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25I-NBOMe yesterday, pharmahuasca today - safe?

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blazR

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Hi,

I did 25I-NBOMe yesterday and wan't to give pharmahuasca a go if it's reasonable safe to assume that the NBOMe is metabolized or enough of it has left the system. It has been around 16 hours ago since last dose 25I and I have slept a good nights sleep.

Any thoughts on safety of this?

The pharmahuasca is with harmine or harmaline as the MAOi if that makes any difference.



Best regards
//blazR
 
I think everybody is going to suggest erring on the side of caution here. If nothing else the 25I will have caused severe tolerance and you will not get nearly as much out of the aya. Especially if you redosed as your wording suggests.

Theoretically there should be no issues with the 25I metabolites but the NBOMe series does seem to be full of surprises.

Ayahuasca isn't a fun, spur of the moment sort of experience and the fact that you're asking this makes me concerned that you have not properly thought about the dietary restrictions, let alone the implications of dosing two such powerful psychedelics two days in a row.
 
Transform said:
Ayahuasca isn't a fun, spur of the moment sort of experience and the fact that you're asking this makes me concerned that you have not properly thought about the dietary restrictions, let alone the implications of dosing two such powerful psychedelics two days in a row.
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This.

I wouldn't even want to think of taking an RC such as 25-I followed by Aya the next day...that's just insanity to me.
 
I am not sure about the halflife of NBOMe compounds but it feels like they take quite a while to trail off...

Personally I would never take that risk of taking a MAOI the day after a full serotonin agonist, seriously. And another very good point is raised: the tolerance would be such a damn shame that I would consider it foolish to trip again, let alone oral DMT.

Just wait a week, what is the big rush? :\
 
Thanks for the responses. I was quite unsure about the safety.

Haven't given tolerance much thought since dmt causes on tolerance apparently, i figured dmt was most likely gonna work either way.

Anyway, i decided to wait.
 
Transform said:
this makes me concerned that you have not properly thought about the dietary restrictions
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The diet actually was none or low-tyramine food.. Anyway, I decided to wait a week, maybe 2 before i try pharmahuasca(harmaline/harmine isolates + DMT fumarate).

I recently read that diet wasn't that much neccesary with "gentle" RIMA's like harmaline/harmine - does anyone have experience with not proper diet and RIMA's?
 
Uhm the only time I did Syrian Rue, I only avoided the really bad stuff like red wine... and I don't eat cheese anyway. But it's not like I really checked my meals for nutrient values.

Why do you ask? There should be a list of things to avoid on Erowid - just follow it. Personally I had no problem whatsoever because I consider virtually none of things vital to my diet or a pain in the ass to keep an eye on.
 
Solipsis said:
Why do you ask? There should be a list of things to avoid on Erowid - just follow it. Personally I had no problem whatsoever because I consider virtually none of things vital to my diet or a pain in the ass to keep an eye on.
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Okay, thanks for your reply.
I ask because it seems like foods to avoid while on MAOi are for the irriversible MAOi's like phenelzine and tranylcypromine.
 
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