Harm Reduction OD Social v12 - Zero Tolerance

[tentram]

^i'd love to IV BTH. i've only had #4 here in australia so i'd like to have a comparison and tick it off the bucket list. what makes you not like it? just not liking opioids in general or?

Black tar heroin definitely has a bunch of shit left in it, I am not sure what you would call it, but there's a reason it has the consistency and dark black color it does.

You are right though, that quality cocaine/meth and powder heroin definitely are much easier to use for people who are inclined to use them.

yeah i don't know much about the process of BTH but it is unrefined and contains other alkaloids than just heroin, along with shit like coffee that is added as a cut for eg. a lot of people describe it more a unique hit than the regular #4 you guys get.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Tar potency varies wildly. There's really weak tar that tends to be solid black stickiness mess, and then there's really strong tar that is often referred to as "gunpowder"; mostly grey powder-ish tar that breaks up easily, not sticky at all.

That is the stuff that I overdosed on (non-fatally/non-life threatening).

So Australia only gets #4 from southeast Asia?

 

[tentram]

yeah, it's all #4 here and usually coming in from one of the asian countries that cook it. the golden triangle area, vietnam, etc most likely is where the bulk would be from.

i thought the grey gunpowder gear was #4, but there is powder-like tar that gets around that i've seen described.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

i thought the grey gunpowder gear was #4, but there is powder-like tar that gets around that i've seen described.

It took longer to dissolve than regular powder would. I didn't think of it as powder because of the consistency. Every time I got powder heroin on the east coast, it would be in rocks, white, beige, light grey, but IMO not dark grey.

I could be wrong obviously but the "gunpowder" stuff we got was through a dealer who normally sold tar, so this is probably why I believed it to be tar.

Maybe some other native Cali heroin users can chime in.

 

[smokemctoke420]

IV DMT is a win. Just saying.
IV black tar is not something I'd describe as such.

lol ive never done either (at least IV) but i agree. iv heroin is more reckless and on most cases probaly more addicting then IV DMT. if used on occasion i see no problem with IV dmt. im not a needle supporter by any means but if i had to pick one to be more addicting i would say the bth is way more addicting because heroin in it self is addicting, much less IV heroin.

finally got home to delaware. i got to stop at a friends last minute and picked up a little bit of reggie and he got me stoned off my ass which is nice since i havent blazed anything but rez in the last 8 days.

tommorrow ill be getting a gram of some dank. ill give him the normal loot i would give him for a gram but he always hooks me up. its nice to see karma finally come back. when i was getting fat sacks for myself i would hook people up not thinking twice and now that im on unemployment and am paying off a couple debts and can barely afford weed people are coming around.

drank on some moonshine which is all hitting me at once plus that weed and im pretty tore up. im gonna resist throwing in this last roxi i got. ill just wake and bake and take it in the morning. id be pissed at myself if i took it tonight (even tho it would feel realllly good) because i love a nice wake and bake and some stimulation via oxy in the morning

 

[Jktm]

I have a question if someone doesn't mind answering it, and I understand there is controversy to this answer...but in terms of PAIN RELIEF...what is the ceiling dose for buprenorphine...once again, that's for pain relief...I just don't feel like I should be on 16mg, and am thinking of tapering myself down to it...also, can this ceiling dose be taken multiple times per day for pain relief? I'm supposed to dose 8mg when I wake up (between 4am and 6am), 4mg at 2pm, and 4mg at 8pm.

This is what this doctor was prescribing EVERYONE...even the person that hadn't been on any opioids ever except once back in like '04 and was taking 2 tylenol 3's for wisdom teeth pain, so he seems like a quack to me...

