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The Big & Dandy 6-APB Thread (Part 5)

Damn, that sucks badly!

I've always had a good time with a gel cap, or just dissolved in water, on an empty stomach - and sometimes even a wonderous time!

Though I've been curious about plugging 6, I think I'll skip it, given your experience!
 
yes, 170mg dissolved in hot&sweet ginger tea on a completely empty stomach shot me to a +++ in approximately 60min. but the problem is that I feel hesitant to go on a mentally&physically challenging 10h+ trip without enough nutrients in my system. :( [preparing a wholesome chicken soup for ~t+2 can be a good solution - but it can also be an annoying distraction..]

maybe my reaction was idiosyncratic or just random. and maybe I should add that I also ingested ~800mg of piracetam @t-2h and used a few drops of vinegar for better dissolution (did help) - but unlikely that this had anything to do with the negative reaction..
 
Some just arrived in the mail just in time for the weekend! :D

johannes kreisler said:
yes, 170mg dissolved in hot&sweet ginger tea on a completely empty stomach shot me to a +++ in approximately 60min. but the problem is that I feel hesitant to go on a mentally&physically challenging 10h+ trip without enough nutrients in my system. :( [preparing a wholesome chicken soup for ~t+2 can be a good solution - but it can also be an annoying distraction..
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I wouldn't worry too much about nutrients. So long as you eat properly normally, your body can easily go days without food so long as you're drinking plenty of water. Staying hydrated is the key issue, don't you think?
 
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I've been a semi-pro mountainbiker for years; I still get verrryyy grumpy when I feel I'm not well fed... ;) (and yes: I do drink liters of isotonic beverages whenever I trip ;) )
 
t6apb said:
lol at even attempting to make and/or eat some chicken soup 2 hours into a 6apb trip!
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heheh. Indeed. Normally I have no appetite, but did once eat a few expensive chocolates between sex with my girl.
 
the thought of any type of food is utterly grotesque and gag worthy, i can barely manage simple fruit and thats a good few hours later when im starting to come down
 
Think we all get grumpy if we ain't fed during normal conditions, but grumpy on an empty stomach & apb just don't happen :D I personally start winding down the food intake about 8 hours before I start an apb sesh, and start again about 24 hours later. I seem to function better! No nausea for a start.
 
i'd personally rather not eat on any stimulant drugs, no appetite and no real need to really. i tend to just have a light meal and take plenty of vitamins beforehand, and some vitamins throughout
 
johannes kreisler said:
maybe you guys are right. :)

(was thinking of the oriental chicken soup I prepared for my last aMT-session. marvellous. and tons of fruits. <3)
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If you're worried, prepare something beforehand that you will enjoy cold- at least you'll have the option. But like IggiBizzle said, getting grumpy seems unlikely! :D
 
My whole vision warps to the point where sizes of objects are no longer comparable. This is particularly amusing when trying to pack a bowl for the bong hahaha
 
dezz said:
Hm, was hoping for the comedown to be a little easier then mdma, not worse...
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I would barely call the long, slow, easy slide down from a 6-APB peak a come-down. Nothing like as heavy as I'd get from good 1990-91 Es, it's just a bit of thick-headedness, lethargy, residual stimulation on the way down to sleep, which does take at least ~16 hours to come from dosing for me but no more than that even from high doses. Never had anything like the Suicide Tuesdays I got from E when I was hammering it every weekend back then either, even when I've had a bit of a run over a handful of consecutive weekends, which is not to be recommended BTW, obviously, but there you are.

Of course, as in all things YMMV, and I've not had MDMA for probably 15 years or more now, I have no idea how stuff out there at the moment might affect me so can't make an accurate comparison, but FWIW.
 
David the Chansey said:
My whole vision warps to the point where sizes of objects are no longer comparable. This is particularly amusing when trying to pack a bowl for the bong hahaha
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haha yes, the best is when you are smoking the bong, insane trip followed by the smoothest and most relaxing bong hit possible
 
Sepher said:
I would barely call the long, slow, easy slide down from a 6-APB peak a come-down. Nothing like as heavy as I'd get from good 1990-91 Es, it's just a bit of thick-headedness, lethargy, residual stimulation on the way down to sleep, which does take at least ~16 hours to come from dosing for me but no more than that even from high doses. Never had anything like the Suicide Tuesdays I got from E when I was hammering it every weekend back then either, even when I've had a bit of a run over a handful of consecutive weekends, which is not to be recommended BTW, obviously, but there you are.

Of course, as in all things YMMV, and I've not had MDMA for probably 15 years or more now, I have no idea how stuff out there at the moment might affect me so can't make an accurate comparison, but FWIW.
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Alrighty then, will try this substance at home first just chilling, what dose would you people recommend for someone well experienced with MDMA both low and high doses?
 
Depends what intensity you're looking for. As with MDMA, the higher you push the dose, the more stimulating it gets. I would suggest about 100-120mg in a calm home setting where you are looking to gauge the substance and don't need a high intensity experience.
 
yeah 125mg perfect for indoors, i like to follow it up with another 100mgs about 2 hours in, the high lasts that bit longer plus the visuals and trippiness starts to shine through alot stronger, not too stimulating either. weed is a must too
 
Does anyone have specific tips or suggestions on how to avoid the nausea while coming up? I personally handled 75mg (in "pellet" form) just fine, although I had the urge to gag a few times while talking for the first hour or so, but my girlfriend has been nauseous to the point of having to sit in one spot and maybe watch TV for at least an hour after taking it. This happened with 50mg and 75mg... So now she's wary about taking it before going out. She enjoys the trip, just not getting there.

So, any suggestions? Besides plugging it... Maybe crushing it and parachuting it so it's dissolved into the system faster? Dissolved into some seltzer maybe? Maybe stagger 75mg into 3 doses taken 30 min or so apart? I have lots of ideas, but I'm curious what's worked for other people.
 
Staggering doses is usually pretty effective for most things. Some freshly sliced ginger tea is always good an lemon essential oil is also supposed to work, although I haven't tried it.
 
Never experienced any hint of nausea coming up (ROA: 70-170mgs, oral gels caps on empty stomach).
 
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