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Heroin Why did heroin make me puke after second usage?

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phillycheese

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The first intravenous usage resulted in a mild, mellow opiate feeling (about .3 gr)

The next day, the second usage was unexpectedly intense and horrific. The quality was also also much better and the amount was also bigger (.5 gram I think)


The moment my friend administered the IV, he told me to raise my arm, and I immediately felt an intense rush, that almost felt like waves going through my my body. I started to laugh a little bit but soon felt uncomfortable. I also didn't have any food in my stomach. I then started to puke and laid down for the next 6 hours having a cool relaxed opiate high. Off and on I would puke during that time. But for most of time I would dose off on and off.:o

Why did I puke several times using heroin only on the second day of using?
Is I allergic to it? Or was it because I had an empty stomach?

I know I'm allergic to morphine because it had the same side effects, puking, sweating, cold flashes, ect. and some times I even forgot to breathe. Like I would be nodding out and breath out then for a long time i would forget to breath in.


**Also, when I would nod off, I would have hallucinations/dreams of me doing things in other places. Kind of like a lucid dream, but i could wake up whenever.
 
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I get sick from opiates myself. I don't know why, so I can't answer your question, but then I never really wondered why. I just know that I have a low threshold for opiate induced nausea, and if I didn't stay under a certain amount I would kill my high with my sick.

We don't use SWIM in Bluelight. Your post may have already got dinged for it, I don't know yet because it's taking me a decade to write a reply. I'm faded, and I'm moving slowly right now.

So anyway... don't use SWIM on bluelight, and don't take more opiates than your system can handle. You should be golden.
 
Hey welcome to Bluelight. Please take a minute to review the forum guidelines. Here on Bluelight, we don't allow the use of SWIM, it does not offer you any protection against incrimination and it just causes confusion, especially when you switch between first and third person narratives, hence, violation of forum guidelines. Check it out, it's all available in my signature. You may post again after you've read and understand the BLUA (Bluelight User Agreement, our terms of service) and the OD Guidelines.

Please edit your post to the correct terminology, from SWIM / my friend / my dog / or any other variant, etc -----> Me, Myself, I, etc.
 
Thanks for making the necessary edits! :)

edit: if you are allergic to morphine, that should be your answer. Heroin is a diacetylated form of morphine, so if you're allergic to morphine, DON'T DO HEROIN.

A lot of the symptoms you've described seemed like opioid overdose to me, what with the nausea, nodding, etc.
 
Hey man nausea is a very common side effect when people first start geting into opiates or when they start using large amounts. From your story it sounds like the second shot you received was much bigger than the first. You got very high which is usually going to be accompanied by nausea.
 
puking, hallucinations are two of the fundamental effects of heroin.

if it was your first and second goes ever with heroin, and you did .3g and .5g, the heroin you have is absolutely terrible. 0.05g would be more than enough for a first time user, maybe even too much.
 
phillycheese said:
Why did I puke several times using heroin only on the second day of using?
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Nausea and vomitting are extremely common side effects of opiates. It is more likely to happen when you use too much, which sounds like what happened to you, but it's also affected by things like how often you use, what and when you eat, motion, smoking cigarettes, and how refined your heroin is.

The nausea/vomiting is caused by a poorly understood mechanism involving the fact that heroin raises histamine levels. Try using less heroin next time if you're going to use it again.

And please be careful, if you are injecting heroin you should really learn more about it.

I know I'm allergic to morphine because it had the same side effects, puking, sweating, cold flashes, ect. and some times I even forgot to breathe. Like I would be nodding out and breath out then for a long time i would forget to breath in.


**Also, when I would nod off, I would have hallucinations/dreams of me doing things in other places. Kind of like a lucid dream, but i could wake up whenever.
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Those are all normal side effects. You might be extra sensitive to the side effects but that does not make you "allergic". You might want to reconsider whether it's worth it to use opiates when you get so many side effects from them, or seriously lower your doses. I suspect your doses are too high, which can be very dangerous.
 
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Those shitty side affects are usually just a sign of being new to opiate usage and/or doing too much...

