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MDMA vs SSRI vs Natural remedies vs Depression/anxiety

will402

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Hello all.

Im currently taking sertraline for anxiety/depression.

It was rough at the time but when I think about it, I could have survived with out the SSRI's
its been two months since I started but the side effects are starting to piss me off and I am also feeling alot brighter (with the help of therapy I have dealt with alot of the issues)

ANYWAY my question I want to try natural stuff for my moods to keep them up, but I love MDMA and would like to know what is the best thing to take for depression whilst using mdma every know and then.

Thanks chaps
 
maybe I am alone here on this one but...drugs come with consequences. if you are unwilling or unable to deal with those consequences then you should not be doing drugs. MDMA use comes with depression afterward. deal with it.

a person with depression issues should not use MDMA because it can cause your depression issues to be worse. and not for just a few days after using either. the depreswsion could be long lasting. turning to another drug to aleaviate post MDMA depression is just adding to the problem.

If you do choose to use MDMA, staying active and living a healthy life style is the best way to ward off the MDMA blues.
 
I'm in the same boat, taking Prozac and will occasionally do MDMA. I usually just deal with it. Like matt2012, it's a drug, it'll have its side effects when the high is over. I usually have some hydro waiting for me the next day, or two (Which takes away the blue, but DOES NOT help your Seratonin level go back to normal). As for natural, 5-HTP is the only thing i've heard of and tried which you can get at Walgreens. Sometimes SSRIs will completely block out the x if takin orally which is why I always snort.
 
Yeah I know all this what im saying is...................................... I want to do a course of natural supplements to help with depression (which is only mild) I know St Johns Wort for example is very good but can be dangerous when mixed with MDMA. So I am asking what is the best course of natural supplements which will allow MDMA use.

And please this is a drug forum not parents evening, I know about comedowns this isnt what I am talking about
 
I'll tell you what's probably better than supplements for mild depression.

Exercise.

Go running erryday.
 
I'll tell you what's probably better than supplements for mild depression.

Exercise.

Go running erryday.

Fantastic advice. Take plenty of vitamins too. Have you looked into Nootropics? Piracetam? They've been shown to have anti-depressent and anti-anxiolytic effects.
 
no I havn't this is exactly the advice I was looking for. Im becoming a healthier person with exercise and better diet. I am also taking magnesium and Vit B compound. Any other vitamins that help? I hear fish oil is great? I guess that would be the omega 3

Ginkgo? has anyone tried this?

I am really angry at the way anti depressants are thrown at us, currently going through withdrawal now!
 
I've experienced similar.. i'm trying to find the best cure, apparently paxil works great but i do try to avoid ssri's and am about to give buproprion a shot beforehand. definitely put vitamin C and b12 in your system the day of dosing, it can never hurt and besides vitamin c does miracles in immunity heck maybe even 'neuroimmunity' as well to toxic love like mdma. wish you the best
 
Anti-depressants are deffintly literally handed out... Have been offered by my doctor to go on anti-depressants atleast 6 times now, I did end up on zoloft for 4 days against my own promise to never go on an SSRI but I had manic wild mood swings and didnt have much choice turns out I probably never needed them... I've got heavy fatigue and my doctor is trying to put it down to depression and offering me anti depressants again... Need fucking amphetamine for that.

MDMA is deffintly a no-no for depression, however has been used succesful in depression from certain life events such as PTSD but you need to know what your doing with it, if its a chemical imbalance MDMA will actually make it worse.

Go for SJW, give it a shot first - some people claim its a godsend within 2 hours they can feel a mood lifting affect, me included, some people take it for weeks and feel nothing. Theres a lot of talk about different brands and even different batches of the same brand all vary in potency - dose would have an impact aswell. Theres another herb that has been used for depression called Sceletium, howevr I cant find too much information about it.

Exercise and keeping active, diet especially, getting your mind off it and ultimately dealing with the issue that is causing depression or anxiety (if there is one) can help, if there isnt one... As yourself - WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU DEPRESSED?! That question alone has pulled people out of a depression.

Cognitive behaviour therapy is also an option :)
 
You might want to look at psilocybin, if you have access to mushrooms. It's being looked at as a depression treatment, and personally I've found it useful in treating some really brutal comedowns, when I abused mdma. I know you're looking for a general remedy not one for a comedown, but research has shown it slows down activity in parts of the brain that are often overactive in people with depression.
I've had depression a long time ago, at a time in my life that I wasn't using anything other than weed and alcohol. I found giving those up for a while helpful. I didn't find SSRIs or SJW effective for me.
Good luck with finding what you want. What ever else you find or take, the key to beating it is fully dealing with the issues that caused your depression in the first place.
 
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