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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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for some reason, i found that the film strips gave me frequent headaches. luckily my doc put me back on the pills. it is gonna be a bitch havin to cut the pills into such small peices tho.
 
man i thought it was WAY easier to cut down on the pills than the strips. i could break up chunks so small with a razor. i have trouble with the strips and i think sublingual BA is innacurate because there are too many factors that could easily increase or decrease BA via that ROA. too much saliva, or sometimes it slips away and you dont know if you got your dose or not, etc...
 
Can someone explain to me the actual cost that ye guys pay for the tablets Vs the film?

Also, how does that match with generic bupe on price?

I'm irish so its a bit confusing seeing insurance co-pay, coupons etc when more than likely we'd get em for free.
 
I believe the pills and films are exactly the same price, around 7$ per 8mg without insurance. they were offering some $40 or more off coupons in the beginning, I'm not sure if they still do. I've always been on the strips and I get mine for free thru the state (thank god). I am still trying to taper but I'm having a hard time. I was using 2-4mg sometimes 6mg a day for about 2yrs and I have been on about 1mg a day for about 2-3 months now, with the occasional 2-4mg dose a few times a month tops. I am feeling way better on this lower dose but I want to start dosing .5mg twice a day but I always end up taking the other .5mg because I feel like it won't work. I think a lot of the dosing stuff is mental and I need to just start doing the .5mg doses twice daily for 10-14 days, then .25mg 2x a day for 10-14 days and then .25mg once a day for 14days then cut that in half for a week or two and jump off at .125mg. I just need to stop being a pussy about it, I've just been sick (like some shitty virus or a mild case of pneumonia) with the cold sweats, muscle pain, headache and feeling hot or cold and I don't think it's withdrawals as I have chest pains and sore throat as well and taking a dose of 2mg helps a lil but not much, so I don't think it's withdrawal. whatever it is it is making it harder to taper because I convince myself its w/d. subs are tricky because there is not as much info on them as i'd like, especially info on low-doses and their half-life and the overall info on the less is more theory. I think it will be easier with split dosing when tapering below 1mg because I do think it affects the half life and I also use sub for pain and find that after 8-12hrs the analgesic effects are all but gone.
 
Well I successfully made the switch to suboxone and did not experience precipitated withdrawals thank god. Thanks a bunch for the help specter. I pretty much did what you said except I went to work as usual. left to go get my script at 8. I took 1/2 a mg to start with then i waited two hours and did another 1/2 a mg. I feel fine now, pretty disappointed in bupe though i have only taken 3mgs total and my withdrawals are completely gone but i was hoping for more of a feeling/buzz idk maybe I'll take more i am prescribed 16mgs a day...
 
Yea it makes perfect sense why it would work too. I was searching for information on precipitated wds and on the naabt.org website i found some information that went right along with what you had suggested. it said that the reason suboxone can cause precip withdrawals is because if too much is given too rapidly it will displace any remaining opiates but if it is slowly given it will gradually "take over" the receptors. It is the rapid displacement of the remaining opiates that causes precipitated withdrawals.
Just stuck another 1mg under my tongue. I remember a couple years ago 1/2 a mg snorted would set me straight for a couple hours lol. Tolerance is wild...
 
yes tolerance is insane. a good reason to stay away from drugs because youre just running in circles and spending all you got (time, money, etc).

by the way anyone with bad RLS, try wearing shoes around. i just realized that ive been in my socks for 2 weeks and now i have shoes on with arch support and my legs feel TWICE as good. just a little tid bit that makes a huge difference, for me.
 
I'm Canadian and started on 12mg end of November. I just got down to 1mg a day and finally the doc is letting me pick up mon, wed, and Friday. And they don't have to watch me take it anymore. Just for all Canadians sick of going to the pharmacy everyday if the doc thinks you're doing well eventually you get take homes.
 
My doctor said after the first visit to go back in two weeks then if i am clean i can go there once every month, the last time i smoked weed was yesterday and my subs appointment is Jan. 21. My question is, do you think the doctor will think of weed as not being clean and either not give me subs or make me go back in two weeks? Or do you think he will not worry too much about it and lemme go every month? My approach will be honest and right when I get there I think I will say hey look I messed up and smoked weed last week, I have made an effort to not smoke since then.
 
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My doctor said after the first visit to go back in two weeks then if i am clean i can go there once every month, the last time i smoked weed was yesterday and my subs appointment is Jan. 21. My question is, do you think the doctor will think of weed as not being clean and either not give me subs or make me go back in two weeks? Or do you think he will not worry too much about it and lemme go every month? My approach will be honest and right when I get there I think I will say hey look I messed up and smoked weed last week, I have made an effort to not smoke since then.
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Not all doctors are the same and thus view things differently.. but, most doctors I've had and know of, basically always let weed slip and don't consider that a relapse. As long as you don't start testing positive for other shit, (opiates obviously being the number one thing not to have in your system) you'll most likely be okay. But, don't quote me on that... you could have a hard ass of a doctor. I doubt it though.
 
^ my sub doc is like that, im not smoking this time around.... but he let it slide last time.... vancouver tho
 
Actually i believe the pills are cheaper than the films because My buddy's insurance will pay for the pills but not the films
 
my doc did not care at all if i had weed in my urine. i was actually 3-4 months without it and i still tested positive. i was shocked. he didn't care at all though.
 
yeah you gotta find the right one (doctor). some of those guys want you doin AA/NA meetings, counseling, urine screens, etc.

i dont understand how one can even pay for all that and manage to keep their life in order (job, bills, rent, FOOD).

i understand in severe cases but if youre just tryin to get off a street habit... i had to sell my electric guitar for suboxone related fees way back when. thats when i knew i had to do something about it (cut down).
 
i are spectre said:
yeah you gotta find the right one (doctor). some of those guys want you doin AA/NA meetings, counseling, urine screens, etc.

i dont understand how one can even pay for all that and manage to keep their life in order (job, bills, rent, FOOD).

i understand in severe cases but if youre just tryin to get off a street habit... i had to sell my electric guitar for suboxone related fees way back when. thats when i knew i had to do something about it (cut down).
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Well hey it's much better than trading/selling the guitar for heroin. People have a tendency to trade goods for 10% of the original purchase price when trading it for dope, which is really sad.
 
I began understanding why you don't want to quit once you're on the programme. I got so depressed recently, I don't even think about tapering down ever. If I'm put indefinitely, then maybe in some distant future when I feel all right without it. But after all these years I wonder if it's going to pay off to taper down. Why cause pain if staying on it isn't so bad? Methadone was too much for me, I don't want any strange withdrawal again.
 
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