NZ - Legal high firm pushes 'Crack' in Auckland's dairies.

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The packaging for Crack does not list its ingredients or the distributor's details.

A new synthetic drug called Crack is being sold at Auckland dairies - with one outlet even offering to sell glass pipes to people who buy the white powder.

The product has been condemned as irresponsible by the Drug Foundation, illicit drug users and a pioneer of the legal high industry.

Crack is sold under the street name shared by the illegal drugs crack cocaine and methamphetamine, and comes in a clear plastic bag in a cardboard packet featuring an image of a glass pipe.

The packaging encourages users to snort or smoke the white powder - the same methods used to consume P or cocaine - but does not list its ingredients or the contact details of its manufacturer or distributor.

APNZ visited all the legal high stockists on Auckland's Karangahape Rd.

Two sold Crack - Walia Superette, where it was openly displayed behind the counter, and tobacco shop Shosha, where it was concealed in a cupboard next to the cigarettes. It retailed at both for $75 for 200mgs.

The seller at Walia Superette said Crack did not come with a pipe, but he offered to sell a glass pipe for $20. He did not ask for any identification.

When asked, he said the substance was "completely safe".

NZ Drug Foundation executive director Ross Bell condemned the product as idiotic and irresponsible.

"The industry likes to claim that they are providing safe alternatives to illegal drugs, but their behaviour is no different from what we see in the criminal black market, where customers don't know what they're buying, they don't know what the product has been cut with."

It is understood at least one Auckland dairy was bullied into stocking Crack, but later pulled the product from its shelves.

Mr Bell said legal high industry sources had confirmed the bullying tactics, but none would reveal who was responsible for making and distributing Crack.

"The people behind Crack have a reputation in the industry as being pretty aggressive, and again it's not the behaviour you would expect of a industry that's trying to promote themselves as being responsible."

Mr Bell said even illicit drug users were outraged by the product - including a former methamphetamine user who told him he was "gobsmacked" at its brazenness.

"That reaction highlights for me that the industry has crossed the line by branding a product Crack and having drug paraphernalia on it. It's just one big piss-take because they know they can get away with this."

Mr Bell said the product highlighted the need for regulation of the industry.

People posting on tripme.co.nz - a local internet forum about drugs - were among those who condemned the product, with one saying it was "outrageous" and another slamming the marketing as "reckless".

Matt Bowden, a pioneer of the legal high industry in New Zealand, said encouraging people to smoke the product was irresponsible.

"I believe they should have gone the whole way and spelled the product name with a P," he said.

"When white powders have been sold to the public in the past it has encouraged more dangerous routes of administration."

Both the Ministry of Health and Associate Health Minister Peter Dunne, who is drafting legislation to clamp down on legal highs, were unaware of the product before APNZ made inquiries.

Mr Dunne said its marketing came as no surprise.

"It pretty well sums up this shabby industry and irresponsible kind of people it contains. It is somewhat ironic that they will go to the trouble of using these images but will not list the ingredients of their products."

Mr Dunne said next year's law change to regulate the legal high industry could not come soon enough.

"They will have to prove their products are safe before they sell them, and no doubt this will put the vast majority of these low-life types out of business."

Crack's packaging does not list its ingredients, but gives the chemical registry number for phenethylamine - a compound which is structurally related to psychoactive drugs.

Without chemical testing, it is impossible to tell what it actually contains.

National Poisons Centre toxicologist Dr Leo Schep said phenethylamine was a naturally occurring compound which acted as a neurotransmitter in the brain, was present in chocolate, and purported to have benefits associated with mood and weight loss.

"However, when ingested it is rapidly metabolised and rendered inactive, preventing significant concentrations in the brain."

Dr Schep said one un-cited report suggested three males ingested an unknown amount of phenethylamine, resulting in increased heart rate, anxiety, nausea and vomiting.

A Ministry of Health spokesman said phenethylamine was not controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act.

"However the ministry has no details on this product and we do not know what it contains. As regards packaging, the use of the image, along with a non-listing of ingredients, could be viewed as irresponsible."

Is this type of product appropriate to be sold in Auckland dairies?

http://www.theaucklander.co.nz/news/legal-high-firm-pushes-crack-aucklands-dairies/1655777/
 
seriously. "recreational supplement", it says... true enough semantically i guess, tho if such drugs are one's idea of recreation there's a problem lol (am operating under an assumption it is subjectively similar to proper 'crack')

part of me really wants to see such vendors push the envelope wayyyy further, i mean think of what budweiser commercials do for alcohol (or, what cigarette ads were able to do several decades ago). with products as strong as crack, yes they sell themselves, but advertising can *really* push the envelope. Why do I say i want to see that? Because they push the issue to the forefront, so it can be dealt with appropriately, as i think the global community is not acting close to properly in this regard. Big Tobacco pushed their product to the forefront decades ago, and now we have a MUCH better understanding of cigarettes and their dangers- people can learn largely objective information and choose for themselves, with some fair government regulation.
In much hte same way, i would like to see the same for all drugs. Nowadays, if you smoke cigarettes, it's extremely unlikely you were 'tricked' into it or that you were wholly ignorant of what they were when you began and continued your usage, and that is because of past exploits that forced the issue to be addressed by society and, not surprisingly, society is better off for it (look at the data on smoking cigarettes if you want proof)
 
