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Miracle cure for MDMA binge induced brain damage!

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Hey all, ok so during the summer I got giddy / wreckless and did 10 grams of MDMA in 10 weeks often rolling for back to back for days. No excuses really, I was just naive and fell in love with the effects of the drug. Anyway turns out my brain got fried, my mind felt constantly foggy and my short term memory deteriorated to an extent that I could not recall events I had done that day, such as the newspaper articles I had read or the items I had bought from the supermarket. Scary shit, right? Being permafried off E is not for me seeing as I'm not Bez from the Happy Mondays, he's made a rather lucrative career from this shit.

Ok so enough babbling, alongside calling it a day on my E use 3 months ago coupled with daily exercise I've recently started taking neurozan and neurozan plus and the results have most definitely exceeded expectations. My mood has perked up, my fluency in both speech and writing has improved alongside a very welcoming return of my previous general aptitude, heck I'd even go as far as saying I feel like that dude from that film limitless or something. Ok, admittedly I’m still a long shot off from making Robert De Niro my stockbroking bitch but you get the idea. Although whenever I close my eyes I still see funky-ass fluorescent closed eyelid flashes / visuals, providing physical evidence that MDMA has probably changed my neurology to an indefinite extent at the very least. Nonetheless I feel much better about my situation now, perhaps I'll even roll again one day albeit much more sensibly.

Finally, I'm a firm believer of the brain's neuroplasticity and ability to recover. Second time I did LSD i dropped 3 tabs at once, giving me mild psychedelic "flashbacks" that did eventually fade after 6 months....(although flashbacks is the wrong term to describe such events, I wasn't in some dream like state fantasising about my previous trip, more like if I was sleep deprived it felt like I had dropped 1/10th of a tab of acid or something, not that I minded when it happened lol).
 
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thanks man that was really helpful, i've been having the same amount and same side affects and was really starting to worry about the long term health of my brain.
just purchased neurozan / plus
ill let you know how it goes for me!
cheers
 
Glad its helped, yeah best thing is time, abstinence from MDMA and a positive attitude about recovering. Memory is returning but my motivation in life is still massively lacking, assuming I had any in the first place that is...!
 
I've talked to a lot of people and done a lot of research on supplements, most of the time when people decide to eat right and exercise they also add in supplements to help the process, and sometimes they do help. But often too much credit is attributed to the supplements. The human body is extremely resilient. Eat right and exercise and your body and brain will be fine ;)
 
I have noticed Neurozan has rescued a few people out of the horror trip experience from over doing it over the summer.

The bonus of neurozan is it contains many supps in one convenient pill. Highly recommended.

Good luck with your recovery nomoremolly glad to hear Neurozan is helping.

Only negative it aint cheap!!
 
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9 months for WHP!! Sankeys is good though events until April have just been released.. Where else is good in manc ?
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Joshua Brooks, very small venue but always a good vibe. Sound Control, also a tad small compared to the other big clubs but a good vibe.
 
futura2012 said:
I have noticed Neurozan has rescued a few people out of the horror trip experience from over doing it over the summer.

The bonus of neurozan is it contains many supps in one convenient pill. Highly recommended.

Good luck with your recovery nomoremolly glad to hear Neurozan is helping.

Only negative it aint cheap!!
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I have a box of this stuff but some people appear to think 5-htp, one of the ingredients, actually worsens MDMA induced damage. Do you think there is any weight behind these arguments? what do you base your opinion on Neurozan on? Thanks.
 
I have a box of this stuff but some people appear to think 5-htp, one of the ingredients, actually worsens MDMA induced damage. Do you think there is any weight behind these arguments? what do you base your opinion on Neurozan on? Thanks.
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The argument about 5HTP is it artificially loads the brain with too much serotonin and can cause adverse reactions. Particularly when mixed with other drugs and medication.

There is definitely some weight behind these arguments as in some countries such as Germany 5HTP is prescription only for these safety concerns.

Personally I have found 5HTP to be beneficial to my own condition but this is only my personal opinion. You could try using L-Tryptophan as an alternative as this is one reaction away from 5HTP and some argue for this reason allows the brain to more easily regulate the amount of available serotonin.

My opinion of Neurozan is based on other people on here who have tried it during nasty come downs and had great success with it.

