Opioids Took too much oxycodone. Trying to find the right dose?

[96chanz]

So I've been off Oxycodone for a while now. It's been since July since I've done any opiate. (oxy, Morphine, Codiene, Hydro) and I was taking up to 50 mg at a dose. I started back on oxy about a week ago. the first night i took it I spilt a 15 mg Oxy I.R. in half and got a nice buzz, I was surprised. The next day that dose didn't really phase me so from then on I was taking 15 mg once a day for pain but for the high mostly. I'm not gonna lie. A few days ago I tried my old 50 MG dose I did with Oxys and Hydros and It was WAYYY too much. I started having panic attacks and it just wasn't right. the only thing I knew to get relief from me over taking it was eating so i just ate a whole bunch and was fine in a couple hours. I also take Xanax with it and I know that's not good to combine them with opiates and thats why I think I reacted that way. But I must take my Xanax for my anxiety and I need the oxy for my nerve pain and back pain. I was thinking of taking 25 MG of Oxy and 3 MG Of Xanax ( I have a very high tolerance to benzos I've been on them for over 9 months now ) Or does anyone else have a better dosing suggestion? I like to take the xanax and hour before i take the oxy and it seems to make the high alot better. more mellow and everything. I don't like snorting gives too much of a burst and then it's gone with in an hour or so. So does anyone have any dosage suggestions? thanks.

 

[macd610]

Sorry if I missed something, but didn't you say 15mg was working for you? If not, maybe try 20-25. The last thing I'd want to do is unnecessarily build up a tolerance. Again, let me know if I misread something
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[RobotRipping]

why would you want to bring your tolerance all the way back up to 50mg right away? take 15mg, if that doesn't work take 20mg, no one can know how you will react to it. I'd be seriously careful mixing benzos and opiates like that, so many people have died that way. That's usually why i have anxiety when i mix the two, even though you'd think it'd kill any anxiety. Most people will say if you're going to do it no matter what then take half the dose of each that you regularly would.

 

[CaptainSpock]

Agreed completely with Ripping. Absolutely no point in raising your tolerance immediately when 15 mg was working from the get go. As stated above, try 20mg, if that doesn't work, try 25, don't jump that high. And he is right, tho you would think your xanax and conjunction with oxycodone would help, but it most sincerely doesn't. If your usual dosage is 3mg a day try using 1mg-1.5mg. I used to find oxycodone in itself would completely eliminate the need for benzos at ALL, and would go from taking 3mg of klonopin a day to .5mg every 3 days when using oxy. Don't underestimate each substance, start of slow, and find what works best FOR YOU. Everyone is different chemically and it may take some time to find your sweet spot. You can always take more, not less!

 

[pbuilder]

So I've been off Oxycodone for a while now. It's been since July since I've done any opiate. (oxy, Morphine, Codiene, Hydro) and I was taking up to 50 mg at a dose. I started back on oxy about a week ago. the first night i took it I spilt a 15 mg Oxy I.R. in half and got a nice buzz, I was surprised. The next day that dose didn't really phase me so from then on I was taking 15 mg once a day for pain but for the high mostly. I'm not gonna lie. A few days ago I tried my old 50 MG dose I did with Oxys and Hydros and It was WAYYY too much. I started having panic attacks and it just wasn't right. the only thing I knew to get relief from me over taking it was eating so i just ate a whole bunch and was fine in a couple hours. I also take Xanax with it and I know that's not good to combine them with opiates and thats why I think I reacted that way. But I must take my Xanax for my anxiety and I need the oxy for my nerve pain and back pain. I was thinking of taking 25 MG of Oxy and 3 MG Of Xanax ( I have a very high tolerance to benzos I've been on them for over 9 months now ) Or does anyone else have a better dosing suggestion? I like to take the xanax and hour before i take the oxy and it seems to make the high alot better. more mellow and everything. I don't like snorting gives too much of a burst and then it's gone with in an hour or so. So does anyone have any dosage suggestions? thanks.

um... wouldn't the xanax have calmed the panic attack. I don't see how the xanax could have made it worse, unless you mean the 50mg oxy + xanax dose had you panicking because you were nodding super hard and scared to OD.

And yea, you were basically opiate naive again, so a 50mg dose of oxy when you were just taking 15mg and getting a good buzz is obviously never a good idea. It will likely just make you super nauseous, and since oxycodone is derived from the stimulant alkaloid Thebaine, it can also cause some anxiety/panic attacks.

