was stupid I guess I needed to take more, I have no tolternace and 100mgs didn't do anything besides make me feel in a better mood maybe.

Now this is where I am confused. I am a rapper so I write alot of raps obviously. I thought codeine was supposed to make you more like calmed or something like make you sleepy? I was writing today and for some reason TO ME IN MY OPINION although the codeine didn't seem to get my high on that dose for some reason it seemed to wake me up and think better? I was like wtf? I felt like in a good mood and for some reason I could think better?
When I smoke weed I can't make music because I can't think of anything because I'm too fd up. I was expecting the codeine to make it harder to write and put me in a more crappy relaxed mood?

So my questions are these.
#1 can codeine do what I thought I felt like make you have more energy/mood wise seemed better and for some reason I seemed to think better?
#2 I want to know, since 100mgs of codeine did nothing for me in terms of noitcing any high feeling how much should I take?
I want to have a high that I can control that isn't to the point where I am tripping but still to the point I have a little high going on.
So how much codeine would I need to take to get a high like that I tried 100mgs and it really didn't do nothing and I have 0 tolerance to this stuff.
DXM is really really really more crazy than codeine lol, I have a 180ml bottle of codeine when I took 100mgs it took the bottle to about 130ml of cough syrup. So I still have more than a bottle left.

Just need those two questions answered thanks if you read this stuff. Oh and I am not going to get addicted this would just be something that if I chose to do it would be very rare like 1-2 a year being that it would be hard to attain anyway. More so just doing it out of curiosity.

 

[Pagey]

1) The main reason people use codeine, and opiates in general, is because of the mood lift/euphoria, so yes it's normal for you to have been in a better mood. I think the reason you could think better/more clearly is that you took a small dose, so it was enough to get you vaguely high without making you nod out as opiates are prone to. Whenever I take a dose on the lower spectrum of what's needed to get me high with opiates, I'll get really creative, although I wouldn't say I have more energy
2) The first time I took codeine I took about 240mg I think, and that was way too much. Great high but I ended up puking half the time and felt absolutely dreadful the next day. If I were you I'd go with about 170-180mg.

DXM and codeine aren't comparable, they're two completely different drugs, you can't really say one is 'more crazy' than the other.
'I am not going to get addicted'...dude, that's what we all said. I don't mean to be patronising but seriously, watch your shit. I started out with codeine ('oh, I'll only use like once every two months or something, it'll be fine') and now I'm trying to kick a daily heroin habit. Trust me, we all think we'll be the exception to the opiate addiction rule but I've never yet met someone who was.
Honestly if that dose of codeine didn't do anything for you, I'd leave it at that and realise that you're much better off not going down that path. What if you end up loving codeine as so many others did, and start making up excuses to use more regularly, and eventually your tolerance is too high for that so it's hydros, oxys, bupe, heroin? I know so many people on here, me included, who've gone down that path, and I can tell you we all regret it. Be safe.

P.S. Welcome to BL

 

[I.C.E.N]

humm ya true I guess I can say your right in some ways saying you can't be 100% sure you won't get addicted. I don't really think its a addiction I think its just a WANT. I don't know when people say addiction it makes me think of people trying to say yes the bottle has a magical force that makes me drink it. I have the choice at any moment to say no its just that when you try something like weed then dxm whenever you see something like codeine it makes you not afraid to try it, thats why I think people do it is because if you tried weed then well its almost like telling yourself ahh its okay because I tried weed.

I know I can never be 100% on what I say but I can really say for 99% I will never try like the hard drugs like cocaine. I'm 20 so once I turn 21 if anything I would be drinking alcohol over anything. I was just kind of curious on what the high feels like, by the way I am not the type to get high for fun I actually hate being high because I can't think right or enjoy myself. I can much rather handle being drunk then getting high from weed. What I am saying is I am not chasing that tripping totally Fd up high, if anything I would want a buzz-mild high so I can still concentrate.

This really isn't going to be a everyday thing or monthly thing its just something I wanted to try because I have it in front of my face starting at me lol, but your right I COULD get addicted I guess but I still think I have enough will power to say no, I still think its more of a want, when your not doing anything I think most people just say oh well might as well do it nothing else to do, I'm not really like that though, this doesn't count this is just testing it out to see what it feels like.

 

[pally pete]

1)
'I am not going to get addicted'...dude, that's what we all said. I don't mean to be patronising but seriously, watch your shit. I started out with codeine ('oh, I'll only use like once every two months or something, it'll be fine') and now I'm trying to kick a daily heroin habit. Trust me, we all think we'll be the exception to the opiate addiction rule but I've never yet met someone who was.
Honestly if that dose of codeine didn't do anything for you, I'd leave it at that and realise that you're much better off not going down that path. What if you end up loving codeine as so many others did, and start making up excuses to use more regularly, and eventually your tolerance is too high for that so it's hydros, oxys, bupe, heroin? I know so many people on here, me included, who've gone down that path, and I can tell you we all regret it. Be safe.

