Clarification of what Thai actually is?

[stivsmegg]

i have gotten thai stick 3 times in my life and it was always tied to a stick with a twine of sorts(i assumed hemp but who knows) they were very small buds and from what i can remember it was not very green and it was not compressed which is what i iked about it the first time i had it because back then all i got was shwag and a bag of nug was too xpensive so this stuff was great but it was short lived and i hadnt seen anymore until about 3 years ago when a raggedy old homeless guy asked me for a couple dollars, i was stung out on heroin so i was just like fuck off! kinda, but then he was like man i just got back from new york and i got some thai stick, i will give you a nice bud for a couple dollars, i was like yeah right but then he produced a bag with 30 or more sticks and they looked just like i remembered but i was hustlin' myself there for a bag of dope so i declined but yeah it seems to be here and there and always the same description, i would love to test it out now.

 

[midnitecruiser]

If I remember correctly from what I read, the thai sticks that were treated in a special way contained all the other alkaloids from the opium paste used in the manufacture of heroin except morphine, which would be gone from the paste by the time the buds were dipped in it.

Also read somewhere, someone rating the weed that could be bought in the US in the 70s as: ditch weed (0-1% THC), Mexican brick weed (2-3%, or something), top grade Mexican or Columbian (Ac./Columb.Gold, etc.) at some 4-5%; and Thai (maybe 8%, I don't remember exactly).

Thais are always sativas.

So Thai would be the strongest of that era. Back when something like California Orange was considered a strong Indica, also at around 8%THC, we obviously have waay more potent stuff now.

 

[hx_]

If I remember correctly from what I read, the thai sticks that were treated in a special way contained all the other alkaloids from the opium paste used in the manufacture of heroin except morphine, which would be gone from the paste by the time the buds were dipped in it.

100% bullshit.

Thai stick is just outdoors grown, earthy smelling, sometimes seedy and often brownish coloured buds. Compressed and wrapped in in string/thread (generally red) to make the standard thai weed into the 'sticks' it's recognised as.

Can't believe no one's posted pictures! This stuff looks just like most of the thai I've smoked.

 

[Fire&Water]

100% bullshit.

Thai stick is just outdoors grown, earthy smelling, sometimes seedy and often brownish coloured buds. Compressed and wrapped in in string/thread (generally red) to make the standard thai weed into the 'sticks' it's recognised as.

Can't believe no one's posted pictures! This stuff looks just like most of the thai I've smoked.

Thats the s**t, hx...just somewhat skinnier than what we used to get imported in the 70's w/o the red string

 

[Okami]

hx_ Does it smell of anything or taste spicey?

 

[zacc]

Righto I want to clarify what "Thai" actually is, growing up I was always under the impression that Thai was slang Cannabis Ruderalis. I had a friend at school who for a couple of months was stealing weed from a dealer, it always smelt and was damp, was very dark, didn't smell like weed or taste like it and didn't really get you high unless you smoked almost literally ounces of the stuff. Which was convenient for him since he was stealing ounces of the stuff . This was literally as I just started smoking weed and we came to the conclusion that this was Thai.

The only other experience with thai I've had was when my friend bought something that was called thai and just flat out did not look like weed and was brown. Again didn't taste like weed. When we rolled like 1-2 grams into a spliff it did get you high though.

Since then I've heard people say they got Thai that tasted spicey and didn't look like weed. This spicey thai made a friend chunder whilst he wasn't particularly high. I've also heard that different potencies of thai when you buy them comes wrapped in different colour strings, red indicating the best and that thai barely has any smell. I've also heard from spicey thai people that they're thai is just as good as normal weed (though I dunnea believe that).

There's a wikipedia page on "thai sticks" which claim to use the most "premium buds". There's also this that even claims that Thai is stronger than most "skunk". (That article incidentally does have red string in the photo)

Basically what da fuck does thai mean where you come from?

OK, i lived in Thailand for years:/ In the late 70s, thai sticks came on a twig of plant stem, was tied on with hemp twine[color means NOTHING], and was usually a family operation with all pitching in to make TOP quality thai stick from their small lots! This was DYNAMITE gear. Comparable to top strains today!! Thai is a very unusual strain, it only grows well in the tropics, photoperiod has little effect on it, it flowers at its own rate, with different branches often ripening at different times!! In the early eightys, some Oz dudes paid the farmers to grow large commercial plots of weed, quality went down, but was still excellent!! This was pressed in to kilo bricks, containers of which came to OZ!! Just before the big plots were started, greed already had lower quality sticks available tied with cotton[color meant nothing]! The plants themselves have huge shade leaves called "alligator tails". Very distinctive, large, tall, wide plants. With lots of small, extremely resinous buds all over them. Ripening was weird and unpredictable:/ Thai weed contains THCV..tetrahydracannabivarin, a short acting, strong, fast come on cannabanoid that is very rare! All Thai weed is "cured". It is brown, as the clorophyll is mostly removed in the curing! It is layered on the ground, then another layer at 90 degrees, then another, and so on!! Piles six feet high were normal! Every day, its destacked, and restacked with the pile rotating which layer is where! After a couple of weeks its now brown, and is left separated for another week to be sure its dry, then its pressed in to bricks! Hope this was informative Its FACT!!

