Who's your favorite "Fucked Up", "Stoned Out" "Totally Wasted" songwriter?

Layne Staley is by far my favorite!

Although I can't believe no one has mentioned Scott Weiland from the Stone Temple Pilots.
 
A nigga that didn't die from an OD automatically has more ground to make up for in the category of "fucked up," "stoned out," and "totally wasted". I think Staley might rival the worst of them all, though, with the way he died. Weilland still has yet to figure out if he's gonna go down like a champ, or fade away.
 
Weiland is too far gone from his heyday to go down like a champ. Staley's death was as sick and tragic as one could expect from an addict of his caliber - the way he lived his last few years is the only example I need to stay away from heroin. He definitely didn't go down like a champ, either...just another sad old junkie stewing in his own filth, completely ignoring the pain and desperation of his friends and family.
 
Kevin Barnes, who in concert once said "...we write all of our songs on mushrooms."

but really it's elliott smith. some people just know songwriting.
 
Generally, when I am under the influence of something I just listen to what I would normally and it just sounds better. That being said, I do like listening to Reggae when I smoke weed which goes without saying but when I am rolling I will listen to anything. I mean you could be playing anything from Mozart to Biggie and I am cool as long as its something I can pick up good vibes from and get my head goin.
 
CoffeeDrinker said:
A nigga that didn't die from an OD automatically has more ground to make up for in the category of "fucked up," "stoned out," and "totally wasted". I think Staley might rival the worst of them all, though, with the way he died. Weilland still has yet to figure out if he's gonna go down like a champ, or fade away.
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No one knows whether he died automatically or not. It took them two weeks to find him :(

MrGrunge said:
Weiland is too far gone from his heyday to go down like a champ. Staley's death was as sick and tragic as one could expect from an addict of his caliber - the way he lived his last few years is the only example I need to stay away from heroin. He definitely didn't go down like a champ, either...just another sad old junkie stewing in his own filth, completely ignoring the pain and desperation of his friends and family.
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I unfortunately agree with you on Weiland. His death would be like Staley's-unnoticed by far. Staley is the reason I will never do drugs. He has had such an influence in my life although I never saw him perform, never met him, he's been dead half my life, and I didn't know about him until years after his death. Yesterday was the eleventh anniversary of his death.
 
stinkfoot said:
"Morrison’s poetic style is characterized by contrived ambiguity of meaning which serves to express subconscious thought and feeling—-a tendency now generally associated with the postmodern or avant garde. His poetic strength is that he creates poetry quite profound in its effect upon the reader, by using vividly evocative words and images in his poems. While it is obvious that Morrison has read writers that influence his work, and their influence remains strong in subject and tone, he still manages to make it his own in the way he adapts these influences to his style, experiences, and ideas. We would expect to find remnants of quotes, stolen lines and ideas, in a lesser writer, but Morrison shows his strength as a poet by resisting plagiarism in order to achieve originality in his own verse. As T. S. Eliot has said, “Bad poets borrow, good poets steal.” "


also just because he liked to drink doesn't mean he wasn't charismatic.
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Love that piece you found about his lyrics. I'm a vocalist, a tenor baritone apparently, which means that I have a respect for true baritones that it would be impossible to overstate. For me, Jim Morrison and Ian Curtis paved the way for everyone in that syle ever since (Banksy from Interpol, and whoever it is that fronts the editors may as well have fucking sampled Curtis's actual voice and just been done with it).

As for the Morrison and his drinking, people forget that there were essentially two jim morisons', and that thre was a time period involved hear. When I say two Jim Morrison's I meant it literally. As soon as any of his band mates saw the cap come off the bottle they knew they were in the prescence of "Jimbo", his cold and evil alter ego. I sympathize as I've taken pretty much every drug under the sun (including month long suicide binges on crack, meth, gear) but alcohol is the only drug that's every made me a truly different person. I couln't watch a show of jim drunk just like i couldn't watch a film of me, probably CCTV footage of some sort of senseless violence or aggression) when I'm drunk. It's the one thing I abstain from. Gave up drinking just past my 20th birthday in fact - I'm 29 now.

But it was Jim not Jimbo that made the doors so special. Jim was living on a diet of lsd and speed leading up to the time he joined the doors. At audition Jim was so shy that ray (manzareck, unsung lyrics contributor, organ dynamo - the only person i can think who has such a disorienting sound is Joey Santiago (guitarist from the pixies), and bass player - again he just used the organ, but he more than made up for an electric basist) had doubts about whether Morrison would be able to play live, nearling passing him up. But he fitted so well with the others (other 2 members joined right around the same time) on a personal level too, so that accepting him was made a lot easier by that (trust me, I've seen this enough times from the inside out). They didn't just rip a band name out of something out of a Huxley novel, thinking it would resonate with an audience (Yes, their first five albums were all on a major label, but Elektra considered the doors a huge gamble). The band were true believers however, as well as a formidable intellect. Morrison had read everything ever written, record producer Paul Rothchild would joke, adding that he had never seen any one of the doors without a book. I believe that music is equal to sport when it comes to under appreciating the role that intelligent thought plays in the manifestation of greatness. Unfortunately Jim lived that fine line between genius and insanity. He drank himself to death (or was atleast headed that way when he accidentally O.D'd on the heroin or whatever happened, and even did this on purpose in some kind of way. i even think he saw some inner beauty in the tragic and awful nature of his demise. Like scoresese saw a beauty in the demise of boxing champ Jake Lamotta in Raging Bull. At the end of the day, the Doors succeeded in engineering such a distinctly recognisable sound that few others can match, in my opinion. No i don't think they are quite up there with the true great acts like zeppelin, dylan, soundgarden, the smiths etc.. in talent. I think they were just a touch behind. But in terms of the uniqueness of their sound they were untouchable. To me like the late 60's version of the chilli peppers with their impossible to replicate musical style, but with the added cult appeal generated by the complex,troubled and self destructive (not to mention amazingly talented) frontman that was Jim.

Anyway, I'm fucking off my chops and rambling hard on a thread i've never even posted in before. Forum even. So what's new?

Anyways, you have my sincerest apologies. I wanted to get into stayley, cobain, lemmy, slash, chino, paige hamilton but alas twas insufficient time. Plus everyone already said pretty much everything already.This 3,4 double chlorine ritalin job fucking takes no prisoners man, I swear.

Laters


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