seriously. "recreational supplement", it says... true enough semantically i guess, tho if such drugs are one's idea of recreation there's a problem lol (am operating under an assumption it is subjectively similar to proper 'crack')

part of me really wants to see such vendors push the envelope wayyyy further, i mean think of what budweiser commercials do for alcohol (or, what cigarette ads were able to do several decades ago). with products as strong as crack, yes they sell themselves, but advertising can *really* push the envelope. Why do I say i want to see that? Because they push the issue to the forefront, so it can be dealt with appropriately, as i think the global community is not acting close to properly in this regard. Big Tobacco pushed their product to the forefront decades ago, and now we have a MUCH better understanding of cigarettes and their dangers- people can learn largely objective information and choose for themselves, with some fair government regulation.
In much hte same way, i would like to see the same for all drugs. Nowadays, if you smoke cigarettes, it's extremely unlikely you were 'tricked' into it or that you were wholly ignorant of what they were when you began and continued your usage, and that is because of past exploits that forced the issue to be addressed by society and, not surprisingly, society is better off for it (look at the data on smoking cigarettes if you want proof)

couldnt agree with you more, those branded salts and stuff are real shit but maybe they are the step forward to proper regulation, information and freedom of choice
 
I guess a dairy must be something different over there as in the UK a 'dairy' is somewhere where milk is made and processed.
 
i feel sorry for anyone who buys "crack", whether it's free/based cocaine, or some RC ecgonine someone just came to market with that can be passed off as 'crack', much as spice is passed off for cannabinoids.
I don't think the 'mystery chemical' component, nor the pricing, are what make the buyers dumb. The latter is par for course in NZ where it is several hundred/gram for coca products, and the former is irrelevant to most users so long as they know the product is in line, subjectively, with what they're looking for it to do (and that is achieved, IF it's true, after the 1st person buys it, word of mouth spreads very fast particularly in areas like NZ where there are not burgeoning coca markets)

[i am completely unaware of what is in this product, and while it absolutely may just be some pv or amp-type RC, there is a very real chance (from a chemistry standpoint) that the RC market is now seeing some of the ecgonine products that've been "clandestine/hobbyist" products and dreams for a long time. Such products taking advantage of the RC scene to launch themselves have the potency to realllly make the price/mg quoted above CHEAP compared to anything you've known, much as fentanyl analogues are able to do for opes. Which, to beat this dead and rotting horse, just highlights how both chemistry and logistics are soo strongly able to outpace any LE movement that these things need to be approached differently asap]
 
i feel sorry for anyone who buys "crack", whether it's free/based cocaine

Watch yourself, heretic. Freebase cocaine is the 2nd most pleasurable experience I know of.

#1 is pure MDMA btw.

Incidentally, why do we append the "free"? The chemical notion of a base is descriptive enough. Why did we add "free"?
 
it's the most "pleasurable" thing i've ever felt in my life, but not in a subjectively "good" way, if that makes a shred of sense. doesn't even feel human, and total ego loss.. it makes for a very intensely pleasurable day or two*, but not in a way that makes me want to repeat it (excepting the couple hrs after usage). Really think it as a useless drug that is completely overshadowed by wayyy better and safer things (mdma is my fav solo chemical, and fav "experience" is still an mdxx-based one)
(*i can only imagine how shitty it is for "general users"...the times i'd done it were when with a very successful guy who'd do once in a while, so it was 'open bar' style. I cannot fathom how terrible an experience it is if you're not able to load up as you desire, as the hit-ringing-fiend-hit cycle is what the shit seems all about to me, if there was limited quantity i imagine it woudl be a fucking TERRIBLE experience; even w/ unlmt'd quantity, and despite the ring/blast being soooo strong, there's really only like 1% of the time where you don't have an "unsatisfied" feeling. Whole point imo is playing back/forth w/ that satisfied/fiending/satisfied feeling whicih, despite the rush/pleasure of the up, isn't a good experience overall)

and you kjnow the reason, it's for the lay folk who would interpret "cocaine" to mean, not "crack", but "cocaine hcl" ;]
 
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The seller at Walia Superette said Crack did not come with a pipe, but he offered to sell a glass pipe for $20. He did not ask for any identification.
20 bucks!! Da fuck burners are 6 bucks here and you'll get murdered for dropping it and breaking it here haha I can only imagine over there
 
shit like crack isn't too price dependent. $0.01 is too more than i would pay, but a basehead, especially mid-session, would pay with their testicles for a dub :/
price inelasticity FTL here, sadly.
 
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