Opioids Oxycodone Comparison

[THCified]

Hi Guys,

i've a lil' question about this one. I'm having experiences with various opioid substances like Kratom, DHC, Tramadol, AH-7921, Poppy pods, Tilidine, O-desmethyltramadol & Butyr-Fentanyl. I really do like Kratom, tbh this is the one i prefer most of all the listed ones.

My question: is there really that much of a difference between Oxy's and the opioids i listed above regarding it's effects? Thing is, i don't notice much of a difference between most of the ones i listed above except, of course, potency.

Well, AH-7921 is more sedating as Kratom for example, or Poppy pods more calming , warm and subtle as Tilidine, but are Oxy's really worth trying or isn't there much of a difference?

Thanks in advance

 

[Somberlain]

In my opinion, Tilidine and Oxycodon definitely have something in common. At least for me, i know some people who wouldn't agree with that. But for me, both substances are the type of opioid that isn't so much sedating/calming - there's something like a smooth stimulation going on. If you take higher doses of oxy, that changes and it gets more sedating with more of a body rush. But in low-normal doses i find it shares some properties with Tilidine.

My advice would be: If you have a tolerance that still allows you to get a decent rush out of tilidine -> forget about oxy. I would prefer the heavenly tilidine rush over oxy every time, but sadly, i can only take tilidine for a week or so and then i have to take a break from opioids for a long time until it feels nice again.

But my advice is propably worthless as it's just based on my love for tilidine. For me, tilidine is the queen of all opioids i know. But your tolerance needs to be pretty non-existent to get this insane euphoria, which sucks big time and is the only reason why i switched to other/stronger opioids. But i know for a fact that i'm not alone with the opinion, that tilidin can be better than heroin, hydromorphon, etc when given to a opioid-naive person.

edit: I want to add that im my case, oxycodone and tilidine share a property that makes them pretty special to me: I can take them and meet with people, go to university, etc. and nobody ever notices that i'm high (apart from a few people who have an eye for the size of my pupils and recognize it sometimes). Apparently i don't seem any different on them even if i'm pretty high, which i think is a great thing.

edit 2: I think as long as you are able to have fun with the opioids you listed, you shouldn't mess around with oxy and stuff like that. Maybe oxy would give you a much more intense experience, but it could easily ruin some of the beautiful low-potency-opioids for you. So i think the next step up to the more potent stuff should only be done if you aren't satisfied with what you have anymore.

 

[Znegative]

It's too bad, because of the opiates/opioids that you listed, the only one I have tried (strangely) is tramadol, DHC isn't even available in the states I believe.

Just to give you an idea of oxycodone's effects in comparison to Poppy Tea (never tried PPT, but I've used morphine, codeine and heroin, which all have generally similar effects), Oxycodone is a Thebaine derived opiate, which gives it a more stimulating feeling than morphine and codeine. It also has a 'cleaner' feel to it, which some will prefer, though I always liked the dirty euphoria of good heroin. All in all, I would try and avoid it (along with the Butyr-Fentanyl).. As of now you have a low opiate tolerance, and oxycodone is much stronger than most of the opiates you listed, if you enjoy Kratom, stick to that.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

It's too bad, because of the opiates/opioids that you listed, the only one I have tried (strangely) is tramadol, DHC isn't even available in the states I believe.

Just to give you an idea of oxycodone's effects in comparison to Poppy Tea (never tried PPT, but I've used morphine, codeine and heroin, which all have generally similar effects), Oxycodone is a Thebaine derived opiate, which gives it a more stimulating feeling than morphine and codeine. It also has a 'cleaner' feel to it, which some will prefer, though I always liked the dirty euphoria of good heroin. All in all, I would try and avoid it (along with the Butyr-Fentanyl).. As of now you have a low opiate tolerance, and oxycodone is much stronger than most of the opiates you listed, if you enjoy Kratom, stick to that.

^^

This.

 

[EEhouseEE]

Oxycodone is consaidered one of the most stimulating ones of all opiates ( of course not stimulating comapred to real stimulants) but yeah even in my opinion out of the other opiates oxycodone gives the most energy.

 

[THCified]

Well, i think i don't bother thinking about trying them anymore then.

My tolerance is relatively low, of course depending on the substance, but atm i can get a decent buzz from as little as 3gs of Kratom, which is almost as low as my dosage level when i first tried it

As said above, i don't really notice that much of a difference between all of those opioids i listed (except minor differences or tramadols subtle SSRI effects), which means i can get an almost identical nod/stimulation from a high/low dose of kratom as with DHC, for example.