P.S. Welcome to BL

This.

humm ya true I guess I can say your right in some ways saying you can't be 100% sure you won't get addicted. I don't really think its a addiction I think its just a WANT. I don't know when people say addiction it makes me think of people trying to say yes the bottle has a magical force that makes me drink it. I have the choice at any moment to say no its just that when you try something like weed then dxm whenever you see something like codeine it makes you not afraid to try it, thats why I think people do it is because if you tried weed then well its almost like telling yourself ahh its okay because I tried weed.

I know I can never be 100% on what I say but I can really say for 99% I will never try like the hard drugs like cocaine. I'm 20 so once I turn 21 if anything I would be drinking alcohol over anything. I was just kind of curious on what the high feels like, by the way I am not the type to get high for fun I actually hate being high because I can't think right or enjoy myself. I can much rather handle being drunk then getting high from weed. What I am saying is I am not chasing that tripping totally Fd up high, if anything I would want a buzz-mild high so I can still concentrate.

This really isn't going to be a everyday thing or monthly thing its just something I wanted to try because I have it in front of my face starting at me lol, but your right I COULD get addicted I guess but I still think I have enough will power to say no, I still think its more of a want, when your not doing anything I think most people just say oh well might as well do it nothing else to do, I'm not really like that though, this doesn't count this is just testing it out to see what it feels like.

You need to trust us on this, we all thought exactly like you at one point.. Now we are addicts.

 

[Pagey]

humm ya true I guess I can say your right in some ways saying you can't be 100% sure you won't get addicted. I don't really think its a addiction I think its just a WANT. I don't know when people say addiction it makes me think of people trying to say yes the bottle has a magical force that makes me drink it. I have the choice at any moment to say no its just that when you try something like weed then dxm whenever you see something like codeine it makes you not afraid to try it, thats why I think people do it is because if you tried weed then well its almost like telling yourself ahh its okay because I tried weed.

I know I can never be 100% on what I say but I can really say for 99% I will never try like the hard drugs like cocaine. I'm 20 so once I turn 21 if anything I would be drinking alcohol over anything. I was just kind of curious on what the high feels like, by the way I am not the type to get high for fun I actually hate being high because I can't think right or enjoy myself. I can much rather handle being drunk then getting high from weed. What I am saying is I am not chasing that tripping totally Fd up high, if anything I would want a buzz-mild high so I can still concentrate.

This really isn't going to be a everyday thing or monthly thing its just something I wanted to try because I have it in front of my face starting at me lol, but your right I COULD get addicted I guess but I still think I have enough will power to say no, I still think its more of a want, when your not doing anything I think most people just say oh well might as well do it nothing else to do, I'm not really like that though, this doesn't count this is just testing it out to see what it feels like.

Okay I'm gonna be really clear on this because it kills me to see people setting themselves up for potentially fucking up their lives.
Weed and codeine, not comparable. People say weed is a gateway drug, well if that's true I don't know what the fuck codeine is but it's on a whole other scale. You love your codeine experience, you want to get it stronger, you move on to stronger opiates. We all thought we'd be stronger than that and we'd be in control. You don't even know what you would like when it comes to drugs because you've barely tried any. You haven't had a proper opiate experience. Maybe you'll be of the lucky few who don't like them, more likely you won't. And then what?

A year ago I was also planning on never trying hard drugs. Funny how things work out. All it took was an accident, prescription pills and a shit year to get me where I am today with drugs. At first I planned on jsut trying codeine once, to see what it was like. I loved it too much and I started making more and more excuses to use often, until it got to only trying heroin once to see what it was like, only IV'ing once to see what it was like, only speedballing once to see what it was a like, and there you go. You can't imagine how easy it is to get sucked into it. We ALL thought we'd have enough will power not to.
My very first post on bluelight was asking people if I could get away with just using opiates once in a while. Everyone said no, don't do it, you're NOT gonna be that exception to the rule, and I didn't listen cuz I was just so sure I had more willpower. You have no idea how much I regret not listening.
It's not the fact that you want to try codeine that worries me, it's how oblivious you seem to the potential any opiate has of fucking up your life, and the potential they have to completely changing how you think.
I'm sorry if that was harsh but you really need to hear the truth. Try codeine if you want, but be realistic about it.

 

[twotoomany]

Oh, it's way more than just a WANT that you can control. maybe YOU can, but there are millions of us out here who can't. I have a LOT of will power. Didn't seem to help where opes are concerned... If you've got the chance now, walk away. You'll be better for it, all your life. It's not a road you want to travel too far down.

 

[Serotonin101]

quit while youre ahead. I worked up the ladder: codeine>hydrocodone>oxycodone>morphine-heroin-hydromorphone. just stop before.its too late. like pagey I posted about chipping and everyone said don't do it. I went against the suggestions and ended up hooked all over again and fucked up my life. I'm clean now for almost 14 months. here's the message, don't do it. we went through this so you don't have to.

 

[I.C.E.N]

Well I'm trying it one last time just out of curiosity. Nah I can guarantee my will power is already high than most of you guys.
I have no reason to do drugs like most of you. All the people I know that smoke weed/drink alcohol have reasons to that they tell themselfs.
I am not a depressed person have no reason to do anything.

