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Avoiding a bad DMT trip?

happytoking

happytoking

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So luckily for me and my friend, DMT has found us :P It has been my friend and I's dream to take this fascinating drug and we just want to make sure we take the proper precautions. So from all our research we gathered you want to be in a relaxed, quiet, comfortable room with no distractions. Another thing we heard was that you want to dim the lights but not fully turn them off? Apparently you don't want to turn the lights fully off? My big question for you guys is dosage. Now I know you can't OD on DMT but what do you guys think a good amount is for your first time? I hear people say anywhere from 30-50mg. I was thinking about 35-40 would be good? We do want a breakthrough 8o haha. I have been meditating twice a day for the past year in TM meditation. Apparently very small amounts of DMT is released in your brain when you do this. I doubt it will affect not having a bad trip but I do plan on meditating for about 10-15 minutes right before the DMT so I am in a calm state of mind :) Any other suggestions you all would have for me? Thanks in advanced!
 
Your thoughts about setting seem to me very good. It's nice with a bit of light in the room, because it can lighten up your CEV's a bit.
The dosage depends on how you plan to take the drug. 30mg's should enough if you have a proper pipe. I have smoked DMT only on "The Machine" (you can find instructions on how to build it online) and have found that 30mg is enough for a breakthrough on that. You need more (maybe around 50mg), if you smoke it on a normal pipe without the steel wool of The Machine.
The most important thing is that you feel relaxed and comfortable when you try it. I don't know about the TM.

Good luck. DMT is wonderful :)
 
Nigeru Mono said:
Your thoughts about setting seem to me very good. It's nice with a bit of light in the room, because it can lighten up your CEV's a bit.
The dosage depends on how you plan to take the drug. 30mg's should enough if you have a proper pipe. I have smoked DMT only on "The Machine" (you can find instructions on how to build it online) and have found that 30mg is enough for a breakthrough on that. You need more (maybe around 50mg), if you smoke it on a normal pipe without the steel wool of The Machine.
The most important thing is that you feel relaxed and comfortable when you try it. I don't know about the TM.

Good luck. DMT is wonderful :)
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Thanks for the great response :) We plan to use either a bubbler or one hitter...Will that work? Also, is packing a bowl of DMT like packing ground weed? Any instruction on that would be wonderful :P All my friends who have tried it say it is a life changing experience and I get giddy at the thought of how cool this will be 8o
 
I would use the one hitter if I where you. BUT for best use of you precious DMT, I would definitely recommend building a pipe like The Machine. http://wiki.dmt-nexus.me/The_Machine
I find the DMT powder a bit more difficult to pack than weed, so be careful. You'll need a screen or a ball of foil to block the hole in the one hitter, otherwise the powder will fall into the pipe. You could also pack the bowl with some steel wool, to make a pipe similar to The Machine. Then you can melt the DMT into the steel wool (with indirect heat) and then heat the steel wool when you want to smoke it.
Be aware that the smoke it quite harsh and tastes a bit like plastic, so the smoking experience can be a bit uncomfortable until you release the smoke :)
 
We will try our best with making the machine. But if not we can definitely modify the bubbler. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are supposed to try to take 3 hits and rather quickly? Since its harsh will it be tougher to take the next hit?
 
That link is really helpful! Will definitely look into it more. Thank you so much for all the amazing info *_* Super helpful
 
if you use the bubbler id stay away from tin foil to plug the hole and pack a layer of ash from previously smoked weed instead, save yourself the Alzheimer's.
 
BCbakin said:
if you use the bubbler id stay away from tin foil to plug the hole and pack a layer of ash from previously smoked weed instead, save yourself the Alzheimer's.
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Thanks :) Are you sure I will get the full affect with the weed in there?
 
Bong buds dmt= breakthrough. One hit is all you will need if you do it right. my fav was dmt on the five foot plastic bong
 
Pot does according to make the trip less intense. Not in my opinion but others say it lessesn the trip
 
i would recommend packing a smaller size bowl with bud then putting the dmt on top of that, each time i have done dmt i have packed it on top of weed and i have broken through every time! i would also suggest that you guys go one at a time, the one who is not smoking at the time should encourage or kindly advise/remind the one who is smoking it to continue to hit the pipe. often times you will forget to keep hitting it because the effects take hold immediately. i packed .1 of a gram each time and that was enough to make me break through and still have a few hits after word still in the bowl. my other advice is to watch and learn, i have read and experienced that you CANT control a dmt trip, so don't try!!! if you are trying to control it you can become affraid of it because you will realize that you can't control it. my dmt trips are by far the most influential/ most memorable experiences of my life!!!! enjoy!!! hope i helped a little
 
