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^goodnight, well morning, mayne! sleep tight and we'll see you 'round once you've had your much need beauty sleep ;)!

any of the social crew around?

i had a lengthy post which i lost and was unable to recover. so i'm not going to type it all back out if i've got no audience!

how are you fuckers anyway? did the aim chat eventuate at all while i was all busy nodding off and napping?

i think i resolved my connection problems as well. seems firefox isn't cooperating with my connection at the moment so i'm back using chrome which isn't giving me any problems at all!

and oh yeah, you better bet i'm HAIGH!
 
I decided to go talk to my parents so I wouldn't do something reckless, which I was about to. Also told my mom to take my opiates (had some stupid propoxyphene I forgot) and I just hide them somewhere in my house I wouldn't find them.

I guess this was better, had some whisky to help the pain. Not much, but still any relief is welcome. Also took clonazepam and failed my schedule (twice a week max), but today is horrible. I know this is no excuse and I'll try to be more careful in the future since I've been dependant on benzos several times for years.

Feeling alittle bit more positive since pain has diminished a bit. No longer swimming in the lake of fire. Feels like I'm badly sunburned but to me that's good.

Sometimes I just want to give up, though my dad made change my mind (actually he was fucking pissed at me and told me I was a fucking coward and a moron if I chose to just screw it all and continue my old life). Sometimes a reality check can be good. Also he never fucking complains and he's dying. Still he goes to work (should be retired, refused) after having 4 heartattacks and being unable to walk because of MS that only gets worse.
 
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Tentram AMD synth and toz and hatrix, sorry I didn't respond . I got wayyyy to high last night. Diazepam is my favorite benzo hands down. Way fucking better than temazepam holy shit.I love it. Way more sedating than temazepam too. Or atleast for me..well anyways I got way too high.
Also I smoked weed with the experience and I hadn't smoked weed in 23 days. My favorite drug is marihuana. I missed you my love <3

But today! You guys better be on aim, I took my vyvanse today so I will stay awake hahahahaha.


SUPER FUCKING BOWL SUNDAY!!! FUCK YES
 
well you just caught me as i'm about to head off for a while, if i don't fall asleep seeing as though it is 2am here now.

i'm about to pop some diazepam myself then punch a few more cones of weed while i put Donnie Brasco on and relax!

i'll likely catch you up soon digs. don't get too high in the mean time :P otherwise imma get in contact with your folks and have them mail me all your drugs as part of your punishment!

SO BEHAVE!

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i got you by the balls, buddy!
 
Tentram my man! What up diggs? Don't fall asleep , I want to chat on aim with you :(

Don't worry, I took 60mg of vyvanse and only 5mg valium and weed and bupre, but last night I took too much valium . Last night I took 30mg valium and hydroxyzjne. And that's wayyy to Much for me. I was going on 1mg klonopin = 20mg valium, but that is sooooo soo off in my opinion. I also took a break off from hydrozyzine and hadn't taken it in a while so my tolerance to its sedative effects are much lower . I used to be able to take 150mg and stay awake during the day, but this time 100 put me on my ass, and then I added another 100mg lolol.

For me 1mg klonopin or xanax feels like 12-15mg valium
 
Tentram AMD synth and toz and hatrix, sorry I didn't respond . I got wayyyy to high last night. Diazepam is my favorite benzo hands down. Way fucking better than temazepam holy shit.I love it. Way more sedating than temazepam too. Or atleast for me..well anyways I got way too high.
Also I smoked weed with the experience and I hadn't smoked weed in 23 days. My favorite drug is marihuana. I missed you my love <3

But today! You guys better be on aim, I took my vyvanse today so I will stay awake hahahahaha.


SUPER FUCKING BOWL SUNDAY!!! FUCK YES

I was in the hospital and got put to sleep so I was quite away too ;)



can't shoot up, blood is like oil and clogs 23g needles even. Fucking terrible, I hate doing stims other ways than IV, I would rather not do them at all I think then. Veins are shot to shit from trying and being stupid earlier today when I was really mad at everything about life. Harm reduction went out the window this time. Now I feel like a moron with with these 40 or so track marks. I did finally hit a large vein jabbed 23g needöe in at 90 degrees angle into the upper leg) and got half the solution in, then it just got jammed. So fuck that, no more, I still want my veins for something better like heroin.