All of you are thinking that I am one of you just remember that I am not you I am me. You may ask oh well if you have will power why do you want to try codeine? The same reason I tried weed and got drunk before because its fairly safe, not that bad compared to the other hard drugs like cocaine, heroin ect. I will NEVER touch cocaine or heroin. I don't even like needles so you will never catch me doing that, I would not ever try cocaine ever period. I don't even like pills.

I had MANY offers to do other drugs,pills, ect. I live in the projects I can get anything I want. You guys think I am going to do something if I like it, well I like a buzz of weed but you don't see me doing it, I like getting buzzed of alcohol but I don't drink it. Why because I write music, when I say write music I mean LYRICALLY meaning I have to make my brain smart as possible I can't afford drinking/smoking/getting high everyday.

I am just trying this to try it regaurdless off what you all think I ain't going to be using codeine or get addicted to it. Its simple as picking it up or not for me. Most people have problems who are on drugs and I see it first hand so most of you have been telling yourself or giving yourself excuses to use drugs I HAVE NO REASON to tell myself things you guys tell yourself because I am a happy person I don't have problems or let problems get to me even though I live in the projects you should be thankful for what you have because on facebook all I hear is people complain about their lifes when they parents go by them 20,000 cars. If you guys have bad lifes then give me your parents I'll take them and give me the car they bought you too.

I'm going to try this anyways I was just figuring someone would give me a dose to try I have 130ml left I tried 100mgs nothing happened. I know this isn't going to kill me, hurt me or anything which is why unlike coke, ect I ain't afraid to try it because I'm not going to get addicted to it no matter what you think. In fact after I'm done trying it later I'll come back to this forum and tell you what I think about it and I can almost bet I won't get addicted because me as a person does not accept or believe in addiction, you have the ability to say no there for addiction is just a WANT which you give in to.

So if nobody wants to give me a dose to try since 100mgs did nothing is cool I signed up on another website forum, so anyone give me a dose or you'll probably replying saying I'm making the same mistake as you guys but you have to realize I'M ME NOT YOU.

 

[twotoomany]

Yup. You got us. We are just a bunch of sad, degenerate, haters. I don't hold a full time job in a professional field or have a happy life and I used drugs to cover other sadness, not because I thought they were fun or because I was experimenting.


Not


Jeeze, man. We are all just trying to give you sound advice. I don't know what amount of codeine you need to take to get high. I only know that this is how most of these problems started for a lot of people. All any of us has said is to be careful

 

[pally pete]

meaning I have to make my brain smart as possible

This may require listening to sound advice.

 

[Pagey]

Oh well sorry then, forgot to take into account the fact that you're wiser and stronger than all of us. Oh and also that you know why we use drugs and stuff.

We're trying to help, you seriously don't have to be so insulting. You're obviously very naive about drugs so don't expect people who've been in exactly the same position as you (and yeah trust me, at the time I also thought I was stronger than everyone else...Although I didn't go around shoving it in their faces) to just sit back idly and tell you to go have fun with opiates.

And in case you didn't notice, I GAVE you a dose.

 

[I.C.E.N]

Well I tried about 130mgs of codeine today which has guaifensin in it also. Now remember last time I tried about 100mgs had no problem.
With 130mgs I felt a definite mood increase, remember I'm not a depressed person, me and my friend was writing outside IN THE COLD and I still felt my mood up.
I can't stay on the warm feeling because the sunshine would hit me with warm rays once in a while. I had maybe a super super barely noticable drunken walk type effect but so small I could barely notice.

If anything I would only use this for mood but heres the thing I am done with codeine.
After about 1hr30min-2hrs I started to feel weird like panicy or something so I went home.
Maybe its the guaifensin in it or something because I felt sick and was very close to throwing up. I went outside and tried puking but nothing came out because I wasn't puking yet I was just doing what you do before you actually start puking which is make them puking sounds.

I was drinking lots of water and trying to eat some crackers. Its about 5 hours later, I went to sleep and felt good until I got up I still feel a bit sick like a nausea feeling. I was constipated as fuck and it felt like I couldn't piss even though I had to piss. I did pee it just took longer than normal.
So overall I wouldn't mess with it because just off of shitty 130mgs I got sick and I'm still a little sick in fact I'm going to bed.
I just don't get how with 100mgs I was fine and 130mgs made me feel like shit

 

[Pagey]

Well yeah, that's opiates. Also I'd told you in an earlier post that they cause nausea. Urinary retention and constipation are perfectly common as well. No offense but do your research before just swallowing a random drug next time.

 

[Serotonin101]

I personally wouldn't bother helping this guy anymore. since he knows everything and isn't weak like us. so I'm just gonna back away. oh wait I'm not weak cuz I don't use anymore, so you sir need to evaluate your reasoning or should I say your rationalizing, minimizing, and ignorance. ill be in TDS waiting for your "help I'm addicted" thread.

 

[bronson]

The questions in this thread have been properly addressed, now it seems both this and civility have run their course. Closed. PM any questions.