Stimulants Meth a neutral signs of dosing to high - HR help needed to fight regular over stim

[blight12]

Hey all,

Was not sure if this should be in BDD or here so please fix if necessary.

This is a meth query and its also me so i know that combo generally goes unanswered understandably but this is a HR query and im sober, i swearz.
I usually don't post potentially silly meth queries but this is a regular health risk for me so my thanks in advance...

So i went without it for Dec due to cash flow and was happy with the fact that I had minimal cravings, in fact I had more cravings for opiates after only my two small low dose experiences, so im convinced that stuff is the devil lol. Anyways, meth is getting shitty, more and more negatives but I would like to try once more to confirm if its my fault due to dosing issues and then at least I know.

I know the experience is very subjective and different for everybody, but I would like some advice nonetheless. If i dont get responses then so be it.

Basically I struggle, while high to determine how high I am and how to manage my dosages. I also do other silly things that just seem to make sense at the time, like if i feel over stimmed, and then get better, I will take more, as if feeling better means redose. Its retarded.

So what happens to me is that i cannot determine how high i am and whether a negative symptom is from coming down or from to much. And i cannot rely on dosages as they are frustratingly totally random (even from the same bag) in effects and "indicators" of effect or what "level" i am at.

So i tend to get in trouble, take to much and do stupid things, like posting a whole load of rubbish here.
What will happen is that I will only receive indicators of dosing to high, once I have dosed far to high, and it hits all at once, as in getting super paranoid, all the positive euphoria disappears (like i sobered up), wierd chest sensations and extreme discomfort, bad vasoconstriction etc, and go a bit nuts with the sensory hallucinations.
Its pretty stupid and possibly dangerous, almost every time.

I also know i take way to much generally since a friend and I did only half a while back and that 4th worked well for the same time i do 1g in. The thing is i try and finish it before the week starts, but thats gonna be my future issue once this one is resolved. I will probably need to hunt for a lower quality supply lol.

So to clarify, I only receive indicators all of a sudden, all at once, when its far to late and I have taken to much and need to wait out the 12 hour wierdness and frustration and pain.

The rest of the time its extremely smooth, calm, relaxing for me. I dont get physically stimulated and can sit still happily, but this also means there are no physical symptoms of dosage that come on gradually.

All I have to go on is my state of mind and mood and thats totally unreliable and I often confuse any negative symptoms like anxiety with coming down. Once I even dosed more meth in the desperate hopes of fixing over stimulation, and it even worked (you see why I get confused).

And lastly overstimulation for me manifests as this wierd calm/clarity state where I dont feel high anymore and start to notice negative things and get anxiety. So its similar to the comedown in some ways as well. So its very difficult to not screw this up. So essentially my brain is no help, but a list i can refer to would really help!

Is it possible to get a list of indicators, symptoms etc. Whats important is that they might be neutral indicators or symptoms since as I said most of the negative will slam me at once when its to late. Please feel free to list the negatives as well so I can at least tell if they are comedown or over stim.

So your personal indicators or what you use to tell you state and starting to dose to high, would really help. I have checked the stock indicators and the documentation, online research drug info etc already but they dont help me much for this. Its the personal subjective stuff i need and things leart over time and experience as im sure the indicators are similar.

Lastly I know my purchase dose is way to high, and the guy wont sell less. Assuming 1g is usually for 1 person, I dont know what superhumans he is selling to. It was cost effective, but now its far to much of a good/bad thing. I would even be happy to pay the same for like 1/3 and save myself problems later, but anyways (and stopping while high and with product is well... impossible, but I will work on that).

Oh, i would be interested to know if its commonly sold in lesser amounts elsewhere? I can then tell him to get with the times... I even brush away crumbs and leftovers all the time to help, no lies, the only carpet searches would be for "please make this stop, im over it already" crumbs. Its madness.

Lastly x 2, i know fixing this and dosing less this will mean more product and possibly more days, which will be the next big problem to tackle, *sigh*.

So save Bluelight from my pointless posts and help. Thanks!