Also I have had two long term nasty comedowns my first was assisted with Neurozan and I did recover. Unfortunately my second is still ongoing so no recovery story as of yet.

Hope this info helps you out :)
 
futura2012 said:
The argument about 5HTP is it artificially loads the brain with too much serotonin and can cause adverse reactions. Particularly when mixed with other drugs and medication.

There is definitely some weight behind these arguments as in some countries such as Germany 5HTP is prescription only for these safety concerns.

Personally I have found 5HTP to be beneficial to my own condition but this is only my personal opinion. You could try using L-Tryptophan as an alternative as this is one reaction away from 5HTP and some argue for this reason allows the brain to more easily regulate the amount of available serotonin.

My opinion of Neurozan is based on other people on here who have tried it during nasty come downs and had great success with it.

Also I have had two long term nasty comedowns my first was assisted with Neurozan and I did recover. Unfortunately my second is still ongoing so no recovery story as of yet.

Hope this info helps you out :)
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Thanks for the response! Think i'll give the neurozan a go if rate of recovery slows down over the next couple of months.

Good luck with your recovery!
 
You took pills and got brain damage, so you're taking more pills to fix it?



Eat healthy, a rich diet high in L-Tryptophan. Exercise almost daily, not just working out for an hour but doing longer activities and get out under the sky (doesn't matter if the sun is out, its rays can penetrate the clouds). After all that get a long nights sleep and you'll do more for your body than any pill EVER will. Well.. except maybe an LSD pill ;)
 
neurozan is really a great supplement , i took it when i first started the comedown and it really waved me back to normal , only problem was when i stopped taking it, it slowly went worse again , its a good try todo tho
 
L-Tryptophan and a mix of amino acids is the best thing imo. Screw 5htp, i felt weird on that shit when i was recovering from MDMA.
 
Perhaps the greatest tool for repairing ecstasy induced brain damage is just time itself.....

Val Curran, Professor of Psychopharmacology at University College London, who has been researching the effects of ecstasy on the brain for the last decade was interviewed to find out the truth about the damage ecstasy can do to the brain.

How does ecstasy use affect the brain and memory in the short and long term? "In the short term, ecstasy promotes a massive release of serotonin in the brain alongside a release of other brain chemicals, like dopamine. In humans, memory is significantly impaired two to three hours after taking the drug but six hours later these impairments are no longer evident."

"In the long term, there is still a lot of debate about effects on the brain and memory. Studies in monkeys have suggested long-lasting reduction in brain serotonin even seven years after a few doses. However, the doses used in these studies were injected and were very high compared with doses humans take.

"Little evidence of any change in memory or behaviour is seen in these monkeys. Humans generally take other drugs as well as ecstasy, including drugs like cannabis and alcohol, which also impair memory. This makes it difficult to know what effects are caused by which drugs."

Is any damage caused reversible?

"Several brain imaging studies suggest the answer to this question is yes. After not using ecstasy for 12 months, there is no difference in serotonin in the brains of people who used to use ecstasy, compared with people who used other recreational drugs such as cannabis, alcohol and coke, but not ecstasy. Newer studies (by Hoshi et al, 2007 and Roiser et al 2007) indicate that there is little, if any, evidence that the memory function in ex-ecstasy users differs from those who used these kinds of drugs but not ecstasy."

So what's the conclusion?As always, we can not know what future research may reveal. It has been suggested that future studies examining the brains of ecstasy users' age may reveal other effects that are not reversible. Recent research (by Hoshi et al) also implies that our genetic make-up influences the extent to which each individual's serotonin is affected by MDMA, and thus how great or small the short-term impairment is to our brain functions and memory."

Source:
http://www.thesite.org/drinkanddrugs/drugsafety/drugsandyourbody/ecstasyandbraindamage

From my own personal experience I would say yes, ecstasy can cause damage, however this effect is hopefully reversible given a suitable amount of time (depending on how crazy you got with it - 1yr? 3yr? 10yr abstinence needed?!)

I believe MDMA is either very safe or very dangerous (with respect to brain damage, dangers/safety surrounding over-heating and hydration is another topic). This depends on both the dose and the frequency of use, hence the divisions in the scientific and subsequent political communities......
 
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