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amanita phalloides (Death Caps)

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hi,
i'm looking for proper dosage of amanita phalloides, i really want to trip on this new years eve. i just ate 2 phalloides 5 mins ago but a guy told me you need to eat 5 to really trip balls, is that true? i'm scared to take 5 of them, it could be very poisonous and deadly.
any shroom expert that can guide me on this? thanks
 
i'm starting having a huge stomach pain and my heart starts beating very fast, i'm going right into the trip, i'm having persistent vision. i guess this was damn enough it's really rising fast. i guess i have my answer
 
I greatly hope you are mistaken on the identity, or you will need medical attention asap. Amanita Phalloides is one of the most poisonous mushrooms around, deadly in small doses even. I hope you are miswording or misidentifying, these aren't even psychedelic just deadly from my understanding.
 
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I greatly hope you are mistaken on the identity, or you will need medical attention asap. Amanita Phalloides is one of the most poisonous mushrooms around, deadly in small doses even. I hope you are miswording or misidentifying, these aren't even psychedelic just deadly from my understanding.
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i know its not psychedelic, it's a deliriant its the moderator who put it in there, whaddya mean mistaken on teh identity? i got them from a guy who knows what he sells. theyre deadly if you overdose but i know people who already did them with no problems
but honestly i'm quite scared as to symptoms, it's starting beating hard, is thisnormal?
 
Amanita Muscaria is safe to consume dried and is a common disassociative type psychedelic mushroom.
Is your mushroom red with white dots on the cap? I've never heard of tripping on phalloides honestly Ever, they are common in mushroom identification books as a deadly poisonous red flag mushroom. Pantherinas I've heard of being safe to easy but I'm not positive... Muscaria is the exception being a healing teacher plant amidst various deadly poisonous brother species in the genus Amanita. Don't mean to scare you but this sounds fucking insane to me and I am pretty open to consuming various plants, double check if phakloides is indeed what you were sold/given.
 
i am having spasms and hallucinations, i see people not here, my heart is going berserk, is this normal, am i doing a bad trip or is it acute toxicity please help!!
 
no, it's not amanita muscaria, it's phalloides the white ones with a greenish cap. i read stuff on internet saying you can trip on it, and a guy i know tripped hard on it. i am 100 percent sure its phalloides, i'm looking at pictures on google it's the one i was given
 
is there antidote to that shit it's going too insane for me i can't hold that!! i'm not prepared
 
not much help here, seek medical assistance dude.
quick google search and these are called "death caps" and the leading cause in mushroom deaths.
 
If you ate phalloides you should probably vomit them asap and possibly go to the hospital even. I'm no expert but man that shit is seriously no joke, I know that.
 
Who else tripped on them? ! Was it recently? The poisoning slowly kills the liver through days even I believe

This dealer is selling deadly fungus or somebody is mistaken
 
i tried to find a trip report or anyone saying they got high on these, nada.
whoever sold you those is a dick.
 
vomit them? how do i do that, tell me before i get a seizure or something, can you believe it my heart is beting at 162bpm!!!!
i regret that, i need an antidote know, what can i try against toxicity???? i am confused, i can't go to hospital i have no insurance
 
i am going to walmart buy acetylcysteine and milk thistle, studies say it can cure the problem, i hope i can make it
 
Fingers in throat to gag man. The hospital will treat you regardless of insurance

Maybe they're misIDed though if others have survived fine. True phalloides are the legendary death cap and require medical attention to insure survival. Says on wikipedia half a cap is enough to kill fresh
 
Milk thistle definitely for everyone whose eaten these. It takes days to die and symptoms fade at one point, they need treatment of some kind as well...if thistle is your choice of action get a bunch and consume it Now!


Death caps have been reported to taste pleasant. [31][62] This, coupled with the delay in the appearance of symptoms—during which time internal organs are being severely, sometimes irreparably, damaged—makes it particularly dangerous. Initially, symptoms are gastrointestinal in nature and include colicky abdominal pain, with watery diarrhea and vomiting, which may lead to dehydration, and, in severe cases, hypotension, tachycardia, hypoglycemia, and acid–base disturbances. [63][64] These first symptoms resolve two to three days after the ingestion. A more serious deterioration signifying liver involvement may then occur—jaundice, diarrhea, delirium, seizures, and coma due to fulminant hepatic failure and attendant hepatic encephalopathy caused by the accumulation of normally liver-removed substance in the blood. [11] Renal failure (either secondary to severe hepatitis [61][65] or caused by direct toxic renal damage [57] ) and coagulopathy may appear during this stage. Life-threatening complications include increased intracranial pressure, intracranial hemorrhage, pancreatitis, acute renal failure, and cardiac arrest. [63][64] Death generally occurs six to sixteen days after the poisoning. [66] – wikipedia entry
 
Taken from http://www.herbaldb.com/milk-thistle/the-use-of-milk-thistle-for-mushroom-poisoning-treatment/

Taking milk thistle for mushroom poisoning, particularly Amanita phalloides, can dramatically reduce the mortality rate, which normally ranges from 30 to 50%, to a mere 10 to 13%. Silymarin aids both human and animal livers in preventing and fixing the damage caused by the hepatoxic effect of phalloidin and alpha-amanitin. It counteracts the attack by obstructing membrane binding sites and by supporting regeneration of liver cells. Results may vary upon the period of ingestion and the treatment as well as the amount of liver damage.


Back to my thoughts...

I would take far more than is recommended on the bottle of milk thistle, you won't be hurt by a strong dose of straight herb material and I imagine the amount required to save the liver from amanitoxins would be more than a bottle of dietary supplement thistle would list as the recommended dosage.

If you're not going to the hospital stay dosed on thistle and seek fresh herb material from any mystic new age type store or any health food place. its a common herb and I guarantee dried out crap in a capsule (as I imagine you'll obtain from a local mart) is significantly less active and nutritional than fresh material.
 
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