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Addiction to porn: destroying western society sex life more than anything else?

The whorest of whores? So, how would you describe men who want to fuck dozens of complete strangers every day?
I would describe them as normal men, whereas those women as whores. This is so politically incorrect but IMO it is "biologically correct". Before you ask, I basically say that no such thing as a man-whore exists, by definition only a woman can be whore, yes.

I haven't read many books on this theme, have no real knowledge of biology but I'll explain what I know hehe. I'll only be happy to be corrected.

First of all, no matter how developed our brains are we are still controlled by basic animal instincts to a huge degree, we can control them to some degree but far from completely and those instincts are different for men and women. Almost all males of all species want to mate with as many females as possible, while almost no females of all species want to mate with as many males as possible. In most mammals male world, there is always a small number of alpha males who get to fuck many females in their life, then there are beta males who only fuck few times in their lives and in some species like wolves there are even many males who never get to reproduce in their whole life. On the contrary, virtually all females get to reproduce in their lives, but only with a rather small group of males - mostly those alpha males. The logic behind this is simple, sperm is not rare while egg cells are rare. If a male mates with low quality female, usually in a few hours or even minutes he can succesfully reproduce again, maybe this time with better quality female. Or not, it doesn't matter that much - everything counts for him because in few hours he can do it again. While if a female gets pregnant with low quality male, it will take hundreds times longer compared to males before she has another chance, so she better chooses more wisely.

Now, of course humans are very complicated compared to other mammals and there is no simple definition of what is quality male or female. Looks are not everything, personality, money, sense of humour, confidence etc. are all part of attractivity but I still think that if a man sleeps with 100 women, it's somehow better than a woman who slept with 100 different men.

I also think that if a women commits adultery, it's kinda worse than when a man does it. Because most men are able to have sex with foreign women without any developing emotional feelings to them, for women it's much harder. If a woman regularly sleeps with a man who is not her patner, there is bigger chance she'll leave her former partner and children because eventually she probably will fall in love, while a man can still love her old wife even if he prefers to have sex with other women. I also believe that having a mother is more important for a child than having a father, which kinda forces women not to fuck with strangers when they raise children, I realize this sounds very unfair but nature isn't too fair either.

BTW I can recommend this book Why men don't listen and women can't read maps, imo that's a great book everyone should read, it's easy to read yet still based on scientific facts and explains how mans vs womans brains are so different.

I want to make clear that I do NOT consider woman brain NOR women at whole inferior to males. Just different. No stupid law about equality of genders is going to change my mind.




Now back to porn. And back to site I mentioned in original post. I highly doubt http://www.yourbrainonporn.com has anything to do with feminists. I read several articles there today and not a single one said anything about objectifying women. I personally think that men are objectified by modern porn just like women, if not more. HC Porn makes look all women as insatiable creatures who will do anything to make a man cum, but at the same time it makes look all men as agressive idiots who must have gigantic penises, have no respect for women needs and are unable to feel anything but pleasure from degrading women.
When in fact I read that real men have worse ability to deal with breaking up with their loved partners because 1)they avoid crying (I read that crying is a very healthy thing and personally also feel such a strong block being a man that I haven't cried since childhood) and 2) have less developed emotional centers. Women very rarely commit suicides because their crush don't love them. Unlike men, which could imply men are actually more sensitive and fragile on the inside than women.


I don't think an average woman can understand the FRENZY I (and many other men who took stims at home having already high libido) came through when I was home alone for the first time while way too high on mephedrone, having opened tens if not hundreds of tabs of porn, whenever I was close to cumming I just clicked on another vid and thought "this is the most fascinating thing I ever saw.. wait a second, what's in that thumbnail?" Every new porn vid probably released more dopamine again and again and again so I masturbated for a long time before cumming, and when I finally found a vid worthy coming I just snorted another line and repeated the whole process since beginning.
Depression which appeared the following day wasn't caused just by the mephedrone itself IMO, it also had to do something with disgust of myself from watching so much porn. Is wanking for 18 hours worth stomach cramps, diarrhea, lowering self esteem and racing heart? Of course not, but a man thinks otherwise while being high on crazy libido inducing drugs like meph or coke or meth.


This is why I avoid taking euphoric and erotic stims while being alone because I know I would spend the whole time by doing only one thing which fucking sucks. If there is anyone nearby to talk it's easy to overcome this urge, else not.
Most people don't take these drugs and they still can get addicted to porn, as I said I wouldn't underestimate its power and there are probably many men who should consider abstaining from "watching" porn (who the fuck just watches porn and not masturbate?).


Damn that must be the longest post I ever wrote on any forum, I just find this topci really interesting and am home alone anyway.. just drinking beer, which is OK and won't cause me to wank :P
 
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^You honestly don't see the problem with your post? Honestly? You don't see how ridiculously offensive and sexist that is?

Guess I'll just go ahead and say that all men are immature pigs then. Cuz well, it's been proven that men mature more slowly. So I guess I'm entitled to make a general insulting assumption based on supposed biological differences right?
That's not even a good example because for fuck's sake you're completely inventing the fact that men want sex more than women.
 
