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MDMA lost it's magic. MDA?

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wesleyar

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I've come to the conclusion after my last three rolls that I've lost the magic. No, I'm not getting bunk MDMA or anything, I thought the same until I got a kit and started testing after the first time.

To those who have lost the magic or those knowledgeable in the concept, will MDA make me roll/give me the empathy feeling MDMA once did? I've taken MDA before and couldn't tell the difference except for more tracers but I just wanted to know if MDA will give me the empathy and tactile sensation back.

And for those who have lost the magic, has there ever been someone who actually got the magic back? How?
 
you should take a long break. listen to your body and take a year off, md will still be around in a years time. there is more to life than MDMA and its family! chronic depression awaits, though would you expect anything less from abuse?

as far as im aware mda is actually more neurotoxic / damaging to you. just form info gleaned from this site.

ps this 'magic' everyone speaks of is serious kiddy shit, like moon rocks, mandy, blah blah.
 
I'm not an abuser. My rolls were always spaced with months with my first roll that I lost the magic was after a 6 month break. I have no plans of jumping on the E train for a very long time if ever again, I'm just wondering for those who have experienced losing the magic if MDA still has it's effects similar to MDMA. You can say losing the magic is kiddy shit, I thought the same, then I experienced it. I still get very little tactile sensation and a body high though it's gone in less than an hour, but the good parts are gone. From what I've read and experienced I'm starting to believe the magic does not come back.
 
huh. i dont understand how you could lose 'the magic' if your not taking it often/abusing..
how old are you?
you seem to be contradicting yourself. you dont abuse though you think you have lost good effects, you don't want to take ever again but you want to know about mda...
honesty is the best policy on an anonymous online forum.
im confident after a long break all will be good.
ps i didnt imply/mean to imply frying your brain from abuse and 'losing the magic' and your was kiddy shit. i mean the mdma so called 'magic' is kiddy shit, it is hedonism on high.
 
You seem to be confused, you don't have to abuse it to lose the magic, many people have lost it just the way I have; It just disappeared. I'm 20. I didn't say I don't want to take it ever again, I said I won't be for awhile or I may never take it again. I'm sorry but you're derailing the thread in a sense, I'm not asking how to get the magic back less you have experienced losing and regaining it. I'm asking if MDA still works the same if the magic is lost.
 
if you are testing it and it comes back good, I dont know. remember these tests arnt 100% accurate and just guiding users into a direction of more likely getting mdma

As far as you losing what you call the magic and i like to call the pure mdma feeling, no other drug can produce this exact pure mdma feeling, mda, no you get some euphoria with mda, mdea,mdmia , not that well to those who done it you know the feeling =)

Like many people have said, there are more important things than mdma, and recreational drugs in general. Family, friends, work, your passions, exercises, nutrition. Its okay to stop doing mdma and give it a break and maybe stay in touch on this board once in a while just to keep in contact with whats going on and when your ready after a long break maybe try it again.
 
You seem to be confused
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maybe.
you don't have to abuse it to lose the magic
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can you back that up with a reference? where did you hear that? doesnt sound right to me. did you hit your head?
I'm sorry but you're derailing the thread in a sense
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im sorry, should i see myself out?
I'm not asking how to get the magic back less you have experienced losing and regaining it
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i abused the fuck out of mdma for a few years. started getting fucked up come downs, the high was never that high, and i had a hopeless tolerance. took two points on friday, the first dose in 4months, before that i had taken about 10 months off (dosed twice in the past year). i had full effects from the 2points. in hindsight 2points was probably too much 2/3rds would have been more than sufficient. hence my suggestion of taking a good long break and listening to yyour body.
like this ^ guy said. MDMA is MDMA, it is unique...like you say it has 'MAGIC'...you wont get that magic from mda, not so much empathy and love, pretty colours yeh, love errm no not so much. btw can you describe your mdma 'magic'?

it sounds to me like you are asking to cheat yourself by getting the positive effects that mdma offer from something else...wont happen

are you asking if mda is cross tolerant with MDMA? or if you can get the mdma high from mda? :)
 
OP, just thought I'd share that MDMA no longer works on me due to past abuses. When I take it, I have a peak experience for about 10 minutes and then it vanishes completely. It's as though the receptors down-regulate instantly and stop the high.

I discovered this past summer if I take half each of an MDMA and MDA dose together, then I will get the MDMA high. I don't know why this works, it just does.
 
