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Marijuana, Our sperm, and the Future of the World

bunge said:
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Interesting little reads, thanks.:-D a 28% reduction in mobility is quite a distinct decrease and even more interesting is that it was tested at recreational levels and not blasted with insane amounts if delta 9 to provoke a result. Would be interesting to see a separate study involving the other active ingredients, cannabinols etc. unfortunate that the second link was a bit sparse, I tend to take most ice studies as not very accurate gwhen applied to human subjects
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Mice models are actually quite accurate, particularly with regards to something like this, as it's not testing a type of tissue or organ or function which is distinct to human/ whichs humans are radically different from animals. (i.e. like neuroscience). Mice testicles and sperm are really almost the same as human.
 
bunge said:
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Interesting little reads, thanks.:-D a 28% reduction in mobility is quite a distinct decrease and even more interesting is that it was tested at recreational levels and not blasted with insane amounts if delta 9 to provoke a result. Would be interesting to see a separate study involving the other active ingredients, cannabinols etc. unfortunate that the second link was a bit sparse, I tend to take most ice studies as not very accurate gwhen applied to human subjects
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bunge said:
Thanks again for the links, I feel a little wiser now then when I woke up this morning!lol :-D
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See. This thread could have been a bunch of this ^^^ If ya'll had come in with some facts like you are now, instead of just saying "This is stupid" like you did before.
 
this entire thread including every post after the op is one giant lol

rangrz you should of given up early and not get so involved. it reeks of troll bait. i think these kinds of threads are "what if" and not based on any preexisting facts.

thanks for the laugh shaggy

here is a picture of a lemming

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Simmer down everyone. OP that stupid website highdeas might have been a better spot for this half-baked nonsensical thought tangent, seeing as the quality of 95% of their posts is awful these days.

rangrz said:
It is about science.
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Exactly, this is supposed to be a science-based harm reduction website.
 
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Dr. Rabid said:
Exactly, this is supposed to be a science-based harm reduction website.
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The he should have started with science behind this subject, instead of talking about how he has been in labs and shit. People learning about what Cannabis does to your sperm is better for harm reduction than someone saying "OP is dumb".
 
Jibult said:
so what'd we learn in this thread, shag man?
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That genetics are not effected (via Marijuana vs sperm production) and lower sperm count comes over time from lower oxygen levels or some other factor, not from the THC or marijuana directly.

So it would take MANY generations of HEAVY HEAVY HEAVY marijuana users (and you would probably have to use around your children, and most likely grow to sustain all this) to see ANY genetic adaptation from Marijuana (and the adaptation would probably not be noticeable), and then it is still only a slight possibility.
 
OP's logic wasn't flawed, but his facts were.

Still, an interesting science fiction topic, and nowhere near as lousy of a thread as some of you guys are making it out to have been.

I'd rather read about stuff like this than 'weed sweats' and mouldy buds.
 
rangrz you should of given up early and not get so involved. it reeks of troll bait. i think these kinds of threads are "what if" and not based on any preexisting facts.
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Lol, I was logged into journal article databases, and searching science literature anyways, it was not too much an effort or tangential side tracking for me.
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
OP's logic wasn't flawed, but his facts were.

Still, an interesting science fiction topic, and nowhere near as lousy of a thread as some of you guys are making it out to have been.

I'd rather read about stuff like this than 'weed sweats' and mouldy buds.
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Thanks :D
 
So Pretty much saying we will one day be tolerant to weed completely just because sperm is not dying? ( even if weed does kill sperm ) Tight underwear also "lowers sperm count" But I don't know if we will be walking around with titanium Undies any time soon based on evolution through sperm. Also Does smoking weed cause anything "bad" to the ovum? sperm is just 23 of the chromosomes so I don't think tolerance passed on through this method is really plausible.

Who knows leave a note to your great-great-great-great grand child asking hey if your not getting high my bad. Lol
 
It looked like a mod asked me for proof :D Their asking for proof comment is gone, but I decided it's still a good idea.







This makes it sound like the sperm are maybe even stoned and swim weird, so I may have been right after all, just not about it killing sperm. But still only the sperm that are best at swimming stoned would make it :D
Men who smoke marijuana frequently have significantly less seminal fluid, a lower total sperm count and their sperm behave abnormally, all of which may affect fertility adversely, a new study in reproductive physiology at the University at Buffalo has shown.
This study is the first to assess marijuana's effects on specific swimming behavior of sperm from marijuana smokers and to compare the results with sperm from men with confirmed fertility. Marijuana contains the cannabinoid drug THC (tetrahydrocannabinol), which is its primary psychoactive chemical
http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/a/blub031013.htm






And this study seems to agree with me
Scientists at Buffalo University found regular smokers had significantly less seminal fluid, and a lower sperm count.

Their sperm were also more likely to swim too fast too early, leading to burn-out before they reach the egg.

Lead researcher Dr Lani Burkman said: "The bottom line is, the active ingredients in marijuana are doing something to sperm."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/3186686.stm





This one says I was right about it killing sperm directly, and it says it is "temporary" because they have receptors for marijuana. Seems I was also right about genetic mutation
Substance Abuse. Cocaine or heavy marijuana use appears to temporarily reduce the number and quality of sperm by as much as 50%. Sperm actually have receptors for certain compounds in marijuana that resemble natural substances and which may impair the sperm's ability to swim and may also inhibit their ability to penetrate the egg. (Alcohol itself does not appear to affect fertility unless it is so abused that it causes liver changes.)

Smoking. Smoking impairs sperm motility, reduces sperm lifespan, and may cause genetic changes that affect the offspring. Additionally, a 1999 study found that men who smoke have lower sex drives and less frequent sex.
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060927160139AAkrTjw
 
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If I started ejaculating on my growing medium would I earn more as an artist (profession that comes naturally to me) from smoking my sativa bud cause my seed would influence the type of "high" it produces ?
 
Fire&Water said:
If I started ejaculating on my growing medium would I earn more as an artist (profession that comes naturally to me) from smoking my sativa bud cause my seed would influence the type of "high" it produces ?
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Definitely not. Semen isn't going to effect your weeds "high". Maybe fertilize it.
 
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