 

[majicBLUE]

Damn, he only sells g's? That sucks man. Sometimes I have this problem, but not so much lately, like 2 weeks ago I got dope and i'd be just couch locked and flipping through channels constantly. I can tell i'm tweaked when I go to dose and I start fucking with the little crystals in the bag, and then I look in the mirror and my pupils are 10x more dilated then before I opened my bag (before I smoke). Also my tongue starts to rub against my teeth, just an old habit from doing coke I suppose.

 

[lcrlover]

Meth feels great, less so to the folks on the receiving end I suppose. I get much the same way after dosing
on steroids from the Dr in cases where antibiotics were not effective i have been dosed methyl prednisolone & I can get quite the rage on... I never felt the good part that I did with meth tho...
I would never touch meth again, the reality it sells is too fake for me.

 

[Toz]

The trick with amphetamines is to take a rather large dose all at once and then only redose once and not more. After a while, redosing will only result in overstimulation while yielding no positive effects. Sometimes I forget to eat/drink enough while on amphetmine/meth and that will make me feel like I need to redose, while in reality all I need really is to eat and drink to regain some of the euphoria/high. Also it is different with different types of speed, some I can be awake for on 5 days and still feel great, while others will just result in overstimulation after the 2nd redose...

If I find myself dosing so much that I get overstimulated, 2mg of clonazepam usually does the trick.

 

[blight12]

Damn, he only sells g's? That sucks man. Sometimes I have this problem, but not so much lately, like 2 weeks ago I got dope and i'd be just couch locked and flipping through channels constantly. I can tell i'm tweaked when I go to dose and I start fucking with the little crystals in the bag, and then I look in the mirror and my pupils are 10x more dilated then before I opened my bag (before I smoke). Also my tongue starts to rub against my teeth, just an old habit from doing coke I suppose.

Yeah, he says (and its true) that its so cheap here, no point in selling in any less quantities. And i guess thats another problem)

Yeah. I notice i struggle and rage trying to get between the plastic to open the little ziplock baggie which insists on defying me.

And yeah the jaw, eyes, bright colours and those annoying tough sores from rubbing are usually on day 3, so i thought duration, but thats also when i start taking to much, so perhaps i can use that as dose indicators a well thanks.

The biggest indicator as well, but also one when im fooked already, is sitting trapped in a loop writing crazy shit for hours and i cant get out of it or stop it, if i leave the voices make me think about it again and go add things. It demands to be freed unto the world. Lucky much of it never made it on here due to obsessive rewritting until i regained sanity and then deleted it quckly. The world is not ready for some things.

 

[blight12]

The trick with amphetamines is to take a rather large dose all at once and then only redose once and not more. After a while, redosing will only result in overstimulation while yielding no positive effects. Sometimes I forget to eat/drink enough while on amphetmine/meth and that will make me feel like I need to redose, while in reality all I need really is to eat and drink to regain some of the euphoria/high.

If I find myself dosing so much that I get overstimulated, 2mg of clonazepam usually does the trick.

Yeah its just i got this baggie full of joy and when im high it needs to be used lol. Redosing I can get pleasantly high for 3 days, if i dose properly to not over stim.
But the end of day 3 gets shit and not fun and i want sanity and sober to return. Tried day 4 once and it was hell. I dont know how people can do it. Even dosing retardedly its not working on the good bits by then.
I eventually just end up eating it our of the bag hoping it will stop looking so damn full and dangerous to my timelines

 

[blight12]

Well i may as well query another concern I have when over amping and some other times.

I know people stress over their heart and shit but I dont really notice a fast beat or pain or palpitations or anything like that.

I get this wierd sensation like a mild electric current is going through that area and I often get little bursts like a zap that will cover the whole heart area and then sometimes get this little tiny pin prick zaps in small specific places. It feels like this is on the skin on my chest but obviously its the heart. Its hard to describe, i sometimes think it feels like there is cold water in there?

Is this the adrenaline and SNS as this feels similar to that sensation you get when you get startled and get the adrenaline shot into your heart?

