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Advice on rolling amounts, and time periods.

mollyhead

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So first off rather not have any judgement. I dont really care what is recommended but I would like advice, all because I roll 4 times in single month might mean ill go 3 before I go again. Really depends on my work schedule and what shows I wana see.

So I first tried molly (my group of friends were already quite familiar with it because they went to alot of live music etc) with my gf at the time. We both loved it but like 2 months later we went to see a show and couldnt find molly so we got some E pills that ended up being super speedy. Long story short it turned us off it for a long time. Than This past summer went to music festival and candy flipped great time.

When me and my gf broke up found myself little more social and getting into the EDM scene and having a pretty legit crew thats alot of fun and keeps eye on each other. Sry for the whole backlog just giving some insight into how i got into rolling. Towards end of november we went back to back days to two different venues till about 5 am in the morning. Did about .7 first night and significantly better batch did .5 and had like a 2.5 hour peak it was great. So now that .5 with 2.5 hour peak became the holly grail of my EDM friends so for NYE and night before was two HUGGE lineups. So i got an ounce and pretty much was able to break even with 6 grams for free on top. Sold 3 for pure profit and kept the other three. One of the grams I had hand picked the big crystals. So for first night i did about 1.1 of the big crystals put one of the 4 big crystals (equaling 1.1 grams.) under my tounge in about 30-45 minute intervals, had a decent peak but it was quite short like 45 mins or an hour. I really wanted to get another peak (maybe with tolerance etc its impossible to double peak) so i did another .4. My roll was good but didnt increase significantly by the extra molly.

Now NYE we get to venue little later than expected my girl i brought drops .3 and i literally just dump majority of a 1.1 gram bag into my hand (lot of security so didnt feel like pinking it through night also wanted to get on level asap.) I assumed that since I had taken quite alot total night before I would have to do alot NYE to even attempt to roll. I was wrong, I wouldnt say it was a mistake but it was definetly the most intense peak I ever experienced. Within about 15 minutes i was on a differnet level hard to focus on one thing just intense waves of eurphoria, almost to hard to handle but not quite there. My initial reaction was oh fuck i took to much but again people I party with we have each other back and look outt for each. So i explained to my girl calmly (which kinda felt bad about cause it was her only second time rolling and now pressure was on her). that i may had taken a little to much that I was fine but that she had to stay close and if i looked like i was going to lose consciousness or anything that nature to have me stop dancing and to make sure I continued to drink water. SO the next 45 minutes was just insane but in a good way (think u can all agree with its psychodelics, or molly feeling safe makes all the difference). I knew my girl was gonna keep and eye on me and my friends as well so it was all good. It was interesting cause the peak has three stages which I never expierenced before first was almost to hard to handle and I was sweating so hard I actually freaked out for half a second and though i pissed myself cause pants were wet but when i looked down and my white shirt was not off grey and pants where solid darker color knew I had not pissed myself went HAM jumping around for 5 mins than decided time to rehydrate. I end up having best night ever and end up doing another total of 1.5 grams that night.


So that really gives you a background let me go through some questions and what I have going on. So me and my peoples have this down to a science since we go in realtivly large groups to different venues all over we always make sure to have pedilight, orange juice, gum, fruit etc in the car, we never drink alcohol and we hydrate whole way up and whole way back. Other than exhaustion from jumping around nonstop fir 16 hours out of 48 hours I have gotten to a system where i expierence absolutly not come down or hangover. Having gum and light up mouth guard first morning no jaw pain but NYE night I lost my mouth guard and they made us throw out cigs and gum before entering (fucking wierd) so when i lost my mouth guard I was kinda fucked. This morning no hangover but def a sore jaw. I find constantly opening ur jaw wide to stretch it out can make it feel better by end of the day. So really wat I am asking is am i over egotisitcal or if i am honestly having no side affects the next day or two I might have a good system in place. I got another 2 shows to go to come end of Jan and I know its all close together, but I have had nothing even close to depression or anything hell in between the festival and first back to back shows in end of november i broke up with my gf over 3 years which should have been a depressing thing but I guess even with molly comedowns before where i did get little depressed I was able to acknowledge it as a side effect of drug I was taking so wasnt an issue.

Also 1000mg in a gram right cause even from begining I couldnt imagine only doing a .1 and having a good time I couldnt even imagine doing a .2 and rolling all night. If I dont wana go HAM and its been over a month since my last roll I can get by with a pretty good roll on .5 but if I wana go HAM looking at .7 min.