Don't wanna let my tolerance raise up to high levels for several reasons. First of all, because i fear dependency, second would be that i noticed if taken too often, opioids loose their magic, even with higher doses.

Thanks for your replies

 

[macd610]

Well, i think i don't bother thinking about trying them anymore then.

My tolerance is relatively low, of course depending on the substance, but atm i can get a decent buzz from as little as 3gs of Kratom, which is almost as low as my dosage level when i first tried it

As said above, i don't really notice that much of a difference between all of those opioids i listed (except minor differences or tramadols subtle SSRI effects), which means i can get an almost identical nod/stimulation from a high/low dose of kratom as with DHC, for example.

Don't wanna let my tolerance raise up to high levels for several reasons. First of all, because i fear dependency, second would be that i noticed if taken too often, opioids loose their magic, even with higher doses.

Thanks for your replies

Sounds like you have made a good decision. The only thing that you may gain by trying it is an addiction. I have been on lots of different opiates, but not many that you listed ....just the tramadol and it never did anything for me.
I also agree that oxycodone is very stimulating, especially compared to other opiates... but not in a hyper, stimulant type of way.
Either way, you have made a smart choice

 

[THCified]

I hope so 8(

I really do love opiates. I remember when i tried Kratom for the first few times and hated it, it just made me angry and agitated and if dosed too high, i had a terrible nod. I dunno exactly how and when, but it suddenly changed somehow and it became more and more interesting and nice.

It's a bit like with the weed, where the first few times you're just way too blazed to enjoy it and then...booom...it's heavenly!

I know that this feeling, this desire that i'll probably miss something if i don't try things like oxy- and hydrocodone, morphine and all that jizz, will never really subside, but i think you're damn right macd610, the only thing i may gain is addiction - and that's surely nothing i regret to miss.

 

[Diloadid]

Butyr-Fentanyl

First and foremost, Oxycodone as stated above is a thebaine derivative. Some people find it to be stimulating, I myself particularly do not. In comparison to the list that you have above, I would personally say that, oxycodone is probably most comparable to tramadol/o-desmethyltramadol & dihydrocodeine. Which is to say that said substances aren't anything alike, just the closest from your list in characteristics.

When I was using painkillers/heroin I was just always chasing a quality nod. For me personally oxycodone was just too expensive in comparison to the effects that it offered, with any ROA. For people that are CPP it might help them greatly, because it is a nice analgesic, but for the junkie looking to catch a quick nod it isn't really that great (see last point).

I noticed you have tried a fentanyl analog? I tried googling Butyr-fentanyl and didn't come up with much of anything. Just gonna go out on a limb and say that this is probably the strongest narcotic painkiller you have listed, hell it is the probably the strongest on your list. Be careful with fent. analogues, your tolerance will sky rocket with their use, and also more than one-good junkie has died from an inaccurate dose of fentanyl. In short, fent ain't nothing to fuck with.

 

[Jabberwocky]

i think oxy is a lot different to most of the opiates you have mentioned. i could compare it to DHC in a sense - DHC isn't as "noddy" as most opiates although it does still produce a nod effect. It is a bit stimulating i have found and makes me more open in social situations and it's easier to function when i take dhc recreationally.

oxy is a whole different kettle of fish though. i honestly don't suggest anyone try it if they haven't as you're about to dance with the devil. it is truly a unique opiate in the sense that it is extremely euphoric, speedy (to a degree) and doesn't make you nod. thats why i find it so addictive and fantastic. i can pop some oxy in any situation in front of me and i will enjoy it - it adapts to your environment.

seriously its not worth trying. all you'll do is end up with a very expensive addiction which isn't worth the pain or heartbreak for those around you and yourself. i wish i had never tried it myself, although i love it, it has destroyed my life for the time being. and oh my is it a fucking bitch to come off of.

 

[Toz]

Wow that's a list of some obscure opiates OP, the only ones I've tried from the list are Kratom and Tramadol.

I think oxycontin is extremely overrated and where I live, also overpriced. I prefer morphine/heroin/ketobemidone and even methadone rather than oxycontin. I find the oxycontin high to be over extremely quickly and the rush when used intravenously to be quite underwhelming compared to the rest of the usual opiates of abuse.

 

[Diloadid]

oxy is a whole different kettle of fish though. i honestly don't suggest anyone try it if they haven't as you're about to dance with the devil. it is truly a unique opiate in the sense that it is extremely euphoric, speedy (to a degree) and doesn't make you nod. thats why i find it so addictive and fantastic. i can pop some oxy in any situation in front of me and i will enjoy it - it adapts to your environment.

seriously its not worth trying. all you'll do is end up with a very expensive addiction which isn't worth the pain or heartbreak for those around you and yourself. i wish i had never tried it myself, although i love it, it has destroyed my life for the time being. and oh my is it a fucking bitch to come off of.