Is this shit safe. Im sure if there where issue i would feel pain. This is just the only wierd meth think that stresses me so i ask. I am not really healthy but i guess at least now i know i dont have any serious heart issues, since still being here after lots of meth.

 

[majicBLUE]

Yeah, he says (and its true) that its so cheap here, no point in selling in any less quantities. And i guess thats another problem)

Yeah. I notice i struggle and rage trying to get between the plastic to open the little ziplock baggie which insists on defying me.

And yeah the jaw, eyes, bright colours and those annoying tough sores from rubbing are usually on day 3, so i thought duration, but thats also when i start taking to much, so perhaps i can use that as dose indicators a well thanks.

The biggest indicator as well, but also one when im fooked already, is sitting trapped in a loop writing crazy shit for hours and i cant get out of it or stop it, if i leave the voices make me think about it again and go add things. It demands to be freed unto the world. Lucky much of it never made it on here due to obsessive rewritting until i regained sanity and then deleted it quckly. The world is not ready for some things.

Haha, you must be WC? It's cheap as fuck out here, I just moved out here from the South and it's so abundantly available, I found a connect on it before I found weed. Lol, I do that shit ALL the time, especially in class, but it's more song lyrics from The Doors than anything. That's usually day two, but once I start writing I finally get the high i'm looking for, maybe if you focus more on things you get higher (heard this from old amp heads, which is why they clean, work on cars, etc.) but the shit out here right now doesn't make me all UP/Talkative/etc. it makes me more, down and tweaked. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but it's weird as fuck. I'm sitting here after taking about 6-7 hits and I can tell i'm high because my tongue is moving quick as fuck and I have cottonmouth, but no urge to talk about mundane things to the people around me and no urge to call anyone. Weird.

Edit: I usually check my pulse if i'm really fucked up and use my pulse as a guide to redose or to chill out. If it's pumping fast as fuck I just chill, sometimes I get so high that I feel like i'ma pass out when I stand up, like when you smoke alot of weed you know? I get a weird sensation in my chest sometimes too, actually this morning I did, I don't think much about it, it's obviously not a healthy drug but I assume if it's consistent pain then i'll worry, one second or so jolt/pain I write it off as a side-effect from Amp's.

 

[rhun]

OP, to be honest with you... I think you're overcomplicating it. You're letting the drug get in your head and you're overthinking the whole thing.. just take a step back and try not to obsess about it. If you can't control your use it means it's time to take a break. Back when I was into crystal I would buy a g at a time.. and it was extremely high quality. I would either split it with a friend or put away half of it over another time. Also, if you're not able to use meth correctly (i.e. don't know how to dose correctly, can't tell when enough is enough, etc.) you have no business using.

Like someone posted above, it's best to do a decent amount first and resist the urge to redose. After the intial rush, redosing is not going to feel good like that it will only make you more tweaked out. The only thing that kept me healthy and able to hide my use from everyone I knew was I only did it on special occasions for the most part. So I would wait till concerts, parties, or Friday night. I'd smoke a nice big bowl and I'd get that rush and just feeel amaaaazing and superhuman like crystal makes you feel. I would smoke 1-2 tiny bowls after that if I was partying, but that was it. That way I knew how much I did, how high I was, and I knew that when the night was over I would be able to sleep. Sleep deprivation is one of the worst things you can do to yourself. It's proven that after 3 nights without sleep you're legally insane. I'm going to try and find the study to back that up. While you sleep, your body restores itself and regenerates cells. That's the main reason why meth is so destructive. That and it's made out of extremely corrosive chemicals like the shit that's in battery acid and anti-freeze.. Yum right?

But in all seriousness, I cannot stress enough that you need to learn to enjoy the initial amazing rush then not redose so the drug will wear off and you can rest. Then next time when you're rested and healthy and decide to use again, you will experience the same amazing rush. Control your use and make yourself wait, don't binge. You will destroy your body and lose control. And you don't want meth at the wheel, I saw some incredibly fucked up shit during the years I used and was around heavy tweakers.