Go ahead, do make "insulting" assumptions based on supposed biological differences. That's what I want. What I don't want is pretending that women are the same as men in everything (except physical differences as that's something not even most hardcore feminists can deny). Well you already made 2 by saying that all men are immature pigs and mature more slowly. I completely agree that men mature slowly, that has even been scientifically proven and I can see it myself when remembering boys vs girls behavior when I was attending high school (I'm 24 yr old now btw). An average 18 year old female can be called woman while average 18 year old male can only be called boy. I don't agree that all men are immature pigs though. Men of all age are maybe more childish and playful but that's not the same thing as immature imo.


Men want sex more than women, that's true, I don't see how ridiculously offensive and sexist was my post though. I wrote everything what I wrote mainly to explain why men are at much bigger risk for becoming addicted to porn, basically I'm saying women have advantage here because of their brains.
 
Honey, my example was ironic to prove how idiotic it is to insult a whole sex. You see, I'm not sexist.

Well actually, no, men don't like sex more than women, and I'm not quite sure how you would know that because well, correct me if I'm wrong, but have you ever been inside a woman's head? Your post is sexist because it's saying that only women can be whores and that men, however, are perfectly free to sleep with whoever they want because that's 'normal'. You need to take a look at yourself if you don't see the problem with that.

I never said women and men were the same but yeah as far as sexuality goes I'm absolutely convinced that's nothing more than social constructions. And as I was trying to demonstrate although you clearly missed the sarcasm, (wrongly) claiming women don't like sex as much --> those who have sex a lot are whores is like claiming men mature moer slowly --> they're immature pigs.
Although as I also said, that's not even a good example since it's not even TRUE that women don't like sex as much.
 
Men want sex more than women, that's true, I don't see how ridiculously offensive and sexist was my post though.

i think its the use of the term whore for women who have a lot of sex (the acctual definition being a prostitue-big difference). if i said most men dont like sex that much except those bloody gigolo's god dam it! you would think- hmm what bullshit

anyway i dont buy into the men want sex more than women. everyone has different sex drives and these vary from person to person.

you cannot speak for an entire sex when you are not even a female and say how much they want sex. what people want and people do are two different things and some people have more self restraint than others.

i have female friends who use a lots of dildo's/masturbate pretty often for the sake of convenience as when they are horny their judgement goes out the window...
 
I would make the generalization that women generally would go for quality over quantity when it comes to sex partners and are more selective than men, but I wouldn't say their desire for sex is any less....Of course, that's just a generalization based on my personal experiences and I've seen plenty of exceptions...

Also, not judging someone, male or female, for wanting to "fuck everything that moves" is one thing, but to say that actually going out and "fucking everything that moves" is just another choice that's no different or more unhealthy than anything else, I disagree with....

People who compulsively/addictively have to go out and constantly seek new partners all the time, usually have some fucking issues! And I'm not talking about someone who's just good with the ladies/men, that is uninhibited and open to fool around! I'm talking about people who just HAVE to go out and find ANYONE to fuck to feel okay, like it's a drug, those people are usually fucked in the head! Another generalization I guess, but hey, if you're the one sane person that fucks 365 different people every year, God Bless you!

Porn desensitizes you to real sex, it's fucked up if you watch too much of it.....

This moral relativism shit on BL gets old sometimes....
 
Why are Westereners so hung up about sex? Especially the British and Americans...I see nothing wrong with someone who likes to watch a lot of porn, or fuck alot.
 
^I don't think it's a purely anglo-Saxon thing...in any case I can say the 'promiscuous women are whores' stereotype is sadly very present in France as well. Although in general, France is much more open about sex than the US.
 
your post is weird man (6apb..) if you like the subject i recommend sperm wars and the mating mind to get a better understanding.

given the relatively recent development of effective contraception, the vast majority of sex (especially the kind we are talking about, "recreational" sex, if you will) does not lead to pregnancy, so that is an irrelevant factor. so what difference does it make how many "recreational" sexual partners a man or woman has? why would that justify labeling a woman a "whore"?
 
I have to agree with the ladies here: women want sex just as much as men. I think that surprises a lot of dudes because, if you're like me, when you were growing up you're trained to be nice (AKA be a doormat) to girls and you think it's their job to push you away and make you try harder. You don't realize that they actually want to have sex because you think it's their job to say no.

Base drives aren't everything. Men might be predisposed to want sex more, but life experience can swing you one way or the other. Take a guy who's raised in a loving, functional family with all his needs met. He marries his high school sweetheart pretty young and is totally fine with not having much sex for the rest of his life. Meanwhile there's a girl who has overprotective parents and when she turns 18 she leaves home wanting to have all the sex she can to make up for lost time, so she fucks half the guys in her college dorm and continues that pattern until much later in her life.

I do agree with 6apb on one thing: I've never heard of women masturbating 5x a day like some men can do. And I'm not talking about doing it on camera for money, I mean doing it purely because you like to play with yourself. Maybe one of you ladies can prove me wrong here, but I just don't see it.
 
