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Marmalade said:
erm, we were talking about corporate positions on the FTSE and financial sectors. Positions are defined job roles with very defined responsibilities with regard to power

You seem to be mixing that up with social human behaviour and relationships, which is of course very different.
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you think social human behaviour and relationships involve power? they don't.

being an employee is acceptance of subordination to a power structure.
 
ethylphendiate has pretty quickly managed to make some differences in my character hahah. better be careful with the stuff I think.
 
Ceres said:
you think social human behaviour and relationships involve power? they don't.

being an employee is acceptance of subordination to a power structure.
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social human behaviour can, and often does involve power play of a kind. to what degree depends on the individuals interacting. You've pretty much been accusing women of using this kind of power throughout the points you've been making. You personally might not behave in such a way, but lots of people of both sexes do imo.

I don't get your point about being an employee means accepting subordination to a power structure in relation to what I wrote previously. I don't disagree with that sentence really. My original point about that was as the level of power increases towards the roles at the top of the power structure, women hold disproportionally less of those roles (and therefore decision making power) compared with males. And that's a relevant and concerning factor. Not to you perhaps, since you're male
 
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Marmalade said:
My original point about that was as the level of power increases towards the roles at the top of the power structure, women hold disproportionally less of those roles (and therefore decision making power) compared with males. And that's a relevant and concerning factor. Not to you perhaps, since you're male
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Power and games revolving around power which are the fundamental nature of business don't care about gender, if women want to change it then they have to make that change happen, aggressively, which isn't easy when there is an already established power structure.

Take the politics for example, is the ruling party going to just step aside and say come on then, it's your turn to have a go at being at the top, to anyone who feels it's not fair they haven't held the reins yet? Of course not, because thats the nature of power.

If you want to play the power game, you can't complain about it not being fair, because it isn't - and this applies to all power structures regardless of scale or context. Naturally, the bigger the power structure, the harder it is to change.

My point of view is that the better decision to take is to opt out of such things as much as possible, if you want to be happy.
 
Ceres said:
ethylphendiate has pretty quickly managed to make some differences in my character hahah. better be careful with the stuff I think.
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How much have you used/have yet to go?

If you need some perspective I seem to be still in one piece after heavy ethylphenidate use earlier this year, but it did send me round the loop for a bit...Take care of your teeth btw, the stuff caused quite a bit of erosion in my own.
 
A WOMAN dubbed the Nymphomaniac of Munich because of her insatiable sexual appetite has been found dead.
Sex-crazed Antje Crapnik,47, could not say 'nein' to men and would prowl the German city's bars in search of romping partners.
The curvy blonde twice hit the headlines for imprisoning lovers and forcing them to repeatedly have sex with her.
She lured men back to her apartment wearing skin-tight dresses revealing her ample bosom and drenched in perfume.
One evening in April she met DJ Dieter Schultz and took him back to her flat where they had sex three times.
But that wasn't enough for Antje and when Schultz tried to leave she locked the door and hid the keys. He told police she forced him to have sex another five times.
When she finally fell asleep he dashed to the balcony and called the cops. He told them: "You have got to help me. She is trying to kill me with sex. I cannot get out and I cannot go in."
When police smashed down the door to get in she begged the officers for a threesome.

The treatment failed and a few days later she left a secure hospital to catch a bus back home - and picked up a 31-year-old man on the way.
When they got back to the flat she hid his phone, locked the door and subjected him to a 36-hour sex ordeal.

http://www.ibtimes.com/german-nymph...tim-after-first-claims-she-trying-kill-me-sex


you know I still live and hope,,,
 
"When she finally fell asleep he dashed to the balcony and called the cops. He told them: "You have got to help me. She is trying to kill me with sex. I cannot get out and I cannot go in."
When police smashed down the door to get in she begged the officers for a threesome."

=D=D=D
 
Ceres said:
My point of view is that the better decision to take is to opt out of such things as much as possible, if you want to be happy.
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Then we're in total agreement. Unfortunately, it's hard to opt out of earning a crust.

Ceres said:
Also, why is female emancipation guaged in what job they can get, what salary they can earn?
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It's not. At least not solely - that's only one measure, albeit one that has particularly profound implications given our society's worship of the accumulation of wealth and emphasis on material gain.