The longer you use for, the more your body gets used to it and therefore, the puking and shit goes away... Of course, if this happens... your body is also a hop skip and a jump away from picking up a psychial dependence.. it's a double edged sword. If you're going to attempt to use dope only occasionally and not get strung out.. you're going to have to be very careful with your dosage or you'll get those negative symptoms.. But, if you go for the "get my body used to it" route by using more consistently, you risk becoming a full blown addict who will withdrawal when you don't have H.

My advice, take option C and say fuck it... quit the shit all together. But, hey... you're going to do what you're going to do.
 
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puking, hallucinations are two of the fundamental effects of heroin.

if it was your first and second goes ever with heroin, and you did .3g and .5g, the heroin you have is absolutely terrible. 0.05g would be more than enough for a first time user, maybe even too much.
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I have never personally hallucinated on heroin, nor has anyone else that I've done it with. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I've never personally experienced it.
 
histamine release, try using 25mg of benedryl or another 1st generation anti-histamine
 
Nausea and vomiting(just after rush) and then feeling the opiate work - "I then started to puke and laid down for the next 6 hours having a cool relaxed opiate high".
This is pretty standard with many opiate users, some even pre-empt it and try get the nausea out of the way so that they can "let go", so to speak.
Hope that makes sense.
 
Opiates affect people differently, Sometimes I get sick when I do too much. I know what you mean when you talk about the dreams of you doing things in other places when you are high as well, Pretty much when you do too much is when you tend to get sick. Like right now, I did a shot and smoked one too many cigarettes, and now I am feeling the effects of nausea. I may throw up because of that. Just try not to do so much and you will be fine. Also the more you do and the quicker you do it, makes your tolerance go up quicker than if you were to just use what you need to get a nice nod and warm fuzzy feeling. Just a tip.
Try not to do it in consecutive days, that's a sure path to an addiction, if you don't have one already. Seriously, it's not a fun or cool thing to be addicted to heroin. Believe me. So please for your own sake, be careful, use clean syringes and don't do it more than every 3-4 days, if you use on consecutive days, only do it for 2 days and then give yourself a 3 day break, that way your body doesn't get used to getting heroin on a schedule. You really don't want to get addicted (if you can help it). Good luck!

Cheers

Opidopecake
 
Rock$Off said:
I have never personally hallucinated on heroin, nor has anyone else that I've done it with. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I've never personally experienced it.
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I have had occasionally visual hallucinations and more commonly auditory hallucinations, not crazy stuff mind you, just like a dream, but with your eyes open and being awake. It only happens when I get extremely fucked up. Just so you know, it does happen, but not in the sense of what you are probably thinking, not like LSD or schizophrenic hallucinations or anything, just like a waking dream. (Like seeing a dream happen while awake is the best way I can put it.
 
Rock$Off said:
I have never personally hallucinated on heroin, nor has anyone else that I've done it with. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I've never personally experienced it.
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I never hallucinated either but I've nodded so hard that I had dreams I thought were really happening. I think that's pretty normal for people just starting out.
 
Dude a half g shot is huge for someone with no tolerance...you need to be more careful. Throwing up is a sign you have had to much.
 
Effuzion said:
I never hallucinated either but I've nodded so hard that I had dreams I thought were really happening. I think that's pretty normal for people just starting out.
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Yeah, this is what I figured the OP was talking about. Like nodding off and having either realistic or lucid dreams. I found heroin to increase lucid dreams and control over them, or cause dreams that seemed real - sometimes and it would take me a while to realize they weren't real and that I'd just nodded off.
 
Rock$Off said:
I have never personally hallucinated on heroin, nor has anyone else that I've done it with. Not to say it doesn't happen, but I've never personally experienced it.
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it's not hallucinations in the classic psychedelic sense. it's nodding hard, thinking you're having a conversation that you're not having, thinking you're in a place that your not in...hasn't happened to me for a while but was great when it did...hanging with a friend saying "sorry no i don't want a cheeseburger" or something and them going "eerrrr what?" "oh sorry i'm just fucked.."

like dreaming, as others have said.
 
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