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GBL Megathread 5: Germans do it better

No, as I said, I'm happy to listen to voices of good reason kate...I appreciate the advice....

Peope have said similar things to me about benzos, but for me benzos fulfill a functional need, so I tend to ignore (not completely ignore, i use benzos weekly now probably, and only to bring on sleeep). GHB sounds like it would fill a very recreational desire, and would be much harder for me to moderate.

I will use the 5g's, but if i explain all this to my missis, she'll weigh it up, and decide not to anyway...it's the dose sensitivity, fine line stuff that would put her off.
 
It is very stimulating, at the right dose, mate. The first dose makes you want to dance about - hence why it's a club drug, and is prescribed for narcolepsy. I've spent nights out on G, not being able to sit down. At higher doses, it becomes sedating. The first dose makes me need a come-up shit and everything. It releases a load of dopamine, hence the pro-sexual, and stimulating effects (and why it mixes so well with stimulants). At higher doses, it starts acting on GABA more, then it's more like benzos/booze. Used properly, you won't pass out.
 
The dopamine rebound thing is bollocks. However, first sentence:
Just so you all know, the 'dopamine rebound' theory is incorrect. G is a physically addictive substance, in the classical sense, like heroin or cocaine.
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Cocaine is not physically addictive - it's psychologically addictive - nothing like heroin dependence. The rest of what he says is sort of true - the reason for withdrawal is because your GABA-b receptors are downregulated. I don't believe alcohol is active on GABA-b sites (and if it is, it's very little) and benzos don't help with severe withdrawal. I've said a load of times that the dopamine things is bollocks. A GABA agent will stop dopamine being released, but G actually releases a lot, at the same time. It's very simple GABA-b withdrawal. It's almost identical to how benzo withdrawal works. Don't read Drugs Forum, it's bag of SWIMming shit.
 
You can drink with G but it is the number one fast-track to an unanticipated nap. I have seen it claim newbies and veterans alike for a slumber and I can't recommend against it enough. It's not just the direct interaction but the additional inhibition leads you to being way less careful with the combo than one should be. If you say that getting the dose right is important for you on this occasion then I'd be very wary. Perhaps dose the G early in the night, before you start drinking as G before alcohol is a little less risky.
 
I'd vote for t'other way 'round meself, Transfrom. As long as the concerned folk wasn't a total noob. I regularly used Guice to sober me up from a drinking sesh. (and also used Guice regularly whether drinking or not). Don't agree with the "unanticipated nap" stuff by a gazillion miles. Not unless you dose horribly.

In general HR terms though, not the ideal combo by a long way...
 
Yeah it's not something I've ever seen end well - perhaps as more experienced users you can handle it but it's certainly not a combo I can I suggest G first because it wears off so much quicker. With alcohol first people tend to underestimate how much the alcohol is affecting them and hit the deck pretty quick.
 
you took a dose on a full stomach seems like the culprite here?
No gbl plasma spike to get you out of feeling like shit, and maybe if the 2ml did get you as high it did so slowly and was less noticeable?
 
Aye never underestimate the negative effect a very full s0otmach can have on the strength of drugs when taken orally (ime anyways)
 
Everybody was right, I did like GHB =D

Might get some more, but not the sort of thing I'd use except in conjuntion with meph and Ugandan affairs. So I really really don't see it being a problem for me.
 
Apologies for the post removal people, we cannot discuss the synthesis of GHB from GBL...tis the rules.

Extrations yes ...Synthesis no .....I thank you;)
 
I've tried G whilst on Xanax, and didn't feel much, until the Xanax wore off. I was dosing and dosing, for about 7 hours, with little effect - then, boom. Lights out. Benzos seem to block the action of G, possibly because the GHB receptor isn't activated as well as it should be. (GHB is a stimulant, in the amounts we have in our brains).
 
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When I overdosed the hospital gave me IV Diazepam to bring me around.
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That sounds as dangerous as giving you a bottle of vodka, but something tells me it worked. So, where did they get the knowledge/idea to do that?

Oh, hang on. I know of someone that was admitted for GBL OD, and they were given benzos - to stop the chance of a seizure. I don't think it's dangerous to mix the two, but I wouldn't count on it.
 
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Sodium, as it's the only one I've had. I doubt many people have had anything but the sodium salt. The other ways just seemed like a waste of time making.
 
recently synthed using Sodium Bicarbonate and it was actually pretty great :D

So if NaOH isn't about Sodium Bicarbonate is a good alternative ;)

(and yes I realize that the salt produced is the same...)
 
Had tough time getting the pH level right with Sodium Bicarb. Easier with NaOH for some reason but bicarb definately works. Been a long time since I had G... wish I had easier access these days. =(
 
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