I know what the OP is saying- perhaps its not a cellular tolerance but is more mental- perhaps you're bored of the high or maybe the setting you take it in? set and setting are very important. Just like the OP i ensure i take breaks between MDA (month +, atm its been about 3 months) but about a year nack i yhought i was losing the magic- i used to love sitting at mates houses smoking bongs, listening to music and getting munted but in the end the highs just didnt have that sparkly magic to em. now i try to mix it up a bit by going to the city or festivals and forcing myself to dance (instead of sitting around minted) and ive had no problems since then.. just my theory and personal experience
 
perhaps you're bored of the high or maybe the setting you take it in? set and setting are very important
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fair point.
I discovered this past summer if I take half each of an MDMA and MDA dose together, then I will get the MDMA high. I don't know why this works, it just does.
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interesting.

so does mdma and mda have cross tolerance?
 
maybe im being a little cynical but i think someone has posted on here before about losing the magic.

great thread.
 
Mda is very similar to MDMA. So yes I'm pretty sure there is a cross tolerance. Also I've read mda lacks the empathy MDMA gives so if your looking for that in MDa the empathy is going to be quite less.

It sounds like your problem is your bored with the drug. Try a different atmosphere with your MDMA/mda. Set and setting play a big part in your roll. Also mindset does too.
 
Yeah I've lost the magic too. I do 300-400mg every 3 or 4 weeks. I'm hoping to just not do anything for a while now...but if a club night comes up, we do it!

The main thing I've lost is the warmth thing and also I don't smile much on E any more. Apparently I look wrecked with 'ecstasy jaw' and sure I have a hard time seeing the screen on my phone or spelling. But I don't feel anywhere near as high as I used to.
 
lostsoul.On.E said:
Mda is very similar to MDMA. So yes I'm pretty sure there is a cross tolerance. Also I've read mda lacks the empathy MDMA gives so if your looking for that in MDa the empathy is going to be quite less.

It sounds like your problem is your bored with the drug. Try a different atmosphere with your MDMA/mda. Set and setting play a big part in your roll. Also mindset does too.
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I found it to be the opposite. MDA made it a much more heart centred experience.
 
Altough I don't want to push drugs on people (I never tried this myself)

A lot of my friends who overdid mdma, swear by mdma+ghb combo.

2 hours after dropping take some ghb, and appearantly it's like the first time you ever did mdma, only 10x more awesome. A lot (who only roll 2-3x a year now) won't even take mdma without ghb now, even if they have 0 tolerance. Altough they take ghb at the end of the roll (after 4-6 hours) but since mdma doesn't work that great for you I'd say 2.
 
if its not the strength of the drug then I conclude its a mix of tolerence, your higher expectations and past expieriences to compare by and the environment you take it in. When I first took MDMA I could literally orgasm just by holding and squeezing someones hand. It truly was the whole fairyland exp for me. But it never lasts and that my friend is the nature of all drugs. You wont ever feel that euphoric, sexual, tactile magic as intensley again simply because its no longer shiny and new and full of the unknown. Also sooooooooo many things affect the buzz. Your mood at the time, the people you are with, the atmosphere etc. Id love to go back to that first time over and over again but its never gonna happen because Im not that person anymore......my body cant be so easily aroused now
 
Personally I prefer MDA over MDMA, the high I get is a lot more intense and more psychedelic. I have taken MDMA about 3 or 4 times, each time being great but nothing compares to MDA in my eyes.
I dont find it AS euphoric but I find it gets to work on me a lot better, gives me tonnes of confidence, can completely function as normal on it, makes me think about life a lot, makes me want to figure out how we got here every time Im rolling.

The worst part of MDA for me is the long ass wait for the come up, usually for me its 1.5-2.5 hours before i feel any come up, however there has been times where I have came up with in the hour, to me it all depends what sort of mood you are in, whats in your stomach etc.
MDA made bonding with new friends a hell of a lot better than on MDMA, music was so much better, and masturbation while rolling? Best thing I have came across, better than sex.

I would just take a month or two off getting wiped, try MDA (first time I took a 160mg capsule of MDA powder) and see how it goes for you. I highly recommend MDA over MDMA, have always done and always will.

Have fun with whatever your doing, just remember, do not mix an MAO-I with E's, unless you want a one way ticket to heaven.
 
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