 

[blight12]

^^ Oh yeah, there is no doubt that first dose, it can even be a big ass one is magic compared to the insanity that follows.
Honestly i just dont respect the stuff as i should and i fear using it during the week so i justify getting rid of it quicker, by filtering it through myself, "for my own future good".

Also, i need to plan to assist that retard that takes over when im high. I always get so close to stopping on day 1 or 2 because its logical and meth likes logic, but then I always try just a little bit more to see if i will feel better or to tide me over till XXXX time when i will pop my Seroquel and sleep. But that little trickter meth always ensures i feel a lot better meaning meth logic demands you continue.

I feel so weak since i even have Seroquel and dont need to fear the comedown but i heard redosing was a common problem, so thats my excuse. I find when high any change to the situation, even moving, getting up and taking a piss is unwanted and deemed an enemy of the status quo. Even seroquel and sleep seems silly. Meth is always about the status quo. Im sure if you could remain high forever you probably would. Fortunately sanity returns when sober.

Also then, if i managed to stop and sleep, i will just take more the next day. Its all about that initial purchase amount. If i could find a way to reduce its effectiveness somehow perhaps I would prevail

Haha, you must be WC? It's cheap as fuck out here, I just moved out here from the South and it's so abundantly available, I found a connect on it before I found weed. Lol, I do that shit ALL the time, especially in class, but it's more song lyrics from The Doors than anything. That's usually day two, but once I start writing I finally get the high i'm looking for, maybe if you focus more on things you get higher (heard this from old amp heads, which is why they clean, work on cars, etc.) but the shit out here right now doesn't make me all UP/Talkative/etc. it makes me more, down and tweaked. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but it's weird as fuck. I'm sitting here after taking about 6-7 hits and I can tell i'm high because my tongue is moving quick as fuck and I have cottonmouth, but no urge to talk about mundane things to the people around me and no urge to call anyone. Weird.

Edit: I usually check my pulse if i'm really fucked up and use my pulse as a guide to redose or to chill out. If it's pumping fast as fuck I just chill, sometimes I get so high that I feel like i'ma pass out when I stand up, like when you smoke alot of weed you know? I get a weird sensation in my chest sometimes too, actually this morning I did, I don't think much about it, it's obviously not a healthy drug but I assume if it's consistent pain then i'll worry, one second or so jolt/pain I write it off as a side-effect from Amp's.

Yeah, writing is great, you just need to weed out the crazy talk to find a few gems and edit out embellishments. Herewith follows a very good example of a controlled and "edited for facts", meth influenced writing end product. I will say the only inaccuracy is perhaps the choking, which may happen on day 2 and 3.

I find that mouth thing is a bad sign of negative things ahead. Its like a nervous tick of either overstimulation or a binge that has gone on to long. For me its the constant swallowing and sniffing (even if you dont do nasal) tick that i dont really get (i think its from salivating due to hunger) that really fooks my tongue. Also i will tend to choke on my own spit, liquids and food constantly and walk all crooked like an old man and also not want to talk to people or do anything at all.

I find its a sign when you cant even function in terms of basic body actions, its usually time to take a shit load more so you just dont give a shit (meth me's very wrong opinion.)

I shit you not today i took a bit to much (that bastard gave me a "special one" again for being a good customer. I dont know why he hates his good customers so much...) and i was getting bad freezing vasoconstriction and took more meth and it went away. Not that i just felt better but the physical side effects of VasoC literally went away. Crazy shit like that is exactly why I cant get a single grip on managing this shit.

Also pulse is weird, when im high my heart disappears. I cant even feel it with my hand. I like to think its pissed off at me and gone on strike until conditions improve. It would explain my im im heartless bastard when im high.

Naa, im in African man. The land of heat, poverty, dangerous wildlife and cheap ass drugs. Meth is so common and cheap here its the DOC of choice for many of the poorest of the poor living in shacks can afford a daily habit. This has however made it the retirement destination of choice for many drug using poor folk. We take great pride in this.

