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Men like women with no makeup? WAT??

Jesus you're nitpicky. Ok, the guys with a foot fetish like feet more than ass and tits. You win. But I'm not going to edit my post to include a disclaimer saying " all guys like ass and tits EXCEPT for these guys:" and list every fetish in the world.

a) My fetish is not that overwhelming and I appreciate all the other parts of her body besides her legs. B) It might be the case that after you enumerate every fetish in the world and see how many it applies to, that a significant minority (if not in fact, a majority) of people have one and that therefore the generalization of "tits and ass" might not be that accurate to describe the population at large.
 
All straight, non-fetish-having, non-animal-fucking men only care about your tits and ass and don't care that you spent 8 hours in the salon or that you bought a $500 pair of shoes.

That PC enough for you?

Beachcat said:
Oh definitely still an ass. Lol

Mission accomplished.
 
A little makeup to accentuate good looks can be nice, but I really prefer a woman who is pretty without any. I mean it's nice that a woman wants to look her best by adding to her existing good looks with makeup/dressing up, etc. but it's really not an important thing, imo. So I guess I'm mostly indifferent. Though for me charm trumps looks. I'm not saying looks don't matter; just that they don't matter as much.

Can I tell if she's wearing makeup? Every single fuckin' time. :)
 
All straight, non-fetish-having, non-animal-fucking men only care about your tits and ass and don't care that you spent 8 hours in the salon or that you bought a $500 pair of shoes.

That PC enough for you?



Mission accomplished.

Had nothing to do with being PC. It was strictly about the validity of your model. On that note, one could argue that the strict concern with tits and ass is itself a fetish.
 
I prefer girls without make up. And girls that fuck on the first date...

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WAT is going on here....

I'm sure all the girls reading this appreciate the fact that you like their nails.


Tits and ass is not all I'm attracted to. That's extremely shallow. It is, however, all that is going to swing me one way or the other when it comes to your appearance. If a girl is a 6 but has perfect cleavage, that's going to bump her up a few points. If you're a 6 and your best asset is well-manicured nails? Woop dee fuckin doo.


But then you say:

A girl who looks good without makeup is potential wifey material. That's that natural beauty and it's hard to find.

I realize that "personality is what matters" is what ugly girls say, but this is why they say it.

So rangrz says he likes a well-manicured girl, but nice boobs trumps his preferences?

ETA: A few days ago, this guy at work who I have strong chemistry with was saying some chick in the office he's seeing said that dressing conservatively gets men. He and I agreed that this is what girls who don't like sex say. He laughed, because she is not sexual at all.

Looks do matter, and a lot of that is based on makeup, manicures, plucking eyebrows, getting your hair did and all the things that are unnatural that girls do to make themselves pretty.
 
So rangrz says he likes a well manicured girl, but nice boobs trumps his
preferences?

No. It simply does not, and that is a brute fact that can not be reduced further.

As for girls not liking sex? I'm sure some don't. But I find a sexual, sensual girl attractive and non sexual girls I find unattractive.
 
WAT is going on here....




But then you say:



I realize that "personality is what matters" is what ugly girls say, but this is why they say it.

So rangrz says he likes a well-manicured girl, but nice boobs trumps his preferences?

You only quoted half my post. I said that guys like girls who look good without makeup, but girls who look good without makeup also look good with makeup. Basically: guys just like hot chicks. The makeup is irrelevant.

Lysis said:
ETA: A few days ago, this guy at work who I have strong chemistry with was saying some chick in the office he's seeing said that dressing conservatively gets men. He and I agreed that this is what girls who don't like sex say. He laughed, because she is not sexual at all.

Looks do matter, and a lot of that is based on makeup, manicures, plucking eyebrows, getting your hair did and all the things that are unnatural that girls do to make themselves pretty.

You just proved my point. He's STILL dating her even though she dresses like an Amish housewife. The only reason she's not having sex is because she's choosing not to. If she wanted to have sex, she would get it.
 
You just proved my point. He's STILL dating her even though she dresses like an Amish housewife. The only reason she's not having sex is because she's choosing not to. If she wanted to have sex, she would get it.


Actually, no, he dumped her for me. :D I have quite the conundrum, but that is another story.
 
Whoa whoa, hang on.

So let me get this straight here.