Out of interest, what other measures do you think should really be taken into account?

Ceres said:
If there is a glass ceiling preventing women in this country being all they can be, it's a psychological one in their own heads.
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Disagree, profoundly. But confusingly, you also seemed to acknowledge that the deck is indeed stacked against women:

Ceres said:
if women want to change it then they have to make that change happen, aggressively, which isn't easy when there is an already established power structure.
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Which seems kinda contradictory.

Ceres said:
having power boils down to how good you are at being a total cunt, male or female.
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If by 'power' you mean within the existing socioeconomic framework, then as much of a a generalisation as that is, I'm inclined to agree. But then that's part of what what feminism's about in the wider sense - rejecting the current socioeconomic framework (which reflects several centuries of disproportionate patriarchal influence) and replacing it with one that offers fewer rewards for being a 'total cunt'.

So it's not about women leapfrogging men on the ladder, so much as the ladder itself being dismantled. Seems a bit defeatist to just accept a society that rewards 'total cunts', no? Or indeed, to implicitly endorse that culture by claiming that women will have to "aggressively"pursue any progress.

But if I may, can we just return to the post which initially raised eyebrows?

Ceres said:
i think it's a refusal to grow up, getting inculcated with a sense of entitlement from an early age, growing up with the mistaken belief that being female is enough to get through life on etc etc, the average western woman is a psychological trainwreck.
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Please explain this 'false sense of entitlement' further, and maybe also why you single out western women as psychological trainwrecks? What could a 'western' woman learn from an 'eastern woman' for example?

Or even western men, whom I see you don't include in your statement? Just curious, not having a go. I can't discern the source of your apparent frustration with women in particular, see.

Anyway, Monday. Joy.
 
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SamhainGrim said:
Then we're in total agreement. Unfortunately, it's hard to opt out of earning a crust.



It's not. At least not solely - that's only one measure, albeit one that has particularly profound implications given our society's worship of the accumulation of wealth and emphasis on material gain.

Out of interest, what other measures do you think should really be taken into account?



Disagree, profoundly. But confusingly, you also seemed to acknowledge that the deck is indeed stacked against women:



Which seems kinda contradictory.



If by 'power' you mean within the existing socioeconomic framework, then as much of a a generalisation as that is, I'm inclined to agree. But then that's part of what what feminism's about in the wider sense - rejecting the current socioeconomic framework (which reflects several centuries of disproportionate patriarchal influence) and replacing it with one that offers fewer rewards for being a 'total cunt'.

So it's not about women leapfrogging men on the ladder, so much as the ladder itself being dismantled. Seems a bit defeatist to just accept a society that rewards 'total cunts', no? Or indeed, to implicitly endorse that culture by claiming that women will have to "aggressively"pursue any progress.

But if I may, can we just return to the post which initially raised eyebrows?



Please explain this 'false sense of entitlement' further, and maybe also why you single out western women as psychological trainwrecks? What could a 'western' woman learn from an 'eastern woman' for example?

Or even western men, whom I see you don't include in your statement? Just curious, not having a go. I can't discern the source of your apparent frustration with women in particular, see.

Anyway, Monday. Joy.
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i wish i could be as awake with as much time as this on early on a monday morning
 
pinkpapaver said:
they're talking about drug lgalisation...top news this morning in the headlines
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Will never happen, too many people make serious cash from the illegal trade.

Every few years this gets dragged up yet again in the News, 1 day people will learn the news is an illusion & they just run tag line stuff to fill up the air time.

Drugs are illegal, hence the average persons mindset can't begin to think about making them legal, kind of like a system1 way of thinking.
 
Albion said:
How much have you used/have yet to go?

If you need some perspective I seem to be still in one piece after heavy ethylphenidate use earlier this year, but it did send me round the loop for a bit...Take care of your teeth btw, the stuff caused quite a bit of erosion in my own.
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I've used 200mg over the course of a week, 20mg in the morning and another 20mg later in the afternoon. I'm quite impressed with how long it lasts, getting really engaged in what im working on seems to help sustain the effects somewhat.

Also impressed at the lack of gurn or susceptibility to getting distracted by porn that MDPV can be problematic with.

Really can't imagine taking large doses of it recreationally though!
 
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