Indonesia - Nearly 33,000 People are Drug Suspects

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Indonesia - Nearly 33,000 People are Drug Suspects

Sunday, 23 December, 2012 | 01:55 WIB

TEMPO Interactive, Jakarta:Statistics from the National Police criminal detectives division’s anti-drug directorate show there have been 26,561 drug trafficking cases in Indonesia this year.

Anti-drug director Brig. Gen. Arman Depari said that out of 26,561 cases, 32,892 people were arrested and declared suspects. “The arrests were conducted through cooperation involving sector police and the National Police,” said Arman during a press conference at the Anti-Drug Directorate hall on Thursday, December 20.

Arman also said that international drug cartels that had been foiled included citizens of Malaysia and Iran. Five suspects died during the arrests “Three Iranian, a Malaysian and an Indonesian,” said the director.

The amount of confiscated drugs from 32,892 suspects was 21.5 tons of dried cannabis, 34.5 kilograms of heroin, 7.6 kilograms of hashish, 5.8 kilograms of cocaine, 2.8 million ecstasy pills and 1.9 tons of methamphetamine.

In addition, psychotropic drugs seized included 1.8 million tables of G-listed drugs, 13.4 kilograms of ketamine, 479,000 tablets of benzodiazepine and 421,000 tablets of barbiturates.

AFRILIA SURYANIS

http://www.tempointeractive.com/hg/nasional/2012/12/23/brk,20121223-449944,uk.html
 
Increase penalties. Anything over 10 grams should be enough for the death penalty. People will eventually get the message to stop doing drugs.
 
Surely not! Because people certainly should be executed for putting a chemical in their own body. LOL
 
Portillo said:
Increase penalties. Anything over 10 grams should be enough for the death penalty. People will eventually get the message to stop doing drugs.
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That would mean that 20-30 ml of GHB(500mg/ml) (Basically a bottle of liquor) means a life sentence. Not exactly fair for people who can't afford the monopolized prescription form and need it for their insomnia/narcolepsy issues.
 
Yes joking. Because apparently in Thailand, anything over 100 grams makes you eligible for the death penalty.
 
They are actually considering banning alcohol altogether in Indonesia I read recently, and alot of tourist places are spewing about it, if that happens then the tourist industry might take a huge dive there.

In relation to illegal drugs there, they already have very stiff penalties, like the guy who got 4 yrs jail for under 4 grams of hash recently and many other stories, the stiff penalties and even death are obviously no deterrent tho to some people, with many people on death row there, including some Aussies who were part of the infamous Bali 9 who got caught with all that heroin strapped to their bodies as they were about to head over to Aus. In that story, I think one of the Bali 9's parents or dad actually informed on them and was making a deal about letting them leave Indo with it and get caught in Aus with it so as not to get nearly as harsh a sentence and it all went haywire as the Aus feds who he ended up talking to told the Indos who ended up busting them before they left the place, and they got busted with their laws, not ours.

But some people will argue that if the drugs laws are softened or lifted that it will cause even more drugs to hit their streets and kill their kids etc. I dont know what the answer is.
 
poledriver said:
But some people will argue that if the drugs laws are softened or lifted that it will cause even more drugs to hit their streets and kill their kids etc. I dont know what the answer is.
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I think the answer is to arrest the drug lords and cartels, not the drug mules and small possession offenders. If you get caught in Thailand/Indonesia with drugs, you must tell the police where you got it from. If the cops can get a bigger player in the drug trade than you, you get sent home. I guarantee you that in Thailand, the majority of drug lords get off free because they bribe the police and judges.

Does overcrowding prisons with non-violent marijuana smokers really do anything to impact the drug trade?
 
Portillo said:
I think the answer is to arrest the drug lords and cartels, not the drug mules and small possession offenders. If you get caught in Thailand/Indonesia with drugs, you must tell the police where you got it from. If the cops can get a bigger player in the drug trade than you, you get sent home. I guarantee you that in Thailand, the majority of drug lords get off free because they bribe the police and judges.

Does overcrowding prisons with non-violent marijuana smokers really do anything to impact the drug trade?
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I wouldn't wish the decision of ratting out a high level drug distributor to life in prison to my worst enemy. That is like playing Russian roulette with your entire family.

Cutting off the head of a cartel does not destroy the business. The leader is simply replaced by another member of the family/business. Even so, a drug lord is probably the last to fall to the embarrassment of the law. Cartels are frighteningly powerful and attempting to "disassemble" them is playing a game with no rules.
 
Renz Envy said:
I wouldn't wish the decision of ratting out a high level drug distributor to life in prison to my worst enemy. That is like playing Russian roulette with your entire family.

Cutting off the head of a cartel does not destroy the business. The leader is simply replaced by another member of the family/business. Even so, a drug lord is probably the last to fall to the embarrassment of the law. Cartels are frighteningly powerful and attempting to "disassemble" them is playing a game with no rules.
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I agree. But I just don't see the point of sending drug mules and small time possession offenders to prison. I bet that the harsh sentences of Thailand and Indonesia have had no impact on the supply or demand of drugs.
 
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