And for tourists its the only place in the world you can watch poor shack dwellers high on meth trying to challenge nearby lions for scraps of food and getting mauled to death in the process (obviously observing all from the safety of my upper class mansion balcony of course). I like to say their mass sacrifice is what taught me that meth doesnt really give you any super powers and lions should be avoided, on meth and in general. Though i will admit i still avoid looking even a normal house cat directly in the eyes. There are spies everywhere after all.

Anyways, im sure you couldnt tell but again im over stimulated on this shit on day 2 and still staring at a baggie thats still 90% full. I have considered using it for salt or sugar, but apparently those ROA's are the same as nasal/oral, or even introducing family to an unexpected weekend away to tweakerland but i worry i will then need to start sharing my goods and thats just not acceptable from a purely principled standpoint.

So challenge accepted. I will conquer this terrifying badly designed and hard to open baggie of sparkling blissful madness and duel directly with the insanity and his minions myself. Should i prevail I will be working with my supplier on the topic of proper cutting and skimming future product and improved packaging so as to not kill or brain rape other customers. I guess this is why other dealers cut their product so much. For our own good. Bless their noble hearts...

 

[blight12]

Ok, so in all serious, thanks for the responses.

I managed to resolve this in my head and have taken a Seroquel to end things even with product remaining. Its the only solution in my case and the next step will be to manage this remaining dosage properly moving forward.

1. I realized i was taking far to much since when i started with accidental big "shitty street coke type doses" it was quite godly but its not anymore since now i notice the bad things that are happening. The other low dose experience with a friend also showed me how much better far lower doses are even across multiple days and potential binge tolerance increase.

2. Dont be lazy and avoid dealing with and ensuring better results by forcing the end remaining product. Work out how to do that and take less risk with your health by dosing less per session. Try and motivate by realizing you are saving cash and will receive potentially more experiences out of the same purchase. (Will need to work on that one a bit to ensure safety)

4. For me personally i realized some good indicators arent in the physical, but the mental. So apparently the hugely entertaining lines of crazy thought / bouts of genius / madness, voices and other interesting mini experiences within the greater experience are not in fact epic bonuses and/or the desired effects. Wish somebody told me that but it was still fun...

So a big step forward to safer usage and improved quality/safety of experience. Thanks for the feedback so far. Go well.

Secondly, on a much lighter note, this thread would not be complete without some "advanced" learnings.

Some tips and example for users who might test the limits of sensible dosage and navigate the numerous and challenging bonus "mini mind games" you might experience (sometimes referred to as the beginnings of psychosis, but i try to see things in a positive way).
AT minimum let it be a reminder why you should continue to carefully manage your dosages. High doses have been the norm for me it seems (oops) so let me share some helpful hints before i retire from this level of the war. Note this may get a bit "advanced". Continue at your own risk.

A good example happened today. I learnt to rather void watching demonic possession related movies when really really high. Saw the new one "The Possession" which was very good.
If however you do something like this and manage to get stuck in a loop analyzing all the voices in your head in terms of content and "evil "soundingness", stop and remember to think logically, and realize the entity is obviously going to hide/camouflage those indicators from you, so keep an eye on the least "scary" voices, the ones claiming to be your friend.
Its a step forward at least but beware of getting paranoid and falsely accusing a "friendly", like the most important friendly voice of all. Yourself. That would not be a good start.

Eventually i realized that the answer was simple, as it usually is, and that the grandiose thinking that I would likely be awesome enough to be a target for this and worthy of the likely cost/manpower to fund it was an obvious side effect of meth and other stims so, this means im likely all good and not under attack, but to be safe, follow the rest of the steps to begin the process for effective termination of the experience!

Once this and other similar logic traps are resolved and you regain access to other parts of your mind, the secret is that you need to stop focusing on your glorious victory over all the powers of darkness and evil and instead correctly identify it as a symptom of far to much meth. And then dont think "bonus", think "bad".
This is critical, and never easy since the default (bad) reactions about your greatness are usually far more appealing and difficult to ignore.

Then the next step is to end the high in your preferred manner ASAP reasoned effectively depending on your current reality, as in the case of this example, you need to sober up since the evil entities trying to gain access to your mind likely require the drug to remain in your system for some time still to fully complete the transition, so you would want to avoid that by ending the binge soon. Its all very logical.

