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Etizolam - My drug hell

scrooloose said:
i'm buying one more largish order of these purely to taper. I need 20mgs for a comedown,wether blistered or garage pressed i don't feel any difference between the two.

Fuckin hell,i've been on these daily for probably eight months. No regular pattern,here and there varying amounts daily ranging from 3,5,10,14,20. They make me relaxed and pleasant,like valium. I need to get off these purely so i can return to being a natural miserable cunt.
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You need to handle this damn carefully, my friend. There is plenty of advice online about how tapers should be structured (eg here - http://benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm) you're probably looking at a period of several weeks to months to bring that down slowly.

Ideally, you would want to switch to something like valium as a longer acting benzo. You should probably seek professional medical advice - I imagine that there is a variety of experience on this board of people getting medical help on benzo withdrawal. My only experience was extremely positive - a good friend of mine who was on 4mg+ of alprazolam a day went into a residential centre for several weeks where he was tapered off benzos, by switching him to valium. However YMMV - I guess it depends on how sympathetic your doctor is.
 
Glad to hear your over the worst, sounds awful, i take them a few times a week, reading stuff like that always stop me from going anywhere near abusing them, quite addictive little things quite enjoy them especially mixed with stuff, kinda pushed it before n took val and etiz days in a row n had some weird anxiety shit going on, different from stim n booze anxiety, was odd. pretty sure these tabs have a range amount in them dispite being sold as 1mg, dunno how sloppy the range is
 
knockando said:
Aye you're right, some folk just seem to suffer a complete failure of logic when it comes to drugs. Like, suggesting to use a scale so they know how much they're taking and being told they prefer to just dab at it.
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Off topic, but this is true. I heard reports of someone in the US who was on one of those "rave cruise" affairs, where a mystery drug called "ladies night" was being passed around. People were only to happy to dab, eat, snort bits of it. My source was horrified at this behaviour, and kept trying to point out to people that it could be any number of "research chemical" psychedelics. In the end it turned out to be 5-Meo-DALT which is luckily reasonably forgiving.
 
crazy, i know people like that around here, will stick anything up their nose, getting sold meph, ket, and it could be anything, ive said to people and they dont listen, hoof up massive lines of mysterious stuff they get off some dodgy fucker, we got this stuff ages ago just after the meph ban which must have sent my blood pressure through the roof, hands went completely red and weird, felt horrible and nearly ended up in an ambulance
 
specialspack said:
You need to handle this damn carefully, my friend. There is plenty of advice online about how tapers should be structured (eg here - http://benzo.org.uk/manual/bzcha02.htm) you're probably looking at a period of several weeks to months to bring that down slowly.

Ideally, you would want to switch to something like valium as a longer acting benzo. You should probably seek professional medical advice - I imagine that there is a variety of experience on this board of people getting medical help on benzo withdrawal. My only experience was extremely positive - a good friend of mine who was on 4mg+ of alprazolam a day went into a residential centre for several weeks where he was tapered off benzos, by switching him to valium. However YMMV - I guess it depends on how sympathetic your doctor is.
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All good advice. Trouble is,my doc,shrink think i'm completely of 'em. Yes i lied. Trouble with doctors,it's hit and miss whether you tell the truth or hold back. i like etizolam,but it's become a problem. I'm gonna have to taper the etizolam. My shrink will blow his top if he found out i take etizolam.

CK,i remember you posting re etizolam. How many a day mate could be wrong,was it 30 mgs a day?

Round here they dish out antidepressants/psychotic no probs,but valium ppffft. I once got a script for a days worth 50mgs after going a bit fruitloop,fucking plots and conspiracies. Had the odd low dose script a few times.
 
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Honestly couldnt tell you mate, round that 'fuckit' tail of a 5 year habit had some in propelyene glycol jacking that and anything else i could get my hands on, mandy gear ket etc into my arms, thats the last thing i remember before i woke up in hospital 3 days later with renal n liver problems :\ face was swelled 3x its normal size, was okay for aday or 2 psychologically probs due to val half life cause i was taking them aswel, diaz was always 80mg min but bounced up and down, plus etiz and other benzos on top, when itd left my system thoughi was a classic complete delusional psychotic nutter ugh, think back and just wanna strangle myself yaknow, i think i just wanted to die at that point doing all that
 
Sorry to hear about your benzo mishap, Izzy. I'm sure you now know a bit more about what they can do.

