The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread-11th Dose-50 grams and a kidney later..

[dezz]

what about realizations about yourself and the world? i swear this stuff makes me think think think... i really think it can hold its own against lsd/shrooms etc in that regard

 

[Transform]

I absolutely love the contemplative headspace produced by MXE. It particularly seems to promote empathetic thoughts about society and how good it would be if everyone worked together.

I find I get more of these stereotypical "one-ness" thoughts on MXE than I do from traditional psychedelics.

 

[scottishdnb]

i strongly disagree with this assertion.

man, 10mg bumped makes me so content. i don't want to call it a high

10mg was a beautiful dose for me too. Definitely a drug with a nice dose response curve.

Sadly miss methoxetamine more than words can elaborate.

 

[TheAppleCore]

I absolutely love the contemplative headspace produced by MXE. It particularly seems to promote empathetic thoughts about society and how good it would be if everyone worked together.

I find I get more of these stereotypical "one-ness" thoughts on MXE than I do from traditional psychedelics.

Yes. In a sense, at least, MXE is capable of more profoundly altering my perception of myself and reality than classical psychedelics, and quenches the thirst for spiritual and philosophical kindling more than serotonergics, with maybe the exception of DMT and DMT alone.

MOD EDIT: MOVED FLAME-Y TANGENT DISCUSSION HERE: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/662028-Cryptix420-quot-MXE-addicts-justifying-their-abuse-quot

 

[KingBlueTwista]

I'm glad it has worked for you dude. I am just pissed at the grip that the pharmaceutical industry has on the medical industry. There are ways to fix many common mental health problems while instead the symptoms are patched over with drugs. Medicine should be about prevention not the masking of symptoms! Trouble is you can't patent, bottle and sell the benefits of exercise, meditation and nutrition. Haha yeah we've derailed this thread enough!

On topic, well it's been fucking ages since I've done methox. Except at new year my mate had a fat sack, which I of course had to indulge in. It seemed to induce slight chemical burns on the throat though, which I never got from the legal UK batches. I took about 100mg in total with a 600mcg blotter of 25c-nbome. Damn that was a sexy combination, I felt like electric jelly on the dance aka kitchen floor. Visuals were out of this world, especially when I had a freezing cold shower. I got the insanely weird feeling of multiple dejavu, as if I was living and falling through many past lives at once, that had all at some point found themselves in this particular shower on this particular combination of drugs. It was nice, but all in all I don't think I'm gonna bother with it again. Although what was the general consensus about holing on this, was it achieved by any in the end? Having tried real Ket now I really appreciate the deep universal tunnelling that can be achieved via this godly kompound.

 

[25I_am_so_wonderfu]

Whatever happened to eye_wide_open? I'm guessing he didn't survive the health repercussions of his experiments and abuse of MXE and bath salts. Dude was posting obsessively, even more so when he came down with his acute kidney/bladder/liver/psycholgoical disorders. I surely think we would've heard from him by now

 

[Frogster]

>> I've tossed like 20g of my remaining 30g down the toilet leaving me with my last 10g

Thats what friends are for man, lay it on a friend, don't flush it. Its such a shame to see good drugs wasted.

ty for replying but i gotta comment..


I'm the one that keeps/stashes drugs for friends when they reach the point of "self admitted loss of control" with any stuff. Cos im "the Guy with super Drug-Knowledge (Chemistry, Pharmacology, health issues), RC-Scene Insider, Responsible Candyman who uses mg Scales and Test-Reagents inside a Tent on a Festival and the only one with the needed authority to tell a buddy "it's been enough for totay, climb down from that tree, a beggie full of shiny buds is waiting for you in my tent...."

Seriously, i could easily do without that "good Reputation". But i could never bear pulling even my most hated Person into this mud i went through!
Im neither a businessman, im a researcher. I never took money for candy...
Ok, there are still the Bigigboys here from BL or DF. I Don't know you guys personally, and don't expect me to send a letter to... ok NL would be acceptable.

So, there's now one Masterpiece less in my Gallery of contemporary Psychoactives :-(

 

[Morkin]

I have the opportunity to try some MXE. Had a taste of ketamine & DXM before, so looking forward to this one.

Can anyone recommend an oral dosage? It's my preferred ROA.

This chem is on 11 freaking threads, so excuse me if I haven't looked through every page for this info. Cheers

 

[Jesusgreen]

^ Please let's keep on topic and not disappear off into further discussion of whether or not medication is good or bad. You're welcome to discuss whether or not people should self-medicate with MXE (which is a HUGE no in my opinion, particularly now that we've proven this has some SERT affinity, this is likely going to worsen any depression/anxiety/related problems in the long run with regular use)

Morkin, a tip, you can use the "Search Thread" function near the top of the thread

I'll answer anyway though. What kind of intensity are you looking for?

