Staying Clean v. JaNEWary

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new month, new year, new beginnings :) spent new years at an NA speakathon which was fantastic. January 5th will be my one year mark. how's everyone doing today?
 
happy new year people......103 days clean and sober i made it threw the holidays was hard man but hey i am here =D
Heres to a clean and sober year good luck people <3
 
That's a great accomplishment gman!

Hope everyone is able to stay sober <3
 
new month, new year, new beginnings :) spent new years at an NA speakathon which was fantastic. January 5th will be my one year mark. how's everyone doing today?

God it's been a year already (or almost)? Good job man. Keep it up.

It would have been 1 year for me in September or so, but I relapsed in a really bad way. I was really beating myself up over it for a while, but that just led to more use and abuse. I've been off of it for about a month. Was really considering going back on maintinence, but I can't do that anymore either. It always ends up being a bigger trigger for me, since it gets me off somewhat... just enough of a taste to push me to go out and destroy my life all over, again and again. I have been so insainly lucky over the past 10 years. I'm done pushing myself on that front.

2013 is going to end up being one of the most important years of my life, no doubt.

What went down at the speak-a-thon?

think im gonna go from now to february 1st without tobacco. 8(

How long have you been smoking?
happy new year people......103 days clean and sober i made it threw the holidays was hard man but hey i am here =D
Heres to a clean and sober year good luck people <3
Nice work on 100+. Fuck, the holidays were so hard. I had to skip out on some festivities, to make sure I'd stay clean. Some people were pissed and let down at first, but I explained myself. I've been really open about my use in the past, so I'm now being open about my recovery.
 
new month, new year, new beginnings :) spent new years at an NA speakathon which was fantastic. January 5th will be my one year mark. how's everyone doing today?

Awesome! Congratulations!

I'm definitely struggling with sobriety right now. I really don't wanna go back to a 12-step program, but I need some sort of support network. And I don't want to be "fully" sober. I mainly want to eliminate alcohol, stimulants, and benzos from my life, but I want to be able to use psychedelics recreationally. Is that a bad idea? I also wanna finally quit smoking!
 
speakathon was fucking bad ass. had people share their stories every hour on the hour so it was a lot of recovery. first new year clean that I can remember. if youre ever in the st Louis area ill show you around to some awesome meetings.
 
I was going to move to St. Paul back when I was using, long story short.
Awesome! Congratulations!

I'm definitely struggling with sobriety right now. I really don't wanna go back to a 12-step program, but I need some sort of support network. And I don't want to be "fully" sober. I mainly want to eliminate alcohol, stimulants, and benzos from my life, but I want to be able to use psychedelics recreationally. Is that a bad idea? I also wanna finally quit smoking!
Do YOU think it's a good idea?
 
Man, I was in AA and NA for years....I had 3 years clean off everything one time.....I don't know if I can handle going back and hearing it all again, but there's really nobody else out there to talk to about it.....

The fanatical emphasis on "the steps" is what gets me...I mean, I don't have a "problem" with the steps, but it can get where that's all certain people talk about at all!! IDK
 
DexterMeth said:
Do YOU think it's a good idea?

It's hard to answer objectively, really. Sometimes I believe that I've been indoctrinated to think that abstaining from all "drugs" is the only way to go. But I think psychedelics are stigmatized unfairly. I mean, smoking and drinking coffee is acceptable to people in AA. I don't like how black-and-white some people make it out to be. Bill Wilson dropped acid during his sobriety, and he even allegedly advocated its use to treat alcoholism. And I've tripped what I would consider to be a fair amount, and I always have those moments of introspection that actually inspire me to strive for sobriety and changing my lifestyle.

BlueHues said:
Man, I was in AA and NA for years....I had 3 years clean off everything one time.....I don't know if I can handle going back and hearing it all again, but there's really nobody else out there to talk to about it.....

The fanatical emphasis on "the steps" is what gets me...I mean, I don't have a "problem" with the steps, but it can get where that's all certain people talk about at all!! IDK

That's one thing I have a problem with, too. Getting inundated with same regurgitated stories and cliches can get very tiresome to me. I don't like how jaded I've become about AA/NA, and maybe I need to examine that further because I'm probably just being too judgmental. My biggest problem with the program is not the steps, which I actually think are awesome, but the fellowship aspect. Don't get me wrong, I've met awesome people in recovery, but I don't want my life to revolve around AA, either. My mom maybe goes to one or two meetings a week and has friends from the program, but AA is not her life. I think I might just be focusing too much on the negative when I go into meetings because it's a lot easier to identify the negative rather than exerting the effort to change my mentality about the things that annoy me.

Btw, I know there are support groups out there that don't utilize the 12-steps. Perhaps look to see if there are some in your area? There are many places that provide free counseling, too. Maybe that could be an adequate alternative? :)
 
It's hard to answer objectively, really. Sometimes I believe that I've been indoctrinated to think that abstaining from all "drugs" is the only way to go. But I think psychedelics are stigmatized unfairly. I mean, smoking and drinking coffee is acceptable to people in AA. I don't like how black-and-white some people make it out to be. Bill Wilson dropped acid during his sobriety, and he even allegedly advocated its use to treat alcoholism. And I've tripped what I would consider to be a fair amount, and I always have those moments of introspection that actually inspire me to strive for sobriety and changing my lifestyle.



