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duanomatic

duanomatic

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For the first time, I have a fair share of MDMA (tanish from holland) and bk-MDMA (clear-ish white shards from China) at my disposal. Up until two months ago, I had never tried bk-MDMA, but heard about it. It wasn't bad, it left something to be desired from a good MDMA roll, but was peppier and more energetic. It lacked that magic touch, though for the first hour there was a high level of empathy, just a peg below Molly.

I was wondering if it would be safe to comine MDMA and bk-MDMA for consumption. I'd like to harness the pep of the bk-MDMA and the cuddly and empathy of the MDMA. In the past i've dosed with some amphetamine (racemic) sulfate with molly to make sure I didn't melt on the dancefloor, lol.

Thanks.
 
no point in combining the two imo. just dose one or the other depending on what you want. mdma will always be superior though because it gets you higher, whereas the bk does not get you as high as straight mdma though still has all the shitty negative comedown effects.
 
nevr tried them myself but others like the combo and I don't recall many saying it had adverse effects. the only danger is going overboard on the BK-MDMA because it is shorter lived and very "more-ish". people end up taking more BK-MDMA than they intended to.
 
Mods, please move this into the appropriate Sub Forum

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-and-other-empathogens-MDMA-MDA-and-MDE-oh-my!



I would NOT do this combo though. Just stick to the MDMA. Methylone has a much higher affinity for dopamine and norpinephrine than MDMA does, and as such it will add a lot more side effects to the experience.

There's really no point.. you'd probably be better off with extremely small doses of amphetamine to be honest. Maybe a 5 hour energy, they work great. It's not just the caffeine, they give your body the fuel it needs to party all night... a pill can't do that!
 
Thanks guys. I figured as much, just was wondering if I could get an experience report on somebody who took both in the same night or together. There wasn't anything on Erowid on this combo.
 
^ The MDxx and Empathogen thread will (hopefully) serve that function from now on. Hopefully they announce the new mod soon and things start changing around here




http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-and-other-empathogens-MDMA-MDA-and-MDE-oh-my
MDAI/6-APB/Methylone and other emphathogen RCs may also be discussed, but be warned as these are all new chemicals and their safety profile is unknown. Anyone combining RCs with MDMA should make sure there are no interactions between the two before hand and start with a low dose of each and work their way up. Side effects may greatly increase with drugs like methylone, as it releases higher levels of norepinephrine and lower levels of serotonin.
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Morpheus19 said:
I know quite a few people who really enjoy that combination, it is said to be way more intense than mdma or bk-mdma on its own. This could also be the case because the two somehow compete for metabolization, so the experience gets more intense, even if you take a dose that seems to be on the low side.
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Thanks morph, I may give it a go. I just need to make sure there aren't any counteractions or anything, which there shouldn't be. They are so similar.
 
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but even though bk-MDMA is a serotonin releaser and reuptake inhibitor, the reuptake is the stronger side. I was under the impression MDMA likes to be a releaser. So there would be blockage, a little bit would be taken away from the MDMA high. Right? I would think mixing would make the bk-MDMA cause crappier side effects.
I could be wrong.
But I think if you know your MDMA is tested to be pure, why dirty up the experience?
If you got jipped on some bulk of crap pills then maybe I'd try to have some fun with mixtures.
 
Folley said:
Mods, please move this into the appropriate Sub Forum

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...-and-other-empathogens-MDMA-MDA-and-MDE-oh-my!
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Folley said:
The great thing about moving a post into the MEGA thread, is that you can still get the best of both worlds. The OP can post his personal experience and get answers on his own situation, and when discussion starts to die down it can be moved into a Sub Thread and saved for later
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Give it time :\

OP: I know that taking MDMA while on Mephedrone was a waste of MDMA.
 
Laika said:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but even though bk-MDMA is a serotonin releaser and reuptake inhibitor, the reuptake is the stronger side.
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Yeah that's correct.. So in theory is might decrease the amount of 5-ht being released.. But it's affects on DA, I think, are stronger.. Sounds good to me ;)
 
It would seem like you'd have less negative effects if you did meth for a night then, if that's what you're chasing, no?
 
^ That's basically what I was getting on at, and methylone is quite heavy on the norepinephrine side as well and that neurochemical has been attributed to a lot of side effects.. at least from what I have seen posted by trusted members of this forum.
 
Whatever floats your boat doesn't sink mine :)
I wasn't trying to tell you how to do your drugs or anything. Just throwing in 2 cents, really.

Maybe mix MDMA and Methamp would be up your alley too though?
 
Honestly I REALLY recommend 5 hour energy if you're just looking for more energy. The caffeine is good, yeah.



But the B vitamins and other nutrients give your body the fuel it needs to naturally make you energy. Pills can't do this.

Methylone is a pretty poor choice IMO if you're just looking to add stimulation to the roll, but a lot of people have had an amazing time on it so it's up to you.
 
well if you want just a bit of dopamine push simply add some speed, thats what most people do for dancing. i personally dont find methylone very energetic anyway and it can give some bad side effects plus it is shorter lasting than mdma so you will need to redose. mdma + speed = best dancy combo ever <3
 
All the talk of the methylone I got sounds like I got something COMPLETELY different. It was just waves of euphoria, when I dosed at 100mg it felt like I was coming up on mdma but never quite getting there for the entire high, never got any real stimulation EXTREMELY easy to fall asleep afterwards even at 180mg, as if I hadn't done anything at all. The next day felt fine as well, got some mid-weeks blues as I do with mandy but thats it for negative side effects. For me mdma is definately more energetic and brings about more stimulation and way more negative side effects. I'm 100% certain what I get is mdma is mdma, can't tell you about methylone for sure, but from reports it seemed legit. As for amphetamines and mdma, only done that combo once, but god damn it was nice, if you're not worried about your brain fucking go for it. You come down of the mdma and you're sitll energetic and in a good mood, very pleasant indeed.
 
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