The problem with opiates is their is a sweet spot, and when you find it, that sweet spot follows the motto "less is more". Because if you take to much, it actually decreases the euphoria and adds nasty side effects like extreme nausea, blacking out, head ache etc.

But the sweet spot always changes because every time you dose you really are slightly increasing your tolerance. Thus, the sweet spot changes, so you gotta dose carefully. 50mgs wasn't an INSANE dose, but it was definitely high for your current scenario.

 

[CaptainSpock]

Well, when using opiates for anxiety, it simply disguises it. Most begin using more, and with their increase in anxiety, their usual benzo dose will simply not be efficient. What will happen is you'll feel "good" for a while because of the opiate but its all disguising and hiding the anxiety by making you "feel good" Then before you know it, you take more and the road to addiction.

 

[96chanz]

I Understand what your saying about the Mixing the Two. But if I take oxycodone by it's self than I get Panic attacks (Chest Numbness and Tightnes, Heart racing, hyperventilating,) It's unbarable if I take it by it's self I'd rather just be in pain crying to be honest. It's wierd I don't think anyones experienced that. (I even get the anxiety with just taking 7.5 MG.) so idk I've told my doctor about it and he said to take the Xanax an hour before I take the Oxycodone and that should work, And it does but it's so bizarre it kinda worries me. But I know nothing wrong with me kuzz I've gotten ekg's, mri's, CAT scans, and I'm healthy beside the stroke I had on thanksgiving. I'm only 16 Btw. thanks for your adivice. I took 25 MG earlier and only 2 MG of Xanax and I have to admit it was pretty nice. Wasn't feeling any pain and also had and still had a very nice buzz I love nodding off. Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are the best opiates in my opinion just saying. And btw I've been on opiates (from Codiene to Morphine) Since I was 12 from a bullying insident at school. I ended up with a broken foot, Broken arm, And Fractured tailbone. and was perscribed Lortab 7.5 MG and it went on from there. the thing is I never have experienced Physical withdraws? only mental. So I've been on opiates from a very young age.

 

[96chanz]

um... wouldn't the xanax have calmed the panic attack. I don't see how the xanax could have made it worse, unless you mean the 50mg oxy + xanax dose had you panicking because you were nodding super hard and scared to OD.

And yea, you were basically opiate naive again, so a 50mg dose of oxy when you were just taking 15mg and getting a good buzz is obviously never a good idea. It will likely just make you super nauseous, and since oxycodone is derived from the stimulant alkaloid Thebaine, it can also cause some anxiety/panic attacks.

The problem with opiates is their is a sweet spot, and when you find it, that sweet spot follows the motto "less is more". Because if you take to much, it actually decreases the euphoria and adds nasty side effects like extreme nausea, blacking out, head ache etc.

But the sweet spot always changes because every time you dose you really are slightly increasing your tolerance. Thus, the sweet spot changes, so you gotta dose carefully. 50mgs wasn't an INSANE dose, but it was definitely high for your current scenario.

I know it was way too much Idk what I was thinking tbh. Thanks for your help and all the replys

 

[96chanz]

Agreed completely with Ripping. Absolutely no point in raising your tolerance immediately when 15 mg was working from the get go. As stated above, try 20mg, if that doesn't work, try 25, don't jump that high. And he is right, tho you would think your xanax and conjunction with oxycodone would help, but it most sincerely doesn't. If your usual dosage is 3mg a day try using 1mg-1.5mg. I used to find oxycodone in itself would completely eliminate the need for benzos at ALL, and would go from taking 3mg of klonopin a day to .5mg every 3 days when using oxy. Don't underestimate each substance, start of slow, and find what works best FOR YOU. Everyone is different chemically and it may take some time to find your sweet spot. You can always take more, not less!