 

[opiodmaniac]

WOW tonight has been a crazy ass night... I started by pickin up 2 roxy30mg and snorted one of em and snorted 3/4 of the other and smoked the last quarter. well since my dealer is also my friend he Hooked me up with another roxy30 and a half gram of coke (it was honestly pretty mediocre. nothing super fire but def get you'd high.) so I ended up coming over to a friends house to hang and spend the night and somehow I traded some random kid 1mg of XANAX for a gram of
kush... so I gotta sweet deal. then I snorted about half of the come and realized a single clean. so I put about .1 of the coke and drew it up and shot it. (decent rush but nothing to right home about)... then I got the even awesome idea to do a speed ball!!! so I broke down roxy 30 and put the remaing ~.15 I. the spoon added about 70 units water total and woooooow what a fucking great rush!. this was all pretty random too dost really mean to run Into any drugs tonight so kinda ironic.
on top of all that I hadn't ivd (or done any opiates) in about 2 and half weeks so I was pretty damn rocked off f that shot... still took me like 30 minutes to find a good vein tho.

anyway good morning od (ifficially I never went to sleep) what's everybody up to?

 

[smokemctoke420]

I have a question if someone doesn't mind answering it, and I understand there is controversy to this answer...but in terms of PAIN RELIEF...what is the ceiling dose for buprenorphine...once again, that's for pain relief...I just don't feel like I should be on 16mg, and am thinking of tapering myself down to it...also, can this ceiling dose be taken multiple times per day for pain relief? I'm supposed to dose 8mg when I wake up (between 4am and 6am), 4mg at 2pm, and 4mg at 8pm.

This is what this doctor was prescribing EVERYONE...even the person that hadn't been on any opioids ever except once back in like '04 and was taking 2 tylenol 3's for wisdom teeth pain, so he seems like a quack to me...

they always say less is more with suboxone, idk if that counts for pain relief but i would assume it does. if i was in your shoes id do maybe 2mg 2X a day but im no doctor so im not exactly sure. thats just my opinion tho
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woke up hungover as a motherfucker, im so glad i saved this roxi. smoked a bowl and took a hot ass shower then plugged a roxi. my head still hurts but at least i can tolerate it now. fuck moonshine

 

[Tryptamino]

lol ive never done either (at least IV) but i agree. iv heroin is more reckless and on most cases probaly more addicting then IV DMT. if used on occasion i see no problem with IV dmt. im not a needle supporter by any means but if i had to pick one to be more addicting i would say the bth is way more addicting because heroin in it self is addicting, much less IV heroin.

LOL IV DMT is not something I'd describe as addictive at all, but some people may find it addictive I guess. IME smoking pot is more addictive than IV DMT.

Anyway i'm excited for today: I'm gonna be receiving some d-amp, oxycodone, temazepam, and possibly ketamine. Gonna be a good day. Also gonna hang out with ErgicMergic later tonight.

^i'd love to IV BTH. i've only had #4 here in australia so i'd like to have a comparison and tick it off the bucket list. what makes you not like it? just not liking opioids in general or?

Not liking opioids? LMAO I love opioids to an unhealthy extent, but black tar is... well, it's very, VERY dirty, typically, even though I've IV'd tar countless times. I used to get this "tar" that was powder-y and grey (most likely the same variety as Captain.Heroin is referring to, as I did purchase all my heroin around his area) that was actually snortable and was not that dirty and actually the best heroin I ever got in LA (The best heroin I've had was when I went to NY for a month, and would drive to jersey and pick up the bombest powder dope).

 

[smokemctoke420]

yeah from what ive heard DMT isnt addicting nor really used extremly often (in the people ive talked to through forums or IRL) but i wasnt ruling out any possibilities b/c there is people that get hooked on all types of things. ive never done DMT and dont really no much about it. i was just sort of saying that IVing it shouldnt be that bad

my damn hangover finally went away. im feeling pretty good on this oxy and marijuana. yummmy

 

[laCster]

Holy shit I have never been so nauseous in my life. On Tuesday I suddenly got very nauseous and vomitted 4 times that night, Wednesday felt a little better but still nauseous, same for Thursday, but Friday I threw up again 5 times that night and j feltike I was dieing. Holy shit I have never thrown up so much in my life, seriously. Yesterday was just as bad, threw up 2 times even after taking diphenhydramine, pepto bismal, ginger, and zofran. Didn't even get out of bed the whole day except to swallow some pills. I didn't eat a morsel of food for over 24hrs. Surprisingly, the thing that helped the most was temazepam. Weird huh/ I would think temaz would help me sleep, but literally my nausea almost completely stopped. Ended up falling asleep at 10pm and woke up at 6am. Emptied half a 30temaz capsule and swallowing around 15mg and went back to bed. Woke up today and felt better, finally was able to eat some chicken soup and Ritz crackers. Took some lyrica and bupre and now I feel soooooo much better.