Treat etizolam as though it is Xanax, but with even more care. Seriously. A couple of mgs a day, for a few weeks, is enough to make some people withdraw.

Scroo: You need a diaz taper, I reckon. Try and taper off the etiz, though. If it's not working, then you're back to your GP or shady benzos. It's one or the other. Short half-life benzos are harder to taper, but you can try.
 
Shrink and doc have both told me i am not to have anymore valium, yet as far as they are concerned i no longer take etizolam. Anything below 5 mgs of etiz is not worth it and that includes blistered. I said 3 mgs in a previous post and was managing a relatively successful taper. I went through a lot of stressfull shit last year.blah.blah...etizolam was/is my calmer,my saviour.
 
I never understand people that take benzos everyday. I took maxium 1 5mg valium after hangover. I had social anxiety and shit in past, now its minimum, when you get older it passes on its own.
 
ColourfulKronos said:
Honestly couldnt tell you mate, round that 'fuckit' tail of a 5 year habit had some in propelyene glycol jacking that and anything else i could get my hands on, mandy gear ket etc into my arms, thats the last thing i remember before i woke up in hospital 3 days later with renal n liver problems :\ face was swelled 3x its normal size, was okay for aday or 2 psychologically probs due to val half life cause i was taking them aswel, diaz was always 80mg min but bounced up and down, plus etiz and other benzos on top, when itd left my system thoughi was a classic complete delusional psychotic nutter ugh, think back and just wanna strangle myself yaknow, i think i just wanted to die at that point doing all that
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Fookin ell,didn't realise you were on such a cocktail. Glad you pulled through.
 
eLW said:
I never understand people that take benzos everyday. I took maxium 1 5mg valium after hangover. I had social anxiety and shit in past, now its minimum, when you get older it passes on its own.
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Same, daily use must be shit, they mess up my memory bad enough over a weekend or whenever, worse than booze
 
Shambles said:
Taper, taper, taper, taper - one for luck.
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Never thought I'd be hooked Shammy! Although thinking back I did used to get a strange physical stimulant effect if I was an hour or two late in taking them.

Good luck scroloose and anyone else wrestling with these fucking things.
 
scrooloose said:
Fookin ell,didn't realise you were on such a cocktail. Glad you pulled through.
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Cheers mate me too haha! Gonna try stay that way this time, aye etilaam pretty common from uk vendors, the more responsible ones will have popped em out the blisters though, im being fucking retarded & infuriating like the posters above say and dabbing it even though i got some more mg scales yesterday (and slight diaz xanax and clonaz aswel), did em for a month or 3 and had a few weeks break last few weeks and i've been fine though luckily, just anxiety relief when on it, deffo not recommended though, rebound anxiety was probably sorted by opiates, rattle off them was better than past w/o opis cept for the tail end though. I wouldnt risk it if i didnt feel like topping myself sober, just feel so wrong even if the benzos are placebo (which i really doubt). Bah anyone been helped by antidepressants well anxiety wise? might ring my local doctors again tmr
 
Shambles said:
I would tend to think the same, Munroe. Think it's a bit of a grey area. Don't think etiz is specifically covered under the MoDA and isn't licensed as medicine either in this country is it? Kinda falls between the cracks as it were. Perhaps.

EDIT: Are UK vendors selling in blister packs? That would surprise me for the reason PTCH mentions. Thought that'd be a bit iffy under UK law. Was thinking more of eurovendors and "popular auction sites" and the like selling blister packs.
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Yep, my vendor only sells blistered etilaam. After my experience with powered phenazepam I don't think I'd accept it any other way..!
 
ColourfulKronos said:
Bah anyone been helped by antidepressants well anxiety wise? might ring my local doctors again tmr
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Tried mirtazapine. It didn't help my anxiety, but it made me gain 3 stone, made me sleep for 12 hours a night and actually made me happier than I was, so it seems to be alright for depression. I don't believe my anxiety has anything to do with low serotonin levels, so wouldn't expect SSRIs to do a fucking thing (do they ever, really?). Try pregabalin. That finally pulled me out of the pit of shit - I gained 5 stone on that, so seriously watch out.
 
I got the blister packs too, they are saving my life at the moment. Haven't felt the need to take more than a couple a day, missed a dose a few times and felt perfectly fine. Not everyone will have problems if they taper and understand the risks, I actually feel calm for the first time in my life and wish these were available on the NHS. After a couple of Diazepam I sounded like a pisshead my voice slurred so much, Etiz leave me clear headed and at peace with my wretched life.
 
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