~15-20mg orally is a nice light dose that gives a pleasant mood boost, some stimulation, and maybe the tiniest hints of dissociation, but nothing much. One lovely thing about this dose range is you'll usually appear sober.

~30-35mg orally starts to get quite dissociating but is still strongly grounded in reality and quite lucid. It might become apparent to people that you're high at this range.

Once you get to 45-50mg+ you're already quite close to "hole" territory and the experiences can be very strongly dissociating at this stage, I'd aim to be somewhere safe where you don't have to interact with anyone you don't want to know is high immediately if you're taking a dose in this range.

If you already have significant tolerance from past dissociative experience you might want to push the doses higher, but I'd recommend starting off low and working your way up anyway - this is quite different from Ketamine and DXM, though they have similarities, and you might not prefer the same level you liked with those substances with this. For example, Ketamine I take to hole and pretty much nothing else, but MXE I'll mostly take at medium doses so I can become more absorbed by a game or films/tv, since the stimulation for me feels a little too dirty and weird at hole doses to make this range preferable.

 

[Morkin]

Thank you very much for that.

 

[dezz]

Jesusgreen do you have a source for SERT affinity? That one is new to me..

 

[Jesusgreen]

Jesusgreen do you have a source for SERT affinity? That one is new to me..

 

[dezz]

That sucks... last thing I need is another SERT releaser... bummer tbh

 

[TheAppleCore]

I disliked cryptix' comment because it was entirely bereft of any context, information, or logical balance.

True, it would've been good to see some specific references to posts, and some argument to back up his claim.

[EDIT] You know what, I just re-read my post and realised that nowhere did I make any claims on responsible use regarding frequency of use, nor did I make any comments about it being a viable drug to use in the long-term (regarding your comments about long-term effects being unknown). So you're putting words in my mouth (and to poor effect)

Here's what I was referring to: "As long as you take it in responsible doses nothing bad will happen to you". I assumed that by "nothing bad", you included long-term negative effects.

I'm sure I'm flogging a very dead horse here and you were just trying to be clever, so to continue to pursue this tangent would be a waste of time.

you've got a weirdly passive-aggressive trip going on

Believe it or not, I have no ulterior motive, and my only purpose is to increase self-awareness of MXE users, or potential users. This is of course an extreme example, but consider solvents, like butane or gasoline. Their high has been demonstrated to be inseparable from physical harm to the body. Although MXE's close relationship to ketamine, which is deemed safe enough to have pediatric applications, gives us at least a basis for guessing that MXE is also fairly safe, because of the lack of formal research on MXE, we must acknowledge that there is at least a chance that MXE functions in a similarly detrimental way.

So, by my definition of "bad", it's simply unrealistic to say that "nothing bad" will happen as a result of responsible MXE use, because it's quite possible that responsible use of MXE simply doesn't exist, in the way that responsible psychotropic use of hydrocarbon solvents simply doesn't exist.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Interesting, the whole SERT affinity issue. That would explain why MXE seems to be significantly more problematic than ketamine when combined with drugs like 6-APB and MDMA.

So, SERT affinity = serotonin release? Why is that? Because the SERT's normal function is serotonin reuptake, and so serotonin levels in the brain are left unchecked?

 

[how the gods chill]

Coming back from cloud nine, my first experience with mxe , did 50mgs up the nose 3 hours ago and all I can say is.... what the fuck? My girl did it with me too, she's asleep though now, lucky her cuz I'm tryna figure out what the hell is goin on around here hahaha. Some funky shit for real!

 

[ABCDFG I Ate The E]

me n my gf have been doing mxe daily for the past 4 months.. i ordered 50g of it just to do.. it has really fucked up my memory short n long term memory.. the 50g is about gone now n im glad but my vendor wont ship to the us anymore anyway.. just letting u guys know .. doing mxe daily will really fuck up ur memory . that is deff one of the side effects from it.

 

[Strange purple]

Something funny about mxe that happens with me is in 3 or 4 occasions i threw my bag away just because of the insight i got from mxe, telling me i shouldn't do it so much or illl get addicted. Ofcourse the next day when im sober im like WTF don't i just give it to a friend to keep it for me, but no, the mxe headspace got me doing it again...

 

[Transform]

ABCDFG I Ate The E: How long did you do the 50g over? That would be a lifetime supply for me so I'm can't say I'm entirely surprised that there have been side-effects.

Given the structure of MXE I would expect it to be an SRI rather than an SRA.

 

[TheAppleCore]

Something funny about mxe that happens with me is in 3 or 4 occasions i threw my bag away just because of the insight i got from mxe, telling me i shouldn't do it so much or illl get addicted. Ofcourse the next day when im sober im like WTF don't i just give it to a friend to keep it for me, but no, the mxe headspace got me doing it again...

Don't make any "decisions" on MXE, my experience tells. Your mind is blunted and foolish on MXE.