That's one thing I have a problem with, too. Getting inundated with same regurgitated stories and cliches can get very tiresome to me. I don't like how jaded I've become about AA/NA, and maybe I need to examine that further because I'm probably just being too judgmental. My biggest problem with the program is not the steps, which I actually think are awesome, but the fellowship aspect. Don't get me wrong, I've met awesome people in recovery, but I don't want my life to revolve around AA, either. My mom maybe goes to one or two meetings a week and has friends from the program, but AA is not her life. I think I might just be focusing too much on the negative when I go into meetings because it's a lot easier to identify the negative rather than exerting the effort to change my mentality about the things that annoy me.

Btw, I know there are support groups out there that don't utilize the 12-steps. Perhaps look to see if there are some in your area? There are many places that provide free counseling, too. Maybe that could be an adequate alternative? :)

It's a question to answer yourself obviously. You said "recreationally" though before. I personally don't see a problem with it at all, so long as you cut out the addictive and destructive stuff. If tripping leads you to use more of those other drugs though, you're then stuck in a loop.
 
2012 was the worst year of my life. Hit rock bottom and struggled throughout the year to try and gain sobriety. I actually cried last night when l reflected back on just how fucking shitty the whole last year was. My boyfriend and l have reconciled and l hope that we are able to leave everything behind us and rebuild the life and the happiness that we shared before we thought doing heroin was a good idea lol...he has over six months and my path has had a few bumps, buy l finally feel like dope has lost the firm grip that it had on me. Congratulations to all of you who have really managed to turn your life around. You are truly an inspiration.
Happy New Year y'all ...Amy:)
 
218 days clean and sober today...

thing just blew up with my lover, probably losing the girl I love... I dont want to use and heroin, or even pot for that matter, but I'm wanting to start drinking... meet people in bars, have a good time and stop missing out...

I may just be sad, but i dont know anymore...
 
218 days clean and sober today...

thing just blew up with my lover, probably losing the girl I love... I dont want to use and heroin, or even pot for that matter, but I'm wanting to start drinking... meet people in bars, have a good time and stop missing out...

I may just be sad, but i dont know anymore...
I'm sorry to hear that man. I've lost relationships while clean and its tough: my fiance and my childhood bestfriend are together, the love of my life (not my ex fiance) barely speaks to me anymore, etc. I still stayed clean despite all that. I learned to enjoy being single which allows me to focus on myself. yeah it blows not getting regular sex but I have to be careful about "using people" like I used drugs. I used people for a while just cuz I liked the way they made me feel. it was a new high in a sense. I guess I am classified as codependent.
 
^ ya eh, i can relate to all that... i need to figure out my shit here...

love is a high eh, with really bad lows / comedowns...

i know a broken relationship isnt an excuse to drink, but i kind of just want to... i know its a slippery slope as well, and its famous words to say it wont bring me to drugs....
 
love is a high eh, with really bad lows / comedowns...

i know a broken relationship isnt an excuse to drink, but i kind of just want to... i know its a slippery slope as well, and its famous words to say it wont bring me to drugs....

Love truly is a high. I was with someone for 4.5 years and he took me on the worst roller-coaster ride of my life. I would get high to balance out the lows in our relationship and it was a vicious fucking circle. I found out he cheated on me and that was the last straw. Now I'm trying to focus on my life & getting clean -- and staying clean -- before I bring anyone else that close to me again. I know I did my fair share of hurting him with my addiction and I think about it every damn day. It's part of life that I have to learn from I guess.

In regards to drinking, please be very careful. I'm not going to sit here and tell you not to do it because essentially it comes down to you and your choice - but I will tell you the following. Whenever I drink I crave benzos/opiates so much more. This past NYE I drank way, way too much. It led to intense cravings, it was awful. I even said to my friend that I'd rather take pills than drink. Thankfully I didn't say "shoot H" because that's still a secret that no one really knows about except my BL family. I can't drink that heavily anymore even if its just socially. I had 13 drinks and 5 shots- completely gone. It was a fun time, don't get me wrong, but it's NOT worth it. It's not worth the cravings, the hangover, etc.

I hope everything works out okay in your relationship. But what I truly hope for is that you find peace and happiness in a healthy way. <3

218 days clean and counting. That's amazing. Don't let anyone rob you of that.
 
@Dex-i dont smoke cigs [regularly], but find myself using tobacco when smoking ndtitl.. i.e. wraps, etc. im on the tail end of a broken leg and i need it to heal up 100%
 
I switched over to e-cigs for a year or so then eventually hopped off of that. My nicotine input though was A LOT higher when I was on e-cigs than when I was smoking tobacco. It saved me a lot of money though, that's for sure, and I was able to breath.

I was in a really bad wreck in the last quarter of 2011. Really glad I had an e-cig then.

If you can quit without them or gum, etc, I'd do it.
 
I enjoy smoking too much to quit right now. ill quit when I hate it. e-cigs just aren't the same to me. I tried it. there's just something about the whole ritual of lighting up, ashing, and flicking the butt that only a real cig can offer. also smoke feels different than vapor and the taste is different. that's just me though.
 
Oh no doubt. I only spent $25 on a bottle of nicotine liquid though in 2011, and was vaping daily.
There are a lot of other actives in cigs though, and combustion of vs. vaporization tends to produce different results, i.e. look at the differences with cannabis.

Money aside, I just like being able to breath when I exercise and all that.
 
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