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Hey my friend at a party a few days ago, put a single e pill into a clip up plastic bag, the same bag he also had about a gram of bud. the pill crushed and you couldnt notice anything it just looked like a white/yellow bud. so we chopped it and smoked it.
I didnt notice any sort of buzz or pick me up from the e, although ive been told that it should still effect you. Im not really planning on it again but i was just wondering if anyone has any stories etc along the same lines and if they noticed it? or do it regularly anything just share :)
 
This question isnt actually about cannabis. Its about how effective mdma(assuming it was mdma in that pill) is when you smoke it.

Moving to ED.
 
You destroyed most if not all the MDMA by burning it at high heat. So it is predictable that you would have no affects from it. MDMA should be ingested orally, but can also be plugged or even put in by IV, but smoking will pretty much do nothing.
 
MDMA can only be vaporized, not smoked. Direct flame directly destroys MDMA.


If you wanted to smoke MDMA, you'd need a meth pipe.. and it's honestly worse than smoking meth. A LOT worse. Super fucking fiendy, hardly any effects and you just get all cracked out.


Just swallow the pill like it was made for
 
Are you sure it was MDMA I have smoked a random pill when o was younger that we all thot could have been a piperazine or something did give a buzz stronger than the pot but like others have said made you feel really cracked out and not feeling that good.
 
^ lmao sounds like a meth pill.



NEVER smoke pills, that's just... stupid. There's no other word for it :\


You're smoking like 300mg of pill binder and dye to get to 50mg of MDMA... IF it's even MDMA. If you must smoke MDMA, you need to use crystal and vaporize it like methamphetamine.... and you'd be way better off just smoking meth honestly.
 
MDMA can only be vaporized, not smoked. Direct flame directly destroys MDMA.


If you wanted to smoke MDMA, you'd need a meth pipe.. and it's honestly worse than smoking meth. A LOT worse. Super fucking fiendy, hardly any effects and you just get all cracked out.


Just swallow the pill like it was made for

Hey Folley, I might be wrong in this question but... Isn't it really difficult to vaporize MDMA? I remember usingtfse a while back about this topic in specific (vaporizing MDMA) and from what I gathered from the thread I found was that MDMA will degrade before you can get it to its actual vaporizing point (sorry If I am using incorrect lingo *i don't vape often*). Isn't the only proper way to vape MDMA by using the freebase form and not the hcl?
 
Dude! Smoking MDMA by itself is not even a good idea. While it is possible to smoke pure crystals from a suitable pipe, even if you're very careful with the heat a lot of it will burn off. Not only is it a waste of good crystals, the smoke tastes awful and makes your throat feel as if it's being stabbed by lots of tiny needles. Any effect you get is very harsh with a brutal, jagged comedown. This is why I used to think smoking crystals was the worst way of taking my beloved MDMA.

However, because of Valleys I've had to modify this list to include "smoking crushed pills without a pipe", which replaced smoking crystals as The Very Worst Way To Consume The Very Best Drug Of All Time. You probably want to know why.

A pill weighing 350 mg and containing 150 mg MDMA also contains about 200 mg of filler. This filler is usually lactose, microcrystalline cellulose or cornstarch. In pharmaceutical drugs this is the case at least, I presume illegal MDMA manufacturers use the same or something very similar. Because this filler is mixed very tightly with the MDMA you'd have to burn off/evaporate the filler to be able to evaporate and inhale the MDMA. Unfortunately, at the temperature required to do so all the MDMA has already decomposed off so at this point you're basically smoking burning sugar pellets. When the filler material is tightly packed like in a pill, it doesn't burn easily and produces lots of nasty complex carbohydrates. Quite a few of these are strongly carcinogenic.

So while you thought you were smoking MDMA you were inhaling a ugly mixture of combustion products, random carbohydrates that could give you cancer, some very fine sugar crystals that irritate your airways and whatever is produced when MDMA burns/decomposes. There is a chance a few lucky molecules can escape the carnage and enter your lungs, but you don't really deserve these.

Damn man, thinking about someone burning MDMA almost makes me cry. DON'T SMOKE PILLS!
 
Hey Folley, I might be wrong in this question but... Isn't it really difficult to vaporize MDMA? I remember usingtfse a while back about this topic in specific (vaporizing MDMA) and from what I gathered from the thread I found was that MDMA will degrade before you can get it to its actual vaporizing point (sorry If I am using incorrect lingo *i don't vape often*). Isn't the only proper way to vape MDMA by using the freebase form and not the hcl?

Nah. It's not difficult at all. It's as easy as smoking meth, literally.



You get a meth pipe, put MDMA in it, and keep the lighter as far as you can away from the bowl... it vaporizes. A LOT gets burnt, and it was probably the most cracked out, paranoid, fiendy and meth like roll I've ever experienced. It's basically like meth when you smoke it, but it's not even as good as meth because as you mentioned a lot is destroyed and it basically just makes you feel mad at your self for doing something so dumb :!

and that was with tested pure MDMA, some amazing crystal, with pills? GROSS.




but I won't lie. MDMA can be smoked, and you can get effects from it. I don't recommend it, although honestly I'll probably do it again some day if I ever had ounces of MDMA lying around...


It might be nice at the peak of MDMA, but by itself it is AWFUL. If you did do it though you would need a much higher dose than normal, be prepared for a worse experience and way more side effects
 
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