Opioids Massive emotional influx when quitting Opiates/Opioids

[Ksa]

Regarding The whole numbing of emotions deal... I have always wondered this- If somebody becomes dependent on opiates/opioids at a time when everything in their life is going well, and throughout their use things continue to go well, are the wd's as severe as they are for someone using in order to purposely cover up uncomfortable emotions?
May be a silly thing to think about, but I've always been curious.
Cat

Well, if you try to cover up serious emotional distress for a long time, in addition to the physical withdrawal symptoms you will feel like painting the walls with your wrists, a bit like spiderman on a wrist slitting marathon. Not funny.

 

[thelastrefuge]

Well, if you try to cover up serious emotional distress for a long time, in addition to the physical withdrawal symptoms you will feel like painting the walls with your wrists, a bit like spiderman on a wrist slitting marathon. Not funny.

Yeah, tell me about it. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
Ksa I think maybe the wd's wouldn't be as bad emotionally anyway if you were in a good place before and during using. The question is, why use in the first place if you're so happy? Hmmm....

 

[Ksa]

Yeah, tell me about it. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
Ksa I think maybe the wd's wouldn't be as bad emotionally anyway if you were in a good place before and during using. The question is, why use in the first place if you're so happy? Hmmm....

For the same reason why Columbus went to America, why the first man went in space and on the Moon, for...for the loss of control you get from exploring the unknown. Youtube's playing bad jam, trip to wonderland...now the question is, if you had designed that wonderland inch by inch and controlled everything about it, would you really enjoy taking a trip there? Not in a 1000 years, because if the place is known and controlled, it is not desirable to go there. It's why people go see new countries, get out of town, indirectly to seek that loss of control involved in traveling to a place they don't know. Control is power, we all strive for it, so that we may experience how it feels to lose it. In the end, we are only stardust.

 

[Crashing]

Yeah, tell me about it. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
Ksa I think maybe the wd's wouldn't be as bad emotionally anyway if you were in a good place before and during using. The question is, why use in the first place if you're so happy? Hmmm....

There's a difference between happy and complacent.

 

[aussie101]

Aussie,
Good Morning (or Evening) to you! Just checking in to see how you're doing.
Also wanted to comment on the trigger issue~I've found over the years that some triggers can be such simple things...sometimes things that cannot be avoided.
For example, waking up can do it for me! The very arrival of certain times in the day when on a schedule can turn into some sick sort of internal clock saying, "It's time!". Before eating, it's easy to hesitate and think, "Wait, maybe I should just eat after my next dose in case food is a negative impact." Sitting in a certain place and smoking is another one I have noticed.
It's so strange. We all know certain friends, places etc...can be triggers. Don't know if anything I brought up may be an issue for you.
Just wanted to point out that some triggers are so simple and unavoidable that we may not realize them until it's too late.
Please post on your well being...or lack thereof
Cat

Hey Cat.

Yes I am doing ok! The sun came out today, which is awesome so i've been out lapping up some sun rays. The weather in Sydney has been shit for Feb (except a few times when the sun has come out) - which used to be a trigger for me, i would go "oh its raining, what a great day to go get on!". I really want it to clear up so i can go surfing at the beach!!

And yeah waking up is always a mission in itself, i am so used to having something numbing to reach for first thing in the morning. Right now i am still taking valium 5mg in the morning to help with this and it helps a bit but i think its making me a bit too lazy. I'm going to start reducing it and tomorrow im going to head back to my apartment in the city, I have been chilling at my parents house for a couple of weeks until i feel strong enough to go face my life in the city. I plan on going back to the gym in a few more days - the gym helped heaps during my first couple of weeks clean, so i am looking forwards to that. Plus i can use the steam room as a detox from the Vals.

There was like this honey-moon period about a week after i got clean where i was like - yeah awesome i've beat this shit, but yeah very quickly the mind can start playing games. I am definitely building a resilience to my old thinking though. I was terrible in regards to breaking the law but now i have no need to its starting to dawn on me i can be a normal citizen if i can get through the next two weeks, go back to Uni and have that purpose in my life - this will take me all the way through i hope and i will keep working towards it.

There has been suboxone right in front of me for the past month of being clean so if i wanted to i could have had it any time. I am using that a strength builder. Its working well! And i have had my phone off for a few weeks, i might turn it back on tomorrow.

So in general i am doing well, i am getting used to my emotions again which is actually really nice

Thanks for checking in with me.

Aussie