I Understand what your saying about the Mixing the Two. But if I take oxycodone by it's self than I get Panic attacks (Chest Numbness and Tightnes, Heart racing, hyperventilating,) It's unbarable if I take it by it's self I'd rather just be in pain crying to be honest. It's wierd I don't think anyones experienced that. (I even get the anxiety with just taking 7.5 MG.) so idk I've told my doctor about it and he said to take the Xanax an hour before I take the Oxycodone and that should work, And it does but it's so bizarre it kinda worries me. But I know nothing wrong with me kuzz I've gotten ekg's, mri's, CAT scans, and I'm healthy beside the stroke I had on thanksgiving. I'm only 16 Btw. thanks for your adivice. I took 25 MG earlier and only 2 MG of Xanax and I have to admit it was pretty nice. Wasn't feeling any pain and also had and still had a very nice buzz I love nodding off. Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are the best opiates in my opinion just saying. And btw I've been on opiates (from Codiene to Morphine) Since I was 12 from a bullying insident at school. I ended up with a broken foot, Broken arm, And Fractured tailbone. and was perscribed Lortab 7.5 MG and it went on from there. the thing is I never have experienced Physical withdraws? only mental. So I've been on opiates from a very young age.

 

[pbuilder]

I Understand what your saying about the Mixing the Two. But if I take oxycodone by it's self than I get Panic attacks (Chest Numbness and Tightnes, Heart racing, hyperventilating,) It's unbarable if I take it by it's self I'd rather just be in pain crying to be honest. It's wierd I don't think anyones experienced that. (I even get the anxiety with just taking 7.5 MG.) so idk I've told my doctor about it and he said to take the Xanax an hour before I take the Oxycodone and that should work, And it does but it's so bizarre it kinda worries me. But I know nothing wrong with me kuzz I've gotten ekg's, mri's, CAT scans, and I'm healthy beside the stroke I had on thanksgiving. I'm only 16 Btw. thanks for your adivice. I took 25 MG earlier and only 2 MG of Xanax and I have to admit it was pretty nice. Wasn't feeling any pain and also had and still had a very nice buzz I love nodding off. Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are the best opiates in my opinion just saying. And btw I've been on opiates (from Codiene to Morphine) Since I was 12 from a bullying insident at school. I ended up with a broken foot, Broken arm, And Fractured tailbone. and was perscribed Lortab 7.5 MG and it went on from there. the thing is I never have experienced Physical withdraws? only mental. So I've been on opiates from a very young age.

I've found I also can get some panic attacks on anxiety from poppy tea. Which makes sense, as it has thebaine in it, which is what oxycodone is derived from anyways. I find a single benzo can help a lot.

 

[96chanz]

Well, when using opiates for anxiety, it simply disguises it. Most begin using more, and with their increase in anxiety, their usual benzo dose will simply not be efficient. What will happen is you'll feel "good" for a while because of the opiate but its all disguising and hiding the anxiety by making you "feel good" Then before you know it, you take more and the road to addiction.

I know all about addiction to Opiates man. I've been on them since I was 12 (anything from Stupid ass codiene to Morphine) The wierd thing is out of the 4 years of contuisly taking them I never got "physicall Dependent" to them Only Mentally. I got on opiates because kids at school had bullied me about my sexuality and Broke my Leg, Arm, And fractured my tailbone. The back in 2008 when it happened the doc prescribed me 90 Lortab 7.5/500s and I've been on opiates since then. I like Lortab and Oxy pretty equally tbh.

 

[CaptainSpock]

I found that when I was using, the lower dosages of oxycodone I was using compared to other opiates would give me anxiety, despite my comment above. (Lets say my "ideal" dosage was 60mg, if I were to take 15mg I would be in panic mode) I was assuming it was because I was anxious to get high or that my expectations were not met.

 

[96chanz]

I found that when I was using, the lower dosages of oxycodone I was using compared to other opiates would give me anxiety, despite my comment above. (Lets say my "ideal" dosage was 60mg, if I were to take 15mg I would be in panic mode) I was assuming it was because I was anxious to get high or that my expectations were not met.

I never really went into panic attacks when I took a too low of a dose. But I would Get really frustrated and mad at the world that I wasn't high enough or even high.

 

[CaptainSpock]

I never really went into panic attacks when I took a too low of a dose. But I would Get really frustrated and mad at the world that I wasn't high enough or even high.

Would get that too. Part of the experience of not living up to your expectations. There was nothing worse than being excited and looking forward to a nice day in bliss only to realize you mentally feel worse than before.

 

[96chanz]

Would get that too. Part of the experience of not living up to your expectations. There was nothing worse than being excited and looking forward to a nice day in bliss only to realize you mentally feel worse than before.