edm-dood said:
i would recommend packing a smaller size bowl with bud then putting the dmt on top of that, each time i have done dmt i have packed it on top of weed and i have broken through every time! i would also suggest that you guys go one at a time, the one who is not smoking at the time should encourage or kindly advise/remind the one who is smoking it to continue to hit the pipe. often times you will forget to keep hitting it because the effects take hold immediately. i packed .1 of a gram each time and that was enough to make me break through and still have a few hits after word still in the bowl. my other advice is to watch and learn, i have read and experienced that you CANT control a dmt trip, so don't try!!! if you are trying to control it you can become affraid of it because you will realize that you can't control it. my dmt trips are by far the most influential/ most memorable experiences of my life!!!! enjoy!!! hope i helped a little
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Great info! Thank you :D
 
Even if 'bad trip' isn't really a proper term, there is definitely a difference between a confused trip and a centered one. For me meditating for a while (ideally like 30+ minutes) makes all that difference. Because if I don't, there are bound to be things on my mind, just anything happening during the day that I feel the reason to reflect on subconsciously. When right in the middle of regular mental activity I take DMT there is a fair chance that all those trains of thought go into loopings and backflips and those unimportant things in my mind get all jumbled up.
When I have meditated to prepare, I have wiped myself clear mentally and just feel peaceful attention to incredible visionary things happening in my mind's eye.

Unless your DMT is really extremely scarce, I don't understand why you would want to break through right the first time. Without any experience the chances are lower that you get the mental preparation and smoking technique all proper and right, so I highly recommend testing the waters first with no more than 20-25 mg. If you burn instead of vaporize, the harsh plastic acrid smoke can be really distracting.

Sometimes people say that lower doses lend themselves more to distraction because you are not pulled away entirely, but still I wouldn't do that the very first time because with improper smoking technique you won't get it all in. It can take some practice to get it right and it is better not to be far into hyperspace when you are still learning that.
 
Solipsis said:
Even if 'bad trip' isn't really a proper term, there is definitely a difference between a confused trip and a centered one. For me meditating for a while (ideally like 30+ minutes) makes all that difference. Because if I don't, there are bound to be things on my mind, just anything happening during the day that I feel the reason to reflect on subconsciously. When right in the middle of regular mental activity I take DMT there is a fair chance that all those trains of thought go into loopings and backflips and those unimportant things in my mind get all jumbled up.
When I have meditated to prepare, I have wiped myself clear mentally and just feel peaceful attention to incredible visionary things happening in my mind's eye.

Unless your DMT is really extremely scarce, I don't understand why you would want to break through right the first time. Without any experience the chances are lower that you get the mental preparation and smoking technique all proper and right, so I highly recommend testing the waters first with no more than 20-25 mg. If you burn instead of vaporize, the harsh plastic acrid smoke can be really distracting.

Sometimes people say that lower doses lend themselves more to distraction because you are not pulled away entirely, but still I wouldn't do that the very first time because with improper smoking technique you won't get it all in. It can take some practice to get it right and it is better not to be far into hyperspace when you are still learning that.
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This is exactly what I was looking for! :D Thanks! The one thing is me and my friend have been trying to get this stuff for a LONG time, so we don't really plan on doing it a second time :/
 
happytoking said:
have you seen the bad trip stories on DMT?? Scary as hell!!! lol
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I think people tend to call psychedelic trips that don't bring them immediate pleasure or personal growth a 'bad trip.' If you check out my trip reports, I have certainly had a few that scared the shit out of me...DPT comes to mind, and also an LSD trip or two. But when all was said and done, I can't call any of them bad because I was able to gain something from the experience. Maybe that is just me, but I stick with the idea that there are no bad trips (save for the odd circumstances I mentioned) if you can bring back something positive from the experience.

As for DMT, I've gone through more than a few grams in my career and I've never had anything remotely 'bad'. I've had some 'entity' encounters that became unnerving but DMT is such a quick experience I just don't see it as causing the extended panic reactions that I have had on DPT or LSD. But that is just me I guess.
 
Every time I smoked DMT I put the powder over a bowl of weed (used an herbal mixture containing damiana, wild dagga, skullcap once too), melted it with indirect heat as mentioned above, and ripped the bowl like normal. I second that the smoke is rather harsh and does indeed taste a lot like plastic.

Anyway, assuming your dose is sufficient for a breakthrough, you will have to take all precautions against a bad trip prior to smoking. I would just say play some ambient music, dim the lights, and be prepared for the ride of your life. Happy tripping!
 
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