Also as I mentioned with crystals it was same MDMA as the stuff the next day, but I took less NYEand rolled wayyyy harder. Is that 1.) because fat crystals look cool but better if its broken up or 2.) the amount u initially takes plays large part it the peak, while amount overall determines the overall rolll across the board.
 
So first off rather not have any judgement. I dont really care what is recommended but I would like advice, all because I roll 4 times in single month might mean ill go 3 before I go again. Really depends on my work schedule and what shows I wana see.

Taking a wild guess here and I'll say you're not here for advice, you're here to read it's okay to take that much MDMA.

If it's real and pure MDMA were talking about and you keep going at this rate chances are rather big you'll end up with side-effects.

For your questions:

1) always break down your crystals. Just like grinding your weed it aids absorption.
2) first dose pretty much defines how "high" you will get, anything added is to prolong the experience or put more stress on your body.

On a side note: What's up with everyone having to take MDMA all the time ? There are so much other nice molecules out there. I love MDMA and have enough for a whole lifetime but I only take 130mg+40mg per 3months. If you just wanna get fucked now that you're young, keep it up like you're doing now. I believe "drugs" are for adults who want to learn something and therefor I would advise you to slow down. Has any of your group of friends read anything about the pharmocology of MDMA ? If they say yes, they should read it again. And so should you.
Every good occasion is better with MDMA, but that doesn't mean you should always take it. I rolled on new years eve and on 11/01 and 19/01 I'm going to see Kraftwerk. Tripping on low dose tryptamines, but I won't touch monoamine releasers for the next 3months.

Be safe.
 
My god man. Who takes 1.5 grams in one night? Total waste. Half a gram is a really heavy dose for me and i'm usually flying on a quarter. Slow the fuck down, you don't need to be dropping so much. Also your post is horribly written and I'm not even sure what you're asking.
 
How much do you weigh/ how tall are you? You're doing a lot of fucking MDMA mate so I would question the quality of the gear you've got. You shouldn't need grams of the shit just to "get there".

You should crush your crystals to aid absorbtion like the above poster said.

I believe also the first initial doses determine "how high" you will get. It's not an absolute rule, I've repeaked in the early morning of a rave after taking more.

Check the Six Simple Rules thread mate, will help you with getting proper dosage. You're caning it too hard.
 
Ya im 5'10 at 185 pounds. From thinking about all times I rolled I can now admit I have def been dosing wrong. 1.5 grams i not alot at all when u spread it evenly over 6 hours. Especially since the first 1.5 grams from first night were big rocks that i let dissolve under my tounge over like 15min dosing for a .2-.3 for whole rock to dissolve. Dimminishing returns I guess apply, the only molly I am really doing is in first hour of dosing and all the other molly just going to waste. So even 2nd night I did like .7-.8 within first hour of first dose and rest was throughout night so I think thats where I am faulting.
 
There are other drugs similiar to mdma, but if they work in a similiar way I don't think there's much to gain by switching up.
When the well is dry, the well is dry and you have to wait for your head to replenish that feelgood stuff.
There's no use putting the pedal to the floor when you're running on fumes, it's like sandpaper on your soul
 
Ya im 5'10 at 185 pounds. From thinking about all times I rolled I can now admit I have def been dosing wrong. 1.5 grams i not alot at all when u spread it evenly over 6 hours. Especially since the first 1.5 grams from first night were big rocks that i let dissolve under my tounge over like 15min dosing for a .2-.3 for whole rock to dissolve. Dimminishing returns I guess apply, the only molly I am really doing is in first hour of dosing and all the other molly just going to waste. So even 2nd night I did like .7-.8 within first hour of first dose and rest was throughout night so I think thats where I am faulting.

No dude, 1.5 grams is an absolute fuckload of MDMA to be taking over six hours. I'm talking ridiculous amounts. I'm not trying to act superior or make you feel stupid, the fact is that you're doing insane amounts of MD compared to anyone I know. A good dose for my friends is less than a fifth of what you've been taking. Calm it down a bit or watch as it stops being fun any more.

Are you absolutely sure you're getting good stuff? For me there's just no point taking any more than half a gram at the absolute most in a short space of time as I'm pretty much as fucked as I can possibly get after that.
 
No i agree 1.5 grams is probley shit ton if dosing correctly what I meant is not much affect wise much like what you said .5 in short period is the most fucked up your gonna get. Just saying not that much in regards to people being like omfg ur gonna die how can you function, if 1.5 is spread out over 6 hours as you said only first .5 is really doing anything I am literally throwing away the other gram very angry the amount of molly ive wasted not doing it correctly
 
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