I hope you have better veins than me guys, mine are thin as a thread and will break upon the slightest tremble. My girlfriend had bigger veins than me. This will be my motivation to hit the gym once I find a way to handle my pain.

Why is my blood so fucking thick? Would aspirin help this? (good stronger blood thinners too but don't really want to take these kinds of meds unless ordered so by doctor) I keep a small pharmacy at home, it is nice since I hate going to doctors. Got a whole drawer full of local anesthetics for example, junkie mind told me this could be usefull one day. Well, it was when getting an infection from a missed shot. Most of the time I get sick if it ain't serious I will treat it myself. I know this may not be the best option, but I think I've been treated so shitty by the medical community that I rather just handle it myself. It takes alot for me to go to doctors, I got my eye messed up by getting smashed into a sink, sewed the wound close myself, this is how much I don't like going to hospitals/doctors. It turned out great though, not a big scar at all.
 
What the fuck, what happened toz? Why were you in hospital
Should never have left in the first place, had to go back because of murphys law (the only one I follow). Look at page 37 on this thread I think, explained it all there, from symptoms to coming home again with reason.

also lots of anger there, I was not happy as you will see by my posts, however I've found peace for the moment again

was tired of it all
 
still don't understand what happened? Did you od?


Synth get on aim bitch...

And fuck, I misplaced my key and can't fucking find it. I had it in my hands 30mins ago and now its fucking lost fuck.
 
Yea I did od, went to the hospital, signed myself out after a while when I felt alot better, rested for a bit, had a minor shot amp after that (really miniscule so I wouldn't turn the whole day upside down waking up in the middle of the night) felt extremely bad after a while, thought somehow I was never fine from the beginning and was tired from ODing/dehydration still and not from the withdrawal effects.

No, what happened was I had some solution that had dried on my desk, thought it was speed but instead it was ketobemidone. Now I stopped using a little less than 2 weeks ago, wíthdrawal was almost gone. However that amount sent me straight back into ketobemidone withdrawal on top of the minor speed dose that only prolonged and intensified the comedown from that + not sleeping for 2 days or what it was.

Panic caused most of my symptoms I guess (not feeling like I could move got caused by taking lots of benzos which instead of decreasing panic, increased it since I thought I was having a stroke or something when it got hard to walk because in reality was fucked up, it felt like I had injected naloxone (if you ever failed a taper and then took too little of your opiate doc you know what I mean, terrible increase in symptoms like anxiety and pain with that psychedlic everything is wrong feeling) This made me think I was going to die. However apart from high blood pressure/heart rate and dehydration, I was physically fine. Forgot fever of 39 something, I am dumb to take drugs when having high fever from the beginning. But it has been shifting back and forth these last days, feels quite weird.

Things like this happening don't even come as a surprise anymore lol. Just another Toz Fail ®

Hope this provides more clarity than my other posts.

In other words, the whole thing was really riddiculous and now I suffer withdrawal again (not as bad as before but yesterday it felt like it). I'll just laugh at this crap to be honest, everything just went wrong on so many levels these last days but this takes the cake at the moment.

Take drugs when sick, OD when sick, go to hospital, sign out AMA, take more drugs, get more sick, put yourself in withdrawal anxiety then take benzos that don't help instead making you think you had a stroke because of slurry speech and inablity to move correctly, get even more panic and back to the hospital

roflmao when I think of it really, anyone feel like taking me on in a stupidity contest?
 
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Ok well I am on aim...

Dude I have been through a similar situation. Stop going so hard on drugs, god...I mean its frustrating to watch you do this to yourself becyase I just want to slap you and scream wake up !
Best of luck, much love....

Lac..