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the whole women versus men evolution debate about who wants more sex is so full of crap

all the women i speak to want varying amounts equivalent to a males. and all the men think they want it more than the women but from what i see women want it just as much and the age of the pill has shown us that with freedom to not have babies we'll all do it as much as we want to.

so this whole men want to shag and women dont arguement- is poop
 
i dont think porn helps for sure, but you cant really point the finger at porn as all of society's ills

that website sounds like it has a hidden fundamentalist christian agenda or something 8)

nobody forces people to watch porn <sigh>
 
Why are Westereners so hung up about sex? Especially the British and Americans...I see nothing wrong with someone who likes to watch a lot of porn, or fuck alot.

retarded religious people. i think it has alot to do with penis envy as well.
 
What a load of sexist alarmist bullshit this thread is.

Women enjoying sex and viewing their sexual urges positively is something that should be celebrated, not torn down. The idea that women are supposed to be passive sexless flowers is just a way for insecure straight guys to stroke their own ego when they manage to fuck one of them...and if you're labelling a woman the whorest of whores ('whorest' isn't even a real word for fuck's sake) because she shows the same desire for sexual gratification that a man does, what are you actually saying?

Let's pretend that you're right and women really do have a substantially lower desire for sex than men. If some kooky anomalous woman is an exception to that rule, why does that make her a whore (I'm going out on a limb here and will assume you mean whore in a derogatory sense)? Why is it a bad thing rather than just a different thing? If a guy has a substantially higher sex drive than any of his buddies, is he a whore as well? What's the magical number of times someone's allowed to masturbate per day before they become a whore?

Regarding pornography 'destroying western society sex life more than anything else'..Jesus H Christ, if I rolled my eyes any harder I'd get friction burns.

Can people be addicted to porn? Of course they can. People can be addicted to anything. Does that make porn some kind of monstrous entity which is devouring healthy relationships left, right and centre? Fuck no. Porn in one form or another has been around since forever. It's not a perfect industry and it certainly has its flaws, but it's not innately destructive either. If someone is so addicted to porn that it's affecting their relationships or their health, that person has issues which would reveal themselves in some other way if the porn wasn't there.

Porn may be what they're fixating on, but it's not the cause of the problem.
 
What a load of sexist alarmist bullshit this thread is.

Women enjoying sex and viewing their sexual urges positively is something that should be celebrated, not torn down. The idea that women are supposed to be passive sexless flowers is just a way for insecure straight guys to stroke their own ego when they manage to fuck one of them...and if you're labelling a woman the whorest of whores ('whorest' isn't even a real word for fuck's sake) because she shows the same desire for sexual gratification that a man does, what are you actually saying?

Let's pretend that you're right and women really do have a substantially lower desire for sex than men. If some kooky anomalous woman is an exception to that rule, why does that make her a whore (I'm going out on a limb here and will assume you mean whore in a derogatory sense)? Why is it a bad thing rather than just a different thing? If a guy has a substantially higher sex drive than any of his buddies, is he a whore as well? What's the magical number of times someone's allowed to masturbate per day before they become a whore?

Regarding pornography 'destroying western society sex life more than anything else'..Jesus H Christ, if I rolled my eyes any harder I'd get friction burns.

Can people be addicted to porn? Of course they can. People can be addicted to anything. Does that make porn some kind of monstrous entity which is devouring healthy relationships left, right and centre? Fuck no. Porn in one form or another has been around since forever. It's not a perfect industry and it certainly has its flaws, but it's not innately destructive either. If someone is so addicted to porn that it's affecting their relationships or their health, that person has issues which would reveal themselves in some other way if the porn wasn't there.

Porn may be what they're fixating on, but it's not the cause of the problem.

Quoted for truth. I agree with all of this. And Effuzion....at certain times in my life, I have masturbated 5x a day just for the pleasure of touching myself. It is not a habit that sustains itself for certain, but I don't think I am so very unusual among women.
 
I think that real life sex in America is mostly a joke. Most people don't even know how to do it well or keep their bodies in shape or even clean sometimes. Really, most people who actually bother to make themselves look good are just doing it for frequent but shallow attention from strangers - a kinda narcissistic celebrity thing.

People just don't care. I know lots of couples who just aren't interested in sex and have very little of it. I can't find a girlfriend who has even a grain of romantic passion. It's like everyone is a zombie that goes to work, eats, and watches TV or facebook/tweets shitty stuff all day.

That's why porn is so big, their never was a lot of good sex in real life. When I've been in relationships my interest in porn instantly dropped to zero.
 
What a load of sexist alarmist bullshit this thread is.

Women enjoying sex and viewing their sexual urges positively is something that should be celebrated, not torn down. The idea that women are supposed to be passive sexless flowers is just a way for insecure straight guys to stroke their own ego when they manage to fuck one of them...and if you're labelling a woman the whorest of whores ('whorest' isn't even a real word for fuck's sake) because she shows the same desire for sexual gratification that a man does, what are you actually saying?

Exactly. The double standards displayed in this thread are ridiculous.
 
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