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Heres a question......

all i know is when i go out, id like to have some molly or atleast 1 if not 2 beans on me....the nightlife just isnt the same without mdma in your system. everything is all so much better. id rather wig out than drink anytime
 
Think too many americans are all about tryna get the most out of MDMA thinking too much about it! If im going out to club = taking pills with me, so it depends how many times im goin out really not the other way round regulating it to how many "mdma experiences" that I want, USA needs some good regular club nights and less shitty EDM commerical events.

If I do it every 3 weeks or so its still the same really, and im feeling fine 2-3 days after a good session
 
scrapguy420 said:
What is going to happen if MDMA futuristically stops being produced because of research chemicals are more demanded
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Look at it like old money or yu gi ho cards, somewhere out there there is someone whose interested always.
The manufacturer makes a pill for 10 cents~dollar, almost nothing. We get it for, say, 10-30? It has huge value for the illegal trade business so as long as people want a pill and as long as there are dealers, my guess is it won't stop being available.
If it did though, what will happen is one guy will order those research chamiecals, the other guy will get hustled and wont know the difference, and another guy will swallow 5 prozacs, so what's to say you won't read on the paper that some other dude was caught making good old MDMA?
 
Like being said, not going to happen in your lifetime so I wouldnt worry, isnt it already pratically like that in the states anyway? :sus:

There are many ways of making it, its also one the most favoured drugs for a reason
 
Not gonna happen.

MDMA's just too popular and even if the entire world's supply of safrole dried up tomorrow there are other ways to get to MDP2P.

RC's just ain't the same.
 
There will always be a way to synth MDMA, always. And there will always be demand for it ;)

But an RC close to MDMA... non-neurotoxic drug thats better than MDMA if only
 
mattnotrik said:
Think too many americans are all about tryna get the most out of MDMA thinking too much about it! If im going out to club = taking pills with me, so it depends how many times im goin out really not the other way round regulating it to how many "mdma experiences" that I want, USA needs some good regular club nights and less shitty EDM commerical events.

If I do it every 3 weeks or so its still the same really, and im feeling fine 2-3 days after a good session
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I'm studying biochemistry and i can tell you for a fact that you are not giving your seratonin receptors enough time to recover, you're not doing it every weekend so it won't hit you fast but i can guarantee if you keep going the way you are you will feel "some" negatives and you will definitely diminish the intensity of your rolls. Seratonin isn't like piss- it's a neurotransmitter that isn't supposed to be spurted into a synapse every 3 weeks. The molecule seratonin it's self is rather large and can't just be transported back accross the membrane of the synaptic knob like smaller molecules- each and every seratonin molecule has to find it's way back to a specific transporter protein before it can be taken back up, and although i can't tell you how long that will take, (everyones brain chemistry is different) i can tell you that it takes longer then a few weeks.

I'm not tryna bitch you out man i'm just trying to keep your MD rolls fun and your comedowns chill. Peace.
 
roady05 said:
, and although i can't tell you how long that will take, (everyones brain chemistry is different) i can tell you that it takes longer then a few weeks.
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I never said every weekend, my post said every few weeks like once a month or 3-4 weeks as my ukraninan friend said.

"Well first of all, I think you're taking an incorrect approach to the idea of seratonin regeneration or whatever. While it's a pretty viable theory, I think the reason most people recommend to take at least a month break between rolls is that this kind of schedule helps you avoid the negative side effects of MDMA use. No one really conducted detailed experiments to evaluate the exact correlation between seratonin levels, frequency of MDMA use and negative side effects of MDMA use. Do you see what I am getting at?

To answer you initial question. The reason that seratonin takes a relatively long amount to regenerate is that it takes several stages for your body to convert basic nutritional building blocks into seratonin. So you body has to do something like this:

Basic nutritional block > Substance A > ... > Substance X > 5HTP > Seratonin

The whole idea behind postloading on 5HTP is that it allows your body to skip all the other conversions except for the last one. So in theory this should allow your body to more quickly make new seratonin to reduce your seratonin deficiency.

The normal conversation process from nutritional building blocks to seratonin just takes something like 4 weeks. Not much else to say. I would also say that food as such probably doesn't have too big of an impact on the whole seratonin regeneration process. "
 
avcpl said:
I have stocked up and have no problem abstaining. The reason being not because I don't love it but because I DO love it. I don't want to spoil something so great by doing it too often. In fact you couldn't PAY me to take it before a three month break! If you think of it that way maybe it will help. Good luck!
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You have good self discipline, congrats. I'd say that you could realistically do it once every 2 months...but if you only want to do it once every 3 months I'm not going to argue with you. Either way, good job doing your research BEFORE the problems happen rather than after they happen like most people do. You are DEFINITELY right about not wanting to do it often at all
 
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