God damnit cuntram and synth and anyone else, aim will be epic today as I will be there and making super orgy chats. Send me a pm with your aim acc if you want in
 
"Take drugs when sick, OD when sick, go to hospital, sign out AMA, take more drugs, get more sick, put yourself in opiate withdrawal anxiety by accident then take benzos that don't help instead making you think you had a stroke because of slurry speech and inablity to move correctly, get even more panic and back to the hospital"

rebound withdrawal effect by taking the ketobemidone by accident caused a flare up of my nerve pain thinking I had extreme vasoconstriction (due to hallucinations me thinking I looked blue/purple) becuase it feels like pins and needles both, just the pain felt so much worse and on top of that I had opiate withdrawal pains again which I of course had no idea at the moment. Causing me to think this was some serious complications (while it was still bad physically, it wasn't really something that would make go to the hospital otherwise if not for fever that also caused me to feel like I was burning up) That and the uncertainty of wtf was happening to me made really think I was going to die, I think I've never felt that bad on drugs physically.

it's so unbelievably stupid, unneccessary and painful that I can't help but laugh actually, so much fail in so little time is almost a new record for me
 
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Having you ever tried a sobriety break. Plus is you can still use and you get super high after being sober for a little. I know the withdraw sucks, but you can get meds to help.

Have you ever been on suboxone maintenance
 
I was for 6 years on subutex maintenance. I quit cold turkey it and 5mg clonazepam daily (benzos for like 4 years) + neurontin 3600mg (4weeks for CT) daily about 7-8 months ago. I was tired of the drugs. After some months I felt alive again, however, when I quit the neurontin, it bit me in the ass with a vengeance. Since then I suffer vision problem (see multiple images of everything, text I see here is 3 colums of where there should be only 1, maximum counted is 23) HORRIBLE NERVE PAIN THAT NEVER STOPS, anxiety, cold sweats, lethargy etc. I've suffered more from this med used for 4 weeks than all the opiates and benzos ever did during several YEARS. I was completely sober from all for 6 months, the symptoms didn't go away, I've become disillusioned, since I wanted to make something good, quit the drugs and start a new life, and all I did was dig myself a deeper hole than ever before.

Neurontin is a horrible med, once I got addicted, I had withdrawals during the day to varying absorption of tablets. I prefer feeling normal than being on it, but it helped with withrawals alot I thought, it would probably have been impossible without it. However the withdrawal from this med makes my 12mg subutex and 5mg clonazepam withdrawal seem like a walk in the park. I'd take those addictions back any day if it meant I could rid myself of this one.

I know you will say, it's not the neurontin. It is, unfortunately I am unlucky. I don't want to get back on it, if I do, i will never be able to stop in the future if I have complications. I'd suffer heroin, methadone, benzo whatever withdrawal, I can handle. Neurontin withdrawal, I would not hesitate to kill someone to avoid it. It's like benzo and opiate withdrawal combined with lots of other neurological symptoms. (haven't used stuff like either amphetamine or alcohol in years prior to the last month) On subutex program I was sober nearly all the time taking only the benzos and occasionally smoking weed.

and 6 months+ free and still no relief? go to hell worthless med, I feel like life has screwed me over bigtime

So now I no longer care much, I can't endure the pain, I try to use whatever to keep it at bay, I rotate between nsaids (when I have to be sober) cannabis, opiates (which failed quite quickly) benzos and alcohol. I feel like i'm on the verge of relapsing into all my old addictions. But however bad they may be, I can get rid of them again.

I could never ever go through this again, knowing I would suffer withdrawal for 7 months+, I'd do anything to avoid it. Otherwise I'd try and get back on and just taper.

I am unlucky I guess to have these symptoms, maybe they were caused by quitting the benzos and neurontin at the same time I fear sometimes, don't remember much except laying in bad seeing flashing lights not sleeping for two weeks and feeling pain that gave 300mg methadone withdrawal a run for it's money

Taking more neurontin eradicated these symptoms the 2nd week, I relapsed. Since then it's been 196 days now, and I see no light at the end of the tunnel

I don't know what I should do, I see no solution to my problem.

I think I regret taking neurontin as much as I regret taking heroin. This simply sucks, again, murphys law in full effect for Toz. Did it all for nothing, in fact everything got worse.

Had it not been for taking it, I would be sober and happy now working toward getting a normal life.

Instead, all I do is crave drugs to ease my pain, I hate myself every day for doing this. I would have been better of staying on maintenance. But I had enough of it, should have tapered like doctor told me, but I had enough of him and the whole clinic too. In fact I had enough of everything, felt like I might lay and wait to die, I was so numb nothing was good nor bad. Figured change would help, should have known it would all go to hell, it seems to always do for me.
 
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I'm ready for the Super Bowl. Gonna hold off till about 5 to smoke my first hit of weed for today since I only got a bowl left, then I'm getting some liquor and I have a buddy who is bringing me weed before the game and he's gonna smoke me up.