Whether or not it is worth trying is debatable, OP just wanted some comparisons. From what I gather, outside of his fent experience, the OP is just a recreational user (because I certainly could not keep up with all the random painkillers I have tried). Oxycodone is pretty much the goto painkiller for this generation, so its availability is pretty high. I'm not gonna discourage or appraise oxycodone use for recreational purposes, but it does have its place.

I think the effects of oxycodone are subjective, and as with every other drug, are going to differ between person to person. When I take painkillers I don't want stimulation, so when I would use oxy I went at it with the mindset 'I'm gonna nod'. For someone that didn't have a tolerance to opiates/opioids in general I 'could' see how it might be vaguely stimulating (in the sense that it is borderline too expensive to catch a quality nod therefore becoming a social lubricant).

 

[THCified]

Butyr-Fentanyl isn't as strong as you may think and i was very carefully when using it (which wasn't often). I noticed the massive impact on my tolerance and totally ceased taking it for the moment, but i did various low-mg-dosage-level substances in the past without problems. I'm a careful person

As said, i may ever think i miss something here, but fuck it, i'll also miss heroin and a shitload of other nice things, but you can't do everything...

...and it seems it's better this way!

Thanks a lot for all those replies, i really appreciate those first-hand-reports, meanings and recommendations!

Btw, i'm getting Tramadol and Tilidine per prescription, because i've some back- and nerve issues here and there, but even regarding this, i'm trying to keep usage as low as possible. So i'm both, a recreational user and one who sometimes really needs it.

 

[THCified]

As said, i may ever think i miss something here, but fuck it, i'll also miss heroin and a shitload of other nice things, but you can't do everything...

...needless to say i'm still interested in how this stuff is

 

[Whosajiggawaaa]

It's stimulating in lowish doses for me and quite noddy in very high doses - but not entirely forced noddy. It's not as subtle as codeine and tramadol where you sometimes have to look for the high, you'll feel it and you'll feel it strongly. As for the high it self, it's great! For someone who hasn't tried it I'd compare it to a good coke high in terms of intense euphoria minus the over the top stimulation, intense fiending, insomnia etc. It basically feels naturally stimulating in low doses and then fades into slight sedation.

All of that said, as someone said before - it's not worth trying, unless you've got an incredible amount of self control. The addiction and tolerance will creep up on you and as a bluelighter once said to me "punch you in the face".

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

IV'ed, compared to even decent H or something like hydromprh... It's a total yawn.

 

[twotoomany]

If you're playing with the "lighter" opes, and its doing it for ya, don't bother bumping up. It's not worth it and will only make things worse.,,

 

[THCified]

All of that said, as someone said before - it's not worth trying, unless you've got an incredible amount of self control. The addiction and tolerance will creep up on you and as a bluelighter once said to me "punch you in the face".

I know...

If you're playing with the "lighter" opes, and its doing it for ya, don't bother bumping up. It's not worth it and will only make things worse.,,

I know...

It's stimulating in lowish doses for me and quite noddy in very high doses - but not entirely forced noddy. It's not as subtle as codeine and tramadol where you sometimes have to look for the high, you'll feel it and you'll feel it strongly. As for the high it self, it's great! For someone who hasn't tried it I'd compare it to a good coke high in terms of intense euphoria minus the over the top stimulation, intense fiending, insomnia etc. It basically feels naturally stimulating in low doses and then fades into slight sedation.

But it's exactly glowing, positive stuff like that, which makes me crazy about how it is

At least, i'm good in controlling myself. But tbh and @twotoomany, i'm happy with Kratom (the lighter ope), i really love it over all synthetic stuff i've tried till now, i'm just curious about the oxycodone high. Don't get me wrong, Odt, Tramadol etc. are also nice, but to me, the naturals i've tried (Kratom and Poppy Pods) have the most interesting, satisfying effects.

Again, thanks for your replies and interest!

 

[THCified]

Is it possible to plug prolonged release tablets of OC, or is orally the same in terms of BA?

 

[salpairadice]

It may sound cliche but from the first oxycodone pill I bought I was pretty much in its clutches. Stick with kratom, I prefer it now as it's a good mix of stimulation and sedation (similar to oxy) but much cheaper and less compulsive or thought-consuming.