The reason 90%+ of guys don't even look at me twice is because I don't look like a skank? I never would have guessed!

Oh and to whoever says that conservatively dressed women aren't sexual are kidding themselves. I dress conservatively (and, admittedly, somewhat masculine) because it's how I want to be dressed. Get me into bed and you won't regret it. I don't have nice breasteseses, have a decent bottom, have a decent face, above average intelligence, and am completely self sufficient, but there are next to no men that would go out with me because I don't wear a push up bra or tight pants?

Gives me TONS of hope for the direction of the world.
 
^i agree with the conclusion you finally came to...

most of your other premises and therefore conclusions were laughable though. total crap

What? I've been saying the same thing for 2 pages. Maybe not as elegantly as that last post, but it's still the same point.

Actually, no, he dumped her for me. :D I have quite the conundrum, but that is another story.

That's irrelevant to my point. She got dumped for one of a million reasons (she didn't put out, you're hotter than her, etc) but he still dated her in the first place despite her 1800s fashion sense.
 
That's irrelevant to my point. She got dumped for one of a million reasons (she didn't put out, you're hotter than her, etc) but he still dated her in the first place despite her 1800s fashion sense.

No, it's not irrelevant.

You said "You just proved my point. He's STILL dating her even though she dresses like an Amish housewife. " and I pointed out that he dumped her. I know why he did, but again, that's another story, but the reason she got dumped involves some of the stuff being mentioned here.

He's no different than a lot of people. They date whatever comes along until there's the opportunity for an upgrade.
 
^ hahaha you know that ;)

^ Come now S_L, the reason you don't get guys is not because you don't wear makeup, but because you look like a lesbian. You dress butch, not just conservative. Guys don't want that, and most will not be anything more than your friend unless you act like a heterosexual woman (and homosexual too...but that's secondary)...Most guys won't get to find out you're a hot mama in bed, simply because you portray yourself as unavailable.

Instinctively MOST hetero/bi women will be attracted to a guy who is masculine, with a heavy HINT of feminine - they like to know a guy is in touch with his feminine side - it shows he is truly confident in the world. The same rule will applz for women to hetero/bi men - we like girls who are feminine with a HINT of masculine in there, even a heavy hint.

I personally don't like girls with short hair, but if the rest of how she acts is very feminine, I don't mind if she's a ladette with short hair, because she's feminine - it's attractive to the hetero animal in me.

If a lass has short hair, dresses like a guy, doesn't make any efforts to draw attention to her femininity, then she's not going to be attractive to me is she...most of the time.

Clothing for instance - this is not necessary, but female clothing draws attention to and accentuates womanly curves. Make up is not necessary, I personally don't see the need if I am attracted to a lass BUT I appreciate a small amount of well applied make up - it accentuates eyes, cheeks. Any more than a touch, habitually is narcissism in my book, that's unattractive.

If a girl wears jogging clothes all the time, but draws attention to the fact that she's feminine in manner, or with long hair, or a touch of make up, then I'd be willing to hit on her, because chances are she just needs a little reassurance she is sexy. if she was attracted to fellas, then as her confidence went up, I'm sure she would start dressing more feminine. I have seen it happen time and time again. People dress a certain way, because they either don't want to attract a certain type of person, or they don't find themselves attractive.
 
we like girls who are feminine with a HINT of masculine in there, even a heavy hint.
i don't think every guy is like that, but i definately am.

btw, right now i have a huge crush on a girl who never wears make-up, has short hair and in general doesn't act girl-ish. but she is very smart and it's mostly her personality which makes her sexy to me. :)
 
I thought you were gay, S_L? That's just a question and not meant to be rude. If you are indeed bi and are interested in men, then I'm sorry but you will lose to the girl who exudes her feminine sexuality, portrays herself as a little sex kitten, and generally puts off that vibe that she likes sex with men. It's perfectly natural for straight men to go after that type of girl. Even if it's just to have sex with her and not for a relationship, he still wants her at some level.

You might not care, and that's cool and you might even find some guy who befriends you and you eventually wind up having sex with him because you TELL him you're into men, but when men pick up on you being a butch lesbian, they will back off naturally. I honestly thought you were a butch lesbian and not interested in men.

You'll be surprised what a little makeup, heels and a mini skirt can do for a girl. lol
 
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