So the trick really is to use its flawless logic against it and tackle the problem within the supplied parameters of reality of only the problem itself and not actual reality (while still retaining a safe grip on actual reality, tricky but quite obviously critical).

And thats the process to end the high and possibly overcoming any mental or otherworldly resistance or traps, in a largely summarized format.

But hopefully you wont need this and shouldn't be dosing to those levels anyways, and the above should help you see exactly why you should avoid this if possible, but just in case things go horribly wrong, you have some of the tools to stand a small chance of prevailing. Good luck.

To close I will admit that I will miss these "mini games". Such epic battles armed only with your wits against the far superior Flawless Logic beast. A worthy foe indeed no doubt, but is it worth the obvious risks to your longer term sanity?

 

[tabsandcaps]

The biggest indicator as well, but also one when im fooked already, is sitting trapped in a loop writing crazy shit for hours and i cant get out of it or stop it, if i leave the voices make me think about it again and go add things. It demands to be freed unto the world. Lucky much of it never made it on here due to obsessive rewritting until i regained sanity and then deleted it quckly. The world is not ready for some things.

Dude we are a lot alike on meth, that's just the way it is it makes you fiend I've done the same, felt too high, get that just right feeling again and redose just to redose. I wasn't smoking though just sniffing and i slammed it one night but ended up going crazy on my arms when i couldn't hit a vein, So i told myself im not aloud shooting it anymore lol, which I don't mind anyway I want to get away from needles before i'm too far into them. But I had some meth tonight and stuck to one line and one redose when i noticed myself losing concentration and getting less high, (I was playing GTA4 for hours, it helps keep my mind on something other than constantly redosing) And every time i did meth I find myself starting a new thread about the most ridiculous things that I feel I just need to share with people but end up deleting usually after ive written so many paragraphs. Basically I've found meth is just a fiendish drug there's no way around it for me. I'll stick to my cocaine lol. Good luck man and be safe, don;t get too caught up in it bro.

 

[Druidus]

I'm not entirely sure whether you are being metaphorical with your description of "voices" and "evil entities", but if you are literally experiencing these things then you should seriously consider seeking medical help.

 

[tabsandcaps]

I'm not entirely sure whether you are being metaphorical with your description of "voices" and "evil entities", but if you are literally experiencing these things then you should seriously consider seeking medical help.

Also this.

 

[tabsandcaps]

I'm not entirely sure whether you are being metaphorical with your description of "voices" and "evil entities", but if you are literally experiencing these things then you should seriously consider seeking medical help.

This.

Although he might be referring to the subconscious fiend that's let loose on meth. Lol

 

[Venrak]

^i really don't think so.

OP, it sound s like you are in psychosis, go seek medical attention please

 

[Tommyboy]

What part of Africa? Is there heroin there as well?

 

[blight12]

^^^ RSA. Yeah but unlike meth it feels on the slightly expensive side and strangely not often available from the more desired pro dealers who deliver on time etc and they seem to claim its mostly street sold type of product (a scene i am not familiar with but the product seemed good). I am still saddened by the total lack of any pharm opiates and the additional options they could provide.

Anyways to respond to the above queries, "most" of my wierd/crazy and hopefully somewhat humorous or entertaining posts and especially the one above are usually a serious and hopefully accurate/useful attempt at creatively illustrating the type of thinking that occurs and the possible oddities that may corrupt your logic and common sense, best viewed as my impression of the conceptual altered mindset of whatever type of state I am trying to describe, with an attempt at making a point or teaching something (in a rather sneaky way lol). Or its just all nonsense, who knows.

At no point do I believe any of it (in terms of the reality in the experience and not the learnings later) or actually loose touch with realty. In fact i find meth delightful in the fact that it seems to allow crazy (but somehow always logical and usefully creative) thought patters and ways of very strange but structured thinking while at the same time always maintaining total control over the altered states and a strong link to reality and proper precautions in terms of believing any of it.