We better win tonight cuz I'm on a shit talking spree so so I don't wanna look like a dumbass haha
 
I wonder if I can call someone and pay them to buy me snus/cigarettes and chewing gum. It's worth a try, even though it is a bit late. I want it delivered to my door without having to walk the agonizing 7 minutes. Standing in line also not really desired for me at the moment, really burnt out.

Yea I'm that lazy at the moment.
 
Toz lol I didn't mean being truely sober. I was talking about getting high , then stopping for 2-3days, rinse and repeat

I think you need some hobbies my friend, and I think you definitely need to diet and exercise better and more often. Trust me from a fellow drug user to another, you need exercise . Working out will get you higher when you get high. I exercise, or started exercising 4 times a week, and it has helped with depression, anxiety, and helps me enjoy my high. No no joke, I get higher now then I did before , and with adding in day intbetween drug use and T-breaks havw heplped tremedoisly. I am literally soo happy.


Lol smoke, your a ravens fan eh? I want them to win too, dick san Fran beat my falcons

Sounds like fun as fuck
 
piracetam is crap. i just passed out for an hour. blergh.

gonna try modafinil tomorrow...

toz @ neurontin withdrawal... i feel your pain. i was on lyrics (pregabalin) the more potent version of the stuff for 6 months at 600mg a day. I quit everything else cold turkey, benzos, opiates whatever, but the pregabalin no way. when i tried to quit c/t i went absolutely fucking mad, as in my mood was on a emotional roller coaster that wouldn't end. it was literally hell on earth and i didn't know how to get out of it. i had to taper off it for A WHOLE YEAR and toward the end of taper @ 25mg, cause they are the smallest size caps, i had to even buy the super expensive liquid 1mg/ml stuff - which was outrageous. never will i fall into that trap again.
 
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I wonder if I can call someone and pay them to buy me snus/cigarettes and chewing gum. It's worth a try, even though it is a bit late. I want it delivered to my door without having to walk the agonizing 7 minutes. Standing in line also not really desired for me at the moment, really burnt out.

Yea I'm that lazy at the moment.

im sure you could. people do anything for that cashish nowadays. :)

Lol smoke, your a ravens fan eh? I want them to win too, dick san Fran beat my falcons

Sounds like fun as fuck
lol. fuck yeah imma ravens fan. i lived there till 16 then i moved to delaware/ocean city, md area and ive spent about a year on and off living in bmore since then, including this past october when i was living there but we see how that worked out. haha

we better fucking win tho. at least ill be nice and wasted if we dont.

ended up smoking a couple rips outta the bowl i saved even tho i was gonna wait till 5 to hit it, im high af. gonna get a shower in a little while then go up to the liquor store and get a 5th and smoke a cig with my homegirl i used to work with cuz its in the same shopping center.

its gonna be a awesome night. =D
 
Toz lol I didn't mean being truely sober. I was talking about getting high , then stopping for 2-3days, rinse and repeat

I think you need some hobbies my friend, and I think you definitely need to diet and exercise better and more often. Trust me from a fellow drug user to another, you need exercise . Working out will get you higher when you get high. I exercise, or started exercising 4 times a week, and it has helped with depression, anxiety, and helps me enjoy my high. No no joke, I get higher now then I did before , and with adding in day intbetween drug use and T-breaks havw heplped tremedoisly. I am literally soo happy.


Lol smoke, your a ravens fan eh? I want them to win too, dick san Fran beat my falcons

Sounds like fun as fuck

oh well, I was to eager to resume building the wall off text again, I need to pay more attention :p

It was exactly that I tried, and it lasted a month, first it felt like a cold, then it felt like the flu (the days between opiates) and then the last day I had a hit, it sent me into full blown withdrawal as if I had been using for a year. I tried again one month after that when it was over, but ended up using that 4;th day and there we go back again to square one. So now some days ago I dug a hole threw the opiates in and I'd like to think I've buried the problem for now. But knowing myself, I'll likely be digging myself another hole instead. Actually I already started by doing amphetamine to get high for the first time in like 3 years? I think it was that long ago. Benzos and alcohol seem more tempting now too, and I never enjoyed alcohol before. But it kills the pain so it's welcome, benzos don't really but they make me not care so much+stops anxiety/cold sweat/insomnia.