 

[zacc]

The one common thing with everyone in britain is they refer to Thai being shit. If you've got thai, it won't be good whatever it is.

Hahalol. If its shit, it most definetly NOT Thai,lol

 

[zacc]

That's basically what the wikipedia article said to the point that I'm genuinly curious if you just read it and reposted it... Are you just saying its weed from thailand?

Shit, a long post did not print,,grrrr! Yes, its Thai weed, it was unreal in the 70s to early 80s when greed changed things from a family enterprise to a commercial one, Ozzie guys paid farmers to grow big fields instead of their backyard family efforts with lots of TLC!! They WERE tied with hemp fibre on bits of weed twig[the original and best]for a looong time, then as more was made, cotton on thin sticks was used, color meant NOTHING!! Then it went to pressed kilo bricks for Australia! Still bloody good, but not as mindblowing as the early stuff Its all cured, so its brown! Its potency in the 70s was over 10 to 15%, even more on some plants!! These days, if your getting weed from SE Asia, its most likely Burmese! They grow shitloads of it. Not even close to original Thai, which is still grown, but mostly for domestic use!! I lived there for years, and had access to all this stuff, Thai friends grew it. Also took me up in to the triangle in the hills. Wild place!!! Hope this was informative, so much shit is spouted by nonothings who havent even been there:/ BTW, Thai has substantial amounts of tetrahydracanabivarin!! A rare one, fast acting, short lived, slightly hallucinogenic, and not found in many varietys in noticable amounts! "opiated weed" was really a gimmick. You could not put enough opium on it to really have an effect!

 

[zacc]

I have smoked a fair amount of Thai type weed in the past few years and find it to be pretty nice but it does vary from batch to batch. I just assumed that anything labeled Thai is just outdoor grown green from Thailand that are usually processed in big bales, hence the compact/crushed look that a lot of it has.

There are numerous names for it, most famous I guess is Thai Stick, just weed bound around a bamboo stick. The differences I have noticed in batches tends to be the colour and consistency of the weed, i.e is it totally crushed and compact or more bud like.

Bearing in mind I don't smoke really crappy Thai but for the rest of it the high always plays out the same way for me. A fairly strong heady high, able to function and get stuff done, it usually tapers off around the 40 minute mark and leaves you a little lazy but nothing serious.

The smell is always the same for me, very hashy with a little menthol in there. I presume this is just because these plants are grown in the wild with no nutrients as such and are just the local indigenous variety (sativa?).

I know a lot of people who are turning to weed like this for the price and also some people find it a little easier on them than the more premium U.K grown weed. I would say grab a bag if the price is right, just watch out for the occasional seeds

These days bud, 99% of SE Asian weed is burmese, they grow tons of it, very average compared to the "REAL" Thai in the old days:/

 

[laugh]

Used to get oz's/qp's of thai sticks all the time in the 70's The actual plants (an ancient sativa) grow very tall and spindly w/ many branches that bud similar to Jamaican (long branches covered with smaller sized buds) but stronger The real sticks are tied around the super strong branch (stick) w/ a piece of stalk fiber (string) The high is a very strong sativa high that everybody used to love...the resale was about a sawbuck & a half
This Latino buddy that always had lb's of Michoacan was hangin' around with us one day a q.p. came into town, looked at them inquisitively...
and asked "how do you find papers big enough to roll them up" ? we laugh about that till this day - He was serious.
Sometimes we would acquire shipments that were (treated) with opium, those were a real treat

Edit: I remember them being around 5 in. long w/ many long (compact) buds, 5/8 - 3/4 inches in diameter.

bang on. they used to make it to australia too in the 70s.

bombay black hash with streaks/lines of opium through..

 

[aussie101]

i smoked some awesome Thai buds in asia, that stuffs niiiiiiice

 

[justsayknow]

The weed I smoked in Thailand was just average sativa. Don't get me wrong it still had an effect even though it looked and tasted poor. I asked one of the locals about the size and shape of the plants and it sounds like they may not be growing the original strains from the 70s anymore. This was in the south though.

 

[aussie101]

^ Go to Chiang Mai

 

[justsayknow]

I really do want to. Not for the buds though, psychedelic is not really my style these days. Would love to get some seeds though just to see how it grows. However I wouldn't mind some golden triangle opium if I had the chance...

 

[aussie101]

That is gettable there too