Its like you spawn multiple contained thought processes with different unique logical rules and structures you can filter ideas and problems through to get totally unique perspectives (so awesome), all with proper "flawless structured logic" but different "rules" if that makes any sense , and then these are all still viewable and available to conciously review but still fully controlled and secured safely away from your main sober mind and sense of true reality (to a point obviously until it becomes psychosis).

Monitoring these and analyzing or at least considering for a while, especially reviewing written while high works while sober (and an open mind) can and have revealed a ton of very interesting ideas in terms of lateral logical thinking or unique angles to ideas your inherent human learned logical processed would never come across, but are still totally useful in some way. Mostly for conceptual stuff and optimizing your way of thinking (like the stuff in my drug culture post) and problem solving.

I try to focus on post content with tons of interesting learnings/warnings/interesting insights into human nature and entertainment value etc. If you can get past the content being a joke, crazy tweaker talk or just an interesting experience that is. Discovering these things through examples, like I provide, are far more valuable then simply explaining the core idea directly.

If its total crap when i read it sober I will usually edit it, so it might all be total crap, some crap, no crap or partial crap, but thats just my opinion and some posts are just to far gone to bother with, but i may just be totally nuts, i dont even know myself. Thats the fun part.

Oh and everything is of course different in the eye of the beholder, so a genuine insanity based post can still offer insights to a specific person or groups of them.

So my explanation doesnt really matter much, because my most valuable, useful and empowering learning in life by far is that data, knowledge, information and experiences and any of the potential value possibly obtained from it every day of your life should never be pre judged emotionally, with ignorance/pride based superior over others thinking, the "fear of the unknown" concept, the automatically superior over all conflicting view points and this not considering them etc (you get the idea. We all do it unconsciously every day).

Rather all data and input should be valued equally and analyzed properly, especially in terms of the judgment of SOURCE of the experience or information which is our biggest inherent concern even though its utterly irrelevant in terms of potential for generating possible value.

I know some will justifying these flaws using the judgement of the probabilities for value and thus saving time on potentially less valuable info.
This becomes a non issue and is not a valid argument at all and defeats the entire point. Also others might be concerned with the time issue in terms of dedicating equal attention to everything. This will become a non issue in every way once the concept is properly understood.
Its quite cool once its all up and running.

So for example, is it logical that a loopy tweakers post will 100% of the time never contain anything of value to you or anybody who considers them self superior to that source, the content source or the person source. Of course not but we automatically review and analyze most data in life like this all the time.
Your brain wont be in max learning and memory storage mode when you read it, thats for sure, and a great shame if you miss some random gift of insight due to this.
Consider your potential for growth if you where learning and improving from 90% of all data your senses provide every day, instead of everybody else who only values 10% of it enough to allow for proper analysis and potential for value due to points mentioned above.

I know of no greater potential for unlimited exponential personal growth and true fulfillment from life in every way that can be better achieved other then fully and genuinely understanding and correctly implementing/automating the thought processes and concepts in the above two paragraphs. In my very humble, respectful and personal opinion of course.

But i get really high when i consider these things so its definite just my opinion and could be more meth insanity and total nonsense so I dont really have any idea which it is at the end of the day to be truly honest. I'm might just be an eccentric tweaker who likes to talk crap and sound clever after all... I honestly dont know either way quite yet.

Or do any of these previously important considerations now no longer have any relevance at all to possible value gained from something when using proper logical analysis and reality/sanity/your core values to ensure quality control?

OK, im just not stopping this writing and probably repeating things etc so emergency exit needed, im done and my brain feels fried. I hope it was somewhat interesting or whatever. I tend to go on and rant and like to write a lot about interesting things, take it as you will.

Now i just need to avoid those pesky writing loop rentry mind traps and avoid coming back to edit/add to this post a billion times until its original intent is grossly mutated and the entire point lost forever. Those bastards are a bit more tricky so this post and any useful info is likely to degrade and self destruct over the... ffs more rather bold loop traps, so sneaky and cunning, i am now physically fleeing access to my notebook. The Final End Of Post.