I was thinking about redosing at 25 MG again and 1 MG Of Xanax? or should I wait until tomorrow? I know the first dose of the day is better than the second so that's why I was I was wondering if it would even be worth or would I be disapointed?

(sorry typed it wrong the first time lol)

 

[CaptainSpock]

I was thinking about redosing at 25 MG again and 1 MG Of Xanax? or should I wait until tomorrow? I know the first dose of the day is better than the second so that's why I was I was wondering if it would even be worth or would I be disapointed?

(sorry typed it wrong the first time lol)

In my experience it's ALWAYS better to wait in that situation, if you can. Takes some willpower but I can GAURENTEE you will thank yourself in the morning.

If you're in panic mode currently then take the alprazolam and wait about 45 minutes. If that doesn't cut it go ahead but my opinion above stands.

PS: Feel free to PM me with any questions, tho I can't respond for another 1.5 hrs lol.

 

[Fire&Water]

I Understand what your saying about the Mixing the Two. But if I take oxycodone by it's self than I get Panic attacks (Chest Numbness and Tightnes, Heart racing, hyperventilating,) It's unbarable if I take it by it's self I'd rather just be in pain crying to be honest. It's wierd I don't think anyones experienced that. (I even get the anxiety with just taking 7.5 MG.) so idk I've told my doctor about it and he said to take the Xanax an hour before I take the Oxycodone and that should work, And it does but it's so bizarre it kinda worries me. But I know nothing wrong with me kuzz I've gotten ekg's, mri's, CAT scans, and I'm healthy beside the stroke I had on thanksgiving. I'm only 16 Btw. thanks for your adivice. I took 25 MG earlier and only 2 MG of Xanax and I have to admit it was pretty nice. Wasn't feeling any pain and also had and still had a very nice buzz I love nodding off. Oxycodone and Hydrocodone are the best opiates in my opinion just saying. And btw I've been on opiates (from Codiene to Morphine) Since I was 12 from a bullying insident at school. I ended up with a broken foot, Broken arm, And Fractured tailbone. and was perscribed Lortab 7.5 MG and it went on from there. the thing is I never have experienced Physical withdraws? only mental. So I've been on opiates from a very young age.

What was the cause of the stroke you had ? "at the age of 16"

 

[motherofearth]

Leave the Xanax out. Or the opiates. One or the other, man.

 

[Znegative]

I understand your situation to a degree OP. I am Also dependent on benzodiazepines (used to be alprazolam, though I switched to Clomazepam for tapering purposes) as well as opiates, and IME, I absolutely CANNOT feel the effects of Opiates, if I have not take my clonazepam within the last 36 hours (if I were still using alprazolam, it would be within the last 12-16 hours if I remember correctly). IME benzo withdrawal completely over-rides opiate withdrawal, and is in the end, much worse as it leaves you as an empty shell of the person you once were. I actually won't bother trying to use opiates when in benzo withdrawal because I know its just a waste.

However, IME, it doesn't really work vice versa.

However, the important thing is the you be very careful mixing these two drugs. They are both short acting, CNS depressants. As you know, combining them together greatly amplifies the effects of the other. Since you do (from the sounds of it) need to take both, I would try and cut down on one or the other, and to also try hard as hell not to chase an opiate high with the oxycodone (though believe me, I know if that were me, I'd have a real rough time as well).

Also, like others have said, there is no reason to try and raise your tolerance, EVER. Shit, I wish I could get high off of oxycodone PERIOD. It sounds like back when you we using opiates before, 50mg was your sweet spot, the 'ideal dose', which I get. However, you got to keep in mind that over time, with abstinence, your tolerance is going to drop significantly, and with it, your sweet spot.

I had stayed clean for nearly 9 months and change after kicking a 100mg/day methadone habit (with some IV heroin thrown on top as well). After 9 months without any narcotics, I came across a bottle of hydrocodone and took 15 mg, a dose so low I thought that it was impossible for it to create anything BUT therapeutic effects. However, I got hammered. Imagined what would have happened if I had gone and taken a 100mg of methadone or injected five bags of heroin...

Anyway, my point is, always start off slow when it's been a while since you used a certain substance. You can always take more, but you can't give back what you already took.

 

[blight12]

Interesting on the panic attacks on low dosage. Is this a common thing where anxiety is caused on low dose opaites and is this a sign of low dosage.
I am currently struggling with anxiety on H and im a new user newb.