I want to start hitting the gym again, if not for any other reason than to get bigger veins (yes lol), mine sucks to shoot up in. Would do it, but the pain at the moment is just too much (or my motivation to do anything is lacking because of it). I don't excercise much now, but I used to as much as I could during summer. You don't want to go outside in the constant darkness and -17c when in withdrawal. That temperature alone is pain even when I am healthy. Excercise however, unlike during opiate withdrawal when it offers alot of relief, doesn't help against the nerve pain at all. During summer I used to jog/walk at least 10km / day. I liked it, since it took my mind of things. Now if I go out, my snot instantly freezes to ice while pain is increased alot.

Feels just not worth it, still I go out when it's not so damn cold, unfortunately when I consider it warm here at this time of year it's -5c or more.

I know regular excercise etc helps you get higher, I used to gym 3 days a week when I started doing heroin. Eventually it was less gym and more heroin though, then there was more heroin and less everything else, eventually there was only heroin and other drugs.

Maintenance therapy I was on for a short time, I paid for my own pills for several years, it helped me get my life back together. I couldn't really stand being prisoner to the clinic (subutex controlled as methadone here in sweden). They wouldn't let me smoke weed, which I hated. Eventually tapered down to 2mg and found an addiction specialist that could prescribe me temgesic off label, also prescribed me ritalin and benzos.

Things were fine for some time. then my girlfriend overdosed and was forced into a "rehab" if you could call it that, for 6 months involuntarly stay (yes they can do this here, unlike jail, you get no phonecall or lawyer if immediate effect decision). This sent me spiraling into depression, she managed to call me sometimes I don't really know how but she was crying all the time, appearently one of the personell emplyed had beat her up for using the phone one time. I said I would go there and take her away and show him how much I love guys who hit girls. Especially my girl. She dissuaded me from doing this, I guess it would only have made things worse as she said, but it hurt me so much, I felt helpless. There was no help here, it was simple cash cow herding.

When she got out, she went to visit a friend and when she came back I didn't recognize her. She had been doing large amounts of stimulants and was delusional. I thought she would just sleep it off, but the next day I awoke and my money and drugs are missing and she is ranting and raving about some text I have to see which read like Q#E/)#&)%&(#!/Q on my computer screen. I was annoyed at this time, I asked where my money was (it was all my earnings for that month) and she had no idea. I managed to retrace her steps and found half of, the drugs I found 2 years later when she remembered where they were (hidden under some pavement at a day care center ffs). Anyway the police came by asking me if I had seen a crazy lady running around throwing stuff raving about whatever and I told them yes ----> that way lol, thankfully she was occupied with someone that didn't exist in another room at that moment. The day ended however in her being extremely paranoid thinking I was going to kill her, before I knew it, a drawer hit me in the head and she came at me with a kitchen knife. By now I had had enough, I had to subdue her and call her father to come help me. It was really horrible. Thankfully I had trained Judo for some years. Someone could have been hurt otherwise had I not been quick to disarm and subdue her.

After this, she got sent back, to the same place, for the same time, but this time I got no phonecalls almost. I was now even more depressed, started using drugs again because I felt lonely and I was thinking how they were treating her there, not really knowing anything.

After she came back from that, something was off. All she ever wanted to do was drugs, I started to feel like her dealer only. Eventually I got sick of everyday use, told her I wanted to quit and that was that. She took off in a few weeks, taking with her some pills and money and I never heard from her again. By this time I had been cut off by my doctor, because I constantly missed appointments and was always fucked up, I had started failing my studies and it was all going downhill.I was shooting up all the time several times a day / opiates and stims. I had also developed a dependancy to benzos, something I would never even have thought of before. It had to end.

So I got on maintenance, again. From my own wallet. Paid for the subutex, I could afford it since I knew someone who sold it cheap. Then from there it was a relapse to heroin and then to real maintenance and then cold turkey after complaints of benzo and weed use + I was sick of it anyway and from here on you know the story if you had the energy to keep up with the last wall of text lol
eh what was I going to post? I think I got sidetracked here a bit, don't even remember what I started writing about in the beginning

eh wait what was the initail topic here? think I got sidtracked a bit lol

edit: I think I got sidetracked writing the sidetracked reply, as there obviously already was one.
Now there is a 3rd if someone missed it.
 
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