I didn't think I had a flu but after not getting better, I don't think I had food poisoning? Or maybe i had food poisoning and the flu? I don't fucking know...honestly I think I have a parasite living inside of me because ever since I came back from wilderness rehab where I drank river water which was supposedly cleaned with a pump, I have been sick 5 times in the past year. First, a month after I came back from the wilderness rehab, I was sick for 3 weeks straight. Drs said I had mono, then went to emergency room after fainting AMD hitting my head and they said I didn't have mono. But I had hepatitis they cpuldnt figure out what it was and just told me to drink fluids AMD rest. Ok so I got better and then in 2 months, I came sick againw ith similar symptoms except this time I vomited a lot and the duration was only a week long. Then a mpnth later I was sick again for 5 days with nausea vomitt and fatigue. Got better and 2 months pass, and I get extreme nausea and vomitting again!.what the fuck, now this fucking shit

I sware to god the internet is more fucking helpful than all the doctors I have seen. All they do is treat the symptoms and not the cause what the fuck!

Lol that's my story. Do you guys think I have a parasite? My symptoms include extreme nausea/vomitting, abdominal cramps and bloating, constipation, tenderness around belly button, fatig

Thank god for temazepam! Also, do you guys think its safe to take amphetamine tomorrow since I'm feeling better today?

 

[Tryptamino]

^damn, idk what you have but i hope you feel better.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Holy shit I have never been so nauseous in my life. On Tuesday I suddenly got very nauseous and vomitted 4 times that night, Wednesday felt a little better but still nauseous, same for Thursday, but Friday I threw up again 5 times that night and j feltike I was dieing. Holy shit I have never thrown up so much in my life, seriously. Yesterday was just as bad, threw up 2 times even after taking diphenhydramine, pepto bismal, ginger, and zofran. Didn't even get out of bed the whole day except to swallow some pills. I didn't eat a morsel of food for over 24hrs. Surprisingly, the thing that helped the most was temazepam. Weird huh/ I would think temaz would help me sleep, but literally my nausea almost completely stopped. Ended up falling asleep at 10pm and woke up at 6am. Emptied half a 30temaz capsule and swallowing around 15mg and went back to bed. Woke up today and felt better, finally was able to eat some chicken soup and Ritz crackers. Took some lyrica and bupre and now I feel soooooo much better.

I didn't think I had a flu but after not getting better, I don't think I had food poisoning? Or maybe i had food poisoning and the flu? I don't fucking know...honestly I think I have a parasite living inside of me because ever since I came back from wilderness rehab where I drank river water which was supposedly cleaned with a pump, I have been sick 5 times in the past year. First, a month after I came back from the wilderness rehab, I was sick for 3 weeks straight. Drs said I had mono, then went to emergency room after fainting AMD hitting my head and they said I didn't have mono. But I had hepatitis they cpuldnt figure out what it was and just told me to drink fluids AMD rest. Ok so I got better and then in 2 months, I came sick againw ith similar symptoms except this time I vomited a lot and the duration was only a week long. Then a mpnth later I was sick again for 5 days with nausea vomitt and fatigue. Got better and 2 months pass, and I get extreme nausea and vomitting again!.what the fuck, now this fucking shit

I sware to god the internet is more fucking helpful than all the doctors I have seen. All they do is treat the symptoms and not the cause what the fuck!

Lol that's my story. Do you guys think I have a parasite? My symptoms include extreme nausea/vomitting, abdominal cramps and bloating, constipation, tenderness around belly button, fatig

Thank god for temazepam! Also, do you guys think its safe to take amphetamine tomorrow since I'm feeling better today?

Sounds horrendous, man. Hah. Shit.

Definitely wouldn't be qualified to say what you have or not... but you should definitely look into it.. Maybe find some specialist or something because that sounds fucked up.

 

[tentram]

i'd hold off on the amphetamines (well mostly everything except your scripts) until you figure what's going on laccy. that sounds terrible, man. especially not being diagnosed. hopefully it was just some bug or virus like i experienced at the end of last week and funnily enough the only thing that helped me was diazepam. i was hardly able to walk at one stage my back was aching that much and knees chattering.

i'd be looking to see a specialist of some kind like scag said.

Not liking opioids? LMAO I love opioids to an unhealthy extent, but black tar is... well, it's very, VERY dirty, typically, even though I've IV'd tar countless times

yeah, i'm well aware it's pretty dirty the majority of the time but some clean BTH would be a treat to me. mexicans should go the extra few yards and refine it properly.

 

[HeadphonesandLSD]

Hey guys, just wanted to pop in and say hey.

Been staying with a friend the last few days, we were both trying out MXE for the first time. I'll have to write a trip report up but compressed opinion is: wow this stuff is awesome and totally removed all cravings for opiates, benzos, and nicotine.

I will have to not make a habit of it, don't wanna lose the magic.

My friend fell in love with the stuff too, but worried me with his constantly bugging me to re-dose. I ended up having to cut him off 12 hours into our trip (we did 10-20mg bumps over the course of a night into the next morning).

I have about 200mg+ left, plan to try plugging 40mg of it next weekend and maybe going a little further and finding the m-hole. I couldn't really do much exploring at my friends place with it. He was constantly wanting to move around where I was wanting to chill out with my eyes closed and lose myself in the music. I ended up just giving up on that idea and watching movies and playing video games instead.

Anyway MXE is my new favorite I think...and I am really enjoying having no cravings for opiates for the first time in years. Hope these after effects continue for a good while.

 

[Tryptamino]

I hate this shit, none of the three dealers I was supposed to meet today are picking up! Craving some opioids and speed.

 

[laCster]

Tentram and scag, thank you for the support ! I really do feel better but I am really craving some amphetamines. Haven't had some in almost a week and I'm really tempted to take some tomorrow. Btw by amps I mean lisdexamp aka vyvanse which might sound a little better but idk. I am going make an appmt with a gastoenterologist specialist tomorrow and insist on testing for parasites.
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I was able to eat foods today so fuck it I want to take amps tomorrow . I was about to take vyvanse yesterday after throwing up, but I stuck my finer down my throat to puke up the vyvanse pills because there was no way I was going to speed that day.

How has your week been scag and tent? I hope you are feeling better tent being sick sucks, trust me I know lolol
I will be on aim tomorrow, if you got nothing to do come get on

 

[smokemctoke420]

Good evening OD.

all this oxy ive taken through the day, including my redose from like an hour ago plus the little bit of valium ive taken has me damn near noddin, i feel it coming on. gonna sip on some more of this moonshine and smoke some more weed and not my fucking dick off

i feel good af right now and its only gonna get better. bout to get my drank on and my smoke on. i forgot i got some kief to so i guess ill throw that in on top of it

edit: hoy shit. all that moonshine just hit me and i was just nodding so hard that i almost burnt a hole on my sweatpantsd

 

[shreddedlettuce]

all this oxy ive taken through the day, including my redose from like an hour ago plus the little bit of valium ive taken has me damn near noddin, i feel it coming on. gonna sip on some more of this moonshine and smoke some more weed and not my fucking dick off

Lol, had to use colors and bold font cause it reminds me of Justified.

But tying knots with your dick isn't a good idea, it might be painful.

i feel good af right now and its only gonna get better

Nah, the dick tying is going to be painful.

edit: hoy shit. all that moonshine just hit me and i was just nodding so hard that i almost burnt a hole on my sweatpantsd

TOLD YOU!

 

[smokemctoke420]

I have to admit that is hilarious, bravo. Bravo

I obviously meant nod tho. Whoops haha

I was blasted there for a minute, I walked around a little bit cuz I only nod when I'm lounging. If I